If you take the LSAT under current rules, it's the score that must be reported to the ABA.
If you have a GRE and an LSAT only the LSAT is considered.
If you only have a GRE and No LSAT they take the GRE score.
I asked for clarification on this yesterday with Dave K and taking the GRE if youn already have an LSAT will do nothing for you.
Also see that a few of the schools saying they take the GRE have conditions beyond the no LSAT. Some require that you're applying to a Dual Enrollment program.
So if you haven't taken the LSAT, you could try to take the GRE first and see how you perform, correct? I'm wondering if since you can make a decision on whether or not to report your GRE score, that route might be ideal for individuals who are not too deep into LSAT prep yet. Whereas if you had taken the LSAT first, that score is automatically considered.
Ya and to piggyback off that for those of us who haven't taken a test yet - do you think a high GRE score will have the same "saving" effect as a high LSAT score? Like you know how a super high LSAT can trump your GPA significantly ... that's the effect I'm wondering about
@47064 said:
Wow, this is the school I am aiming for. Now my question is, the LSAT score determines potential scholarship money, will the GRE score determine that as well? ?
Yeah, there definitely seems to be a lot of question marks as of now. I assume that such scores will be considered in terms of percentile. But I also came across an article that quoted an admissions consultant, who reported that schools may not have to report GRE scores over a 3.87 GPA threshold under current guidelines.
Wow, this is the school I am aiming for. Now my question is, the LSAT score determines potential scholarship money, will the GRE score determine that as well? ?
If you take the LSAT under current rules, it's the score that must be reported to the ABA.
If you have a GRE and an LSAT only the LSAT is considered.
If you only have a GRE and No LSAT they take the GRE score.
I asked for clarification on this yesterday with Dave K and taking the GRE if youn already have an LSAT will do nothing for you.
Also see that a few of the schools saying they take the GRE have conditions beyond the no LSAT. Some require that you're applying to a Dual Enrollment program.
So if you haven't taken the LSAT, you could try to take the GRE first and see how you perform, correct? I'm wondering if since you can make a decision on whether or not to report your GRE score, that route might be ideal for individuals who are not too deep into LSAT prep yet. Whereas if you had taken the LSAT first, that score is automatically considered.
Ya and to piggyback off that for those of us who haven't taken a test yet - do you think a high GRE score will have the same "saving" effect as a high LSAT score? Like you know how a super high LSAT can trump your GPA significantly ... that's the effect I'm wondering about
I have a GRE score that expires in three days! I would never actually submit it because I only took it because it was required (the schools didn't actually care what your score was as long as it wasn't abysmal). Though that 5 on writing is looking pretty solid :-p
If you take the LSAT under current rules, it's the score that must be reported to the ABA.
If you have a GRE and an LSAT only the LSAT is considered.
If you only have a GRE and No LSAT they take the GRE score.
I asked for clarification on this yesterday with Dave K and taking the GRE if youn already have an LSAT will do nothing for you.
Also see that a few of the schools saying they take the GRE have conditions beyond the no LSAT. Some require that you're applying to a Dual Enrollment program.
So if you haven't taken the LSAT, you could try to take the GRE first and see how you perform, correct? I'm wondering if since you can make a decision on whether or not to report your GRE score, that route might be ideal for individuals who are not too deep into LSAT prep yet. Whereas if you had taken the LSAT first, that score is automatically considered.
If you take the LSAT under current rules, it's the score that must be reported to the ABA.
If you have a GRE and an LSAT only the LSAT is considered.
If you only have a GRE and No LSAT they take the GRE score.
I asked for clarification on this yesterday with Dave K and taking the GRE if youn already have an LSAT will do nothing for you.
Also see that a few of the schools saying they take the GRE have conditions beyond the no LSAT. Some require that you're applying to a Dual Enrollment program.
This is really useful to know. Thank you for sharing this!
If you take the LSAT under current rules, it's the score that must be reported to the ABA.
If you have a GRE and an LSAT only the LSAT is considered.
If you only have a GRE and No LSAT they take the GRE score.
I asked for clarification on this yesterday with Dave K and taking the GRE if youn already have an LSAT will do nothing for you.
Also see that a few of the schools saying they take the GRE have conditions beyond the no LSAT. Some require that you're applying to a Dual Enrollment program.
I've read a little bit about the GRE Score Choice policy, which allows candidates to select which schools to report their scores to. Thus, wouldn't individuals who have yet to sit for either the GRE or the LSAT, be able to take a GRE, see what they score, and then decide whether or not to even report it? Or, would these schools openly stating that they will consider all GRE/LSAT scores taken over the previous five years holistically, mean that students will be forced to report every score?
Is the GRE really that much easier than the LSAT? I am very, very bad at math .. I mean can't divide 10 and 2 bad ... I feel like even though the LSAT is intense, the questions come more naturally to me since there's zero math involved.
logic is kinda a type of math ;)
well, I know... but you know what I mean... like real math...
Is the GRE really that much easier than the LSAT? I am very, very bad at math .. I mean can't divide 10 and 2 bad ... I feel like even though the LSAT is intense, the questions come more naturally to me since there's zero math involved.
logic is kinda a type of math ;)
well, I know... but you know what I mean... like real math...
Is the GRE really that much easier than the LSAT? I am very, very bad at math .. I mean can't divide 10 and 2 bad ... I feel like even though the LSAT is intense, the questions come more naturally to me since there's zero math involved.
logic is kinda a type of math ;)
well, I know... but you know what I mean... like real math...
Is the GRE really that much easier than the LSAT? I am very, very bad at math .. I mean can't divide 10 and 2 bad ... I feel like even though the LSAT is intense, the questions come more naturally to me since there's zero math involved.
logic is kinda a type of math ;)
From my experience, no. It's not that much easier to score well on the GRE. IT really comes down to your skills. Many people stop taking math courses in undergrad and end up having to relearn all the math on the GRE. That sucks!
Is the GRE really that much easier than the LSAT? I am very, very bad at math .. I mean can't divide 10 and 2 bad ... I feel like even though the LSAT is intense, the questions come more naturally to me since there's zero math involved.
I'm with you - I'm struggling with the LSAT but no way am I doing math. I'd rather just not go to any school if math is a requirement!!
Yeah, I agree with the above posters. Accepting the GRE will get Harvard more applicants, for sure. But, where is it written that they will accept even one of these GRE applicants? It could really just be a way to goose yield as HLS slipped a notch.
I think they need to adjust the LSAT difficulty level comparable to that of GRE, if the latter is gonna be widely accepted which seems to be the trend. Otherwise I have a hard time seeing how the LSAT would/could persist.
Completely agree with @nicoleburdakin925 's assessment of the GRE.
The LSAT is just going to be taken more seriously, at least for the foreseeable future. Again, everyone who is in tears over this should just wait and actually see how many people and what types of stats they have are taking the GRE and gaining acceptance to law schools. I would venture to guess that they will have great GPAs and 90th%-tile+ GRE scores. I do tend to think the GRE is "easier" if you're decent at math. But I think it's just as hard to score in the higher percentiles, which is what you'll likely need to score if you want chance of admissions of a top school. I also think people are just looking for what's "easier" but the thing is if you're struggling with the LSAT I don't think you'll find the GRE that much easier...
The effects of these schools accepting the GRE will likely not make a difference for at least 3-5 years.
I think eventually it will be like the GMAT vs. GRE is right now for MBA programs. The GMAT is seen as more serious/reliable, but many schools take the GRE too.
Oh I'm taking the LSAT regardless, there is no turning back now. I never thought the GRE would be "a walk in the park" by any measure, nor have I ever uttered similar statements. I do however lean towards the "overall" difficulty levels of the two tests as not being completely objectively comparable to certain extent. Just based on the format/content of the tests, length of the reading, etc. (just the fact no LG, which is a completely new animal takes many folks months and months for that section alone) But then again, I don't really know much about the GRE so what do I know? You raised a good point with a good example between the GMAT and GRE, the reason I think it's a very good example is bc personally, I actually do believe the two tests are close enough to be comparable, but so far I'm not sure if I would go as far as saying the same thing between the LSAT and the GRE...
But your right, let's wait and see what the stats indicate eventually.
Is the GRE really that much easier than the LSAT? I am very, very bad at math .. I mean can't divide 10 and 2 bad ... I feel like even though the LSAT is intense, the questions come more naturally to me since there's zero math involved.
I think they need to adjust the LSAT difficulty level comparable to that of GRE, if the latter is gonna be widely accepted which seems to be the trend. Otherwise I have a hard time seeing how the LSAT would/could persist.
Completely agree with @nicoleburdakin925 's assessment of the GRE.
The LSAT is just going to be taken more seriously, at least for the foreseeable future. Again, everyone who is in tears over this should just wait and actually see how many people and what types of stats they have are taking the GRE and gaining acceptance to law schools. I would venture to guess that they will have great GPAs and 90th%-tile+ GRE scores. I do tend to think the GRE is "easier" if you're decent at math. But I think it's just as hard to score in the higher percentiles, which is what you'll likely need to score if you want chance of admissions of a top school. I also think people are just looking for what's "easier" but the thing is if you're struggling with the LSAT I don't think you'll find the GRE that much easier...
The effects of these schools accepting the GRE will likely not make a difference for at least 3-5 years.
I think eventually it will be like the GMAT vs. GRE is right now for MBA programs. The GMAT is seen as more serious/reliable, but many schools take the GRE too.
In the end, nothing has really changed since business schools take both. People who are serious about business schools take the GMAT. Those who take the GRE usually are just looking for something to do after they graduate.
Here's a thought which might lift some spirits. If we all know the LSAT is harder than the GRE, I bet law schools know the LSAT is harder than the GRE. If law schools know the LSAT is harder than the GRE they might give a good LSAT score a bump vs. a good GRE score, all things being equal. If all this is true, then I don't think we'd have necessarily wasted our time with the LSAT.
That assumes the law schools motivation is to obtain the most qualified candidates. If we assume instead that their goal is to raise their US News ranking then it will be how law schools believe that USNews will weigh the GRE against the LSAT which will mainly determine how the law schools will weigh the two.
The GRE is way easier than the LSAT.. I studied two months for it and got 335.. I haven't taken the LSAT yet maybe I should try my luck. Only thing that sucks is I want to go UMiami law ?
I took the GRE about 6 years ago, and here’s my thoughts re: difficulty, pros/cons.
The GRE is similar to but more difficult than the SAT, but only because the GRE is digital and recalculates based on how well you do on your first sections. If you ace the first English and math sections, you’ll receive very difficult second English and math sections. If you get this very hard second English section, it’s comparable to a hard LSAT RC section—not a walk in the park by any means. The GRE’s all on computer, and you can sign up to take it almost any time you want. You go in, you’re the only one taking the GRE usually, you leave your stuff in a locker, and you sit at a computer station with other people taking other sorts of tests in the same room. You don’t all start at the same time; you don’t all finish at the same time. The LSAT writing process is so highly ritualized that it’s very stressful... the GRE lacks all of that pomp and show.
The GRE is interesting because almost all graduate students end up taking it... math or physics PhDs, anthropology MAs, poetry MFAs, etc. So a lot of people tend to score highly in one section, particularly math since there are mathematicians taking a math test that doesn’t even have calculus on it.
Anecdotally, without studying, I was in the 90-92nd percentile on the GRE, and my LSAT diagnostic was 85th-ish percentile. I did well on the SAT, and I’m slightly better at math than RC, so maybe the GRE just plays to my strengths more than the LSAT.
Part of the difficulty of the LSAT for me is the sustained level of difficulty/intensity throughout the test. The first two sections on the GRE are only moderately difficult, and then if things are going well, you’ll get two actually hard sections. Alternatively, if things aren’t going well, you’ll get two soft-ball sections, realize you bombed the first two, cancel your score, and get on with your day. The LSAT is a whole other animal... you have no idea what section’s coming when, and it could all potentially be very hard. Then, you’re left with thoughts of canceling, speculation on the curve, etc., for weeks, whereas you get your GRE score before you leave the test site.
I think they need to adjust the LSAT difficulty level comparable to that of GRE, if the latter is gonna be widely accepted which seems to be the trend. Otherwise I have a hard time seeing how the LSAT would/could persist.
Here's a thought which might lift some spirits. If we all know the LSAT is harder than the GRE, I bet law schools know the LSAT is harder than the GRE. If law schools know the LSAT is harder than the GRE they might give a good LSAT score a bump vs. a good GRE score, all things being equal. If all this is true, then I don't think we'd have necessarily wasted our time with the LSAT.
who knows. I mean, I still feel like most of their admitted students will be based off of LSAT scores and not GRE scores. Idk, just an idea though.
Also, your post read like an LR inference question haha.. or no? or am I the only idiot who has let the LSAT consume them? I'm the only one? k cool, brb gonna apply to cooley because correlation DOES imply causation!!!!! sorry I'm just really bored.
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56 comments
damn, I hope none of this affects Canadian law schools :neutral:
@sorooshianh185 said:
@beyondsudi482 said:
@stepharizona288 said:
If you take the LSAT under current rules, it's the score that must be reported to the ABA.
If you have a GRE and an LSAT only the LSAT is considered.
If you only have a GRE and No LSAT they take the GRE score.
I asked for clarification on this yesterday with Dave K and taking the GRE if youn already have an LSAT will do nothing for you.
Also see that a few of the schools saying they take the GRE have conditions beyond the no LSAT. Some require that you're applying to a Dual Enrollment program.
So if you haven't taken the LSAT, you could try to take the GRE first and see how you perform, correct? I'm wondering if since you can make a decision on whether or not to report your GRE score, that route might be ideal for individuals who are not too deep into LSAT prep yet. Whereas if you had taken the LSAT first, that score is automatically considered.
Ya and to piggyback off that for those of us who haven't taken a test yet - do you think a high GRE score will have the same "saving" effect as a high LSAT score? Like you know how a super high LSAT can trump your GPA significantly ... that's the effect I'm wondering about
@47064 said:
Wow, this is the school I am aiming for. Now my question is, the LSAT score determines potential scholarship money, will the GRE score determine that as well? ?
Yeah, there definitely seems to be a lot of question marks as of now. I assume that such scores will be considered in terms of percentile. But I also came across an article that quoted an admissions consultant, who reported that schools may not have to report GRE scores over a 3.87 GPA threshold under current guidelines.
https://gre.economist.com/gre-advice/graduate-school-admissions/which-exam-take/gre-vs-lsat-which-exam-should-you-apply-harvard-law
Wow, this is the school I am aiming for. Now my question is, the LSAT score determines potential scholarship money, will the GRE score determine that as well? ?
@beyondsudi482 said:
@stepharizona288 said:
If you take the LSAT under current rules, it's the score that must be reported to the ABA.
If you have a GRE and an LSAT only the LSAT is considered.
If you only have a GRE and No LSAT they take the GRE score.
I asked for clarification on this yesterday with Dave K and taking the GRE if youn already have an LSAT will do nothing for you.
Also see that a few of the schools saying they take the GRE have conditions beyond the no LSAT. Some require that you're applying to a Dual Enrollment program.
So if you haven't taken the LSAT, you could try to take the GRE first and see how you perform, correct? I'm wondering if since you can make a decision on whether or not to report your GRE score, that route might be ideal for individuals who are not too deep into LSAT prep yet. Whereas if you had taken the LSAT first, that score is automatically considered.
Ya and to piggyback off that for those of us who haven't taken a test yet - do you think a high GRE score will have the same "saving" effect as a high LSAT score? Like you know how a super high LSAT can trump your GPA significantly ... that's the effect I'm wondering about
I have a GRE score that expires in three days! I would never actually submit it because I only took it because it was required (the schools didn't actually care what your score was as long as it wasn't abysmal). Though that 5 on writing is looking pretty solid :-p
@stepharizona288 said:
If you take the LSAT under current rules, it's the score that must be reported to the ABA.
If you have a GRE and an LSAT only the LSAT is considered.
If you only have a GRE and No LSAT they take the GRE score.
I asked for clarification on this yesterday with Dave K and taking the GRE if youn already have an LSAT will do nothing for you.
Also see that a few of the schools saying they take the GRE have conditions beyond the no LSAT. Some require that you're applying to a Dual Enrollment program.
So if you haven't taken the LSAT, you could try to take the GRE first and see how you perform, correct? I'm wondering if since you can make a decision on whether or not to report your GRE score, that route might be ideal for individuals who are not too deep into LSAT prep yet. Whereas if you had taken the LSAT first, that score is automatically considered.
@stepharizona288 said:
If you take the LSAT under current rules, it's the score that must be reported to the ABA.
If you have a GRE and an LSAT only the LSAT is considered.
If you only have a GRE and No LSAT they take the GRE score.
I asked for clarification on this yesterday with Dave K and taking the GRE if youn already have an LSAT will do nothing for you.
Also see that a few of the schools saying they take the GRE have conditions beyond the no LSAT. Some require that you're applying to a Dual Enrollment program.
This is really useful to know. Thank you for sharing this!
If you take the LSAT under current rules, it's the score that must be reported to the ABA.
If you have a GRE and an LSAT only the LSAT is considered.
If you only have a GRE and No LSAT they take the GRE score.
I asked for clarification on this yesterday with Dave K and taking the GRE if youn already have an LSAT will do nothing for you.
Also see that a few of the schools saying they take the GRE have conditions beyond the no LSAT. Some require that you're applying to a Dual Enrollment program.
I've read a little bit about the GRE Score Choice policy, which allows candidates to select which schools to report their scores to. Thus, wouldn't individuals who have yet to sit for either the GRE or the LSAT, be able to take a GRE, see what they score, and then decide whether or not to even report it? Or, would these schools openly stating that they will consider all GRE/LSAT scores taken over the previous five years holistically, mean that students will be forced to report every score?
https://www.ets.org/gre/revised_general/about/scoreselect/
@gregoryalexanderdevine723 said:
@tanes25413 said:
@gregoryalexanderdevine723 said:
@tristandesinor505 said:
Is the GRE really that much easier than the LSAT? I am very, very bad at math .. I mean can't divide 10 and 2 bad ... I feel like even though the LSAT is intense, the questions come more naturally to me since there's zero math involved.
logic is kinda a type of math ;)
well, I know... but you know what I mean... like real math...
Yeah, just busting your chops, lol.
Ha!
@tanes25413 said:
@gregoryalexanderdevine723 said:
@tristandesinor505 said:
Is the GRE really that much easier than the LSAT? I am very, very bad at math .. I mean can't divide 10 and 2 bad ... I feel like even though the LSAT is intense, the questions come more naturally to me since there's zero math involved.
logic is kinda a type of math ;)
well, I know... but you know what I mean... like real math...
Yeah, just busting your chops, lol.
@gregoryalexanderdevine723 said:
@tristandesinor505 said:
Is the GRE really that much easier than the LSAT? I am very, very bad at math .. I mean can't divide 10 and 2 bad ... I feel like even though the LSAT is intense, the questions come more naturally to me since there's zero math involved.
logic is kinda a type of math ;)
well, I know... but you know what I mean... like real math...
@tristandesinor505 said:
Is the GRE really that much easier than the LSAT? I am very, very bad at math .. I mean can't divide 10 and 2 bad ... I feel like even though the LSAT is intense, the questions come more naturally to me since there's zero math involved.
logic is kinda a type of math ;)
From my experience, no. It's not that much easier to score well on the GRE. IT really comes down to your skills. Many people stop taking math courses in undergrad and end up having to relearn all the math on the GRE. That sucks!
@tristandesinor505 said:
Is the GRE really that much easier than the LSAT? I am very, very bad at math .. I mean can't divide 10 and 2 bad ... I feel like even though the LSAT is intense, the questions come more naturally to me since there's zero math involved.
I'm with you - I'm struggling with the LSAT but no way am I doing math. I'd rather just not go to any school if math is a requirement!!
Yeah, I agree with the above posters. Accepting the GRE will get Harvard more applicants, for sure. But, where is it written that they will accept even one of these GRE applicants? It could really just be a way to goose yield as HLS slipped a notch.
@gregoryalexanderdevine723 said:
@stepharizona288 said:
I think they need to adjust the LSAT difficulty level comparable to that of GRE, if the latter is gonna be widely accepted which seems to be the trend. Otherwise I have a hard time seeing how the LSAT would/could persist.
Completely agree with @nicoleburdakin925 's assessment of the GRE.
The LSAT is just going to be taken more seriously, at least for the foreseeable future. Again, everyone who is in tears over this should just wait and actually see how many people and what types of stats they have are taking the GRE and gaining acceptance to law schools. I would venture to guess that they will have great GPAs and 90th%-tile+ GRE scores. I do tend to think the GRE is "easier" if you're decent at math. But I think it's just as hard to score in the higher percentiles, which is what you'll likely need to score if you want chance of admissions of a top school. I also think people are just looking for what's "easier" but the thing is if you're struggling with the LSAT I don't think you'll find the GRE that much easier...
The effects of these schools accepting the GRE will likely not make a difference for at least 3-5 years.
I think eventually it will be like the GMAT vs. GRE is right now for MBA programs. The GMAT is seen as more serious/reliable, but many schools take the GRE too.
Oh I'm taking the LSAT regardless, there is no turning back now. I never thought the GRE would be "a walk in the park" by any measure, nor have I ever uttered similar statements. I do however lean towards the "overall" difficulty levels of the two tests as not being completely objectively comparable to certain extent. Just based on the format/content of the tests, length of the reading, etc. (just the fact no LG, which is a completely new animal takes many folks months and months for that section alone) But then again, I don't really know much about the GRE so what do I know? You raised a good point with a good example between the GMAT and GRE, the reason I think it's a very good example is bc personally, I actually do believe the two tests are close enough to be comparable, but so far I'm not sure if I would go as far as saying the same thing between the LSAT and the GRE...
But your right, let's wait and see what the stats indicate eventually.
Is the GRE really that much easier than the LSAT? I am very, very bad at math .. I mean can't divide 10 and 2 bad ... I feel like even though the LSAT is intense, the questions come more naturally to me since there's zero math involved.
@stepharizona288 said:
I think they need to adjust the LSAT difficulty level comparable to that of GRE, if the latter is gonna be widely accepted which seems to be the trend. Otherwise I have a hard time seeing how the LSAT would/could persist.
Completely agree with @nicoleburdakin925 's assessment of the GRE.
The LSAT is just going to be taken more seriously, at least for the foreseeable future. Again, everyone who is in tears over this should just wait and actually see how many people and what types of stats they have are taking the GRE and gaining acceptance to law schools. I would venture to guess that they will have great GPAs and 90th%-tile+ GRE scores. I do tend to think the GRE is "easier" if you're decent at math. But I think it's just as hard to score in the higher percentiles, which is what you'll likely need to score if you want chance of admissions of a top school. I also think people are just looking for what's "easier" but the thing is if you're struggling with the LSAT I don't think you'll find the GRE that much easier...
The effects of these schools accepting the GRE will likely not make a difference for at least 3-5 years.
I think eventually it will be like the GMAT vs. GRE is right now for MBA programs. The GMAT is seen as more serious/reliable, but many schools take the GRE too.
In the end, nothing has really changed since business schools take both. People who are serious about business schools take the GMAT. Those who take the GRE usually are just looking for something to do after they graduate.
@tristandesinor505 said:
Here's a thought which might lift some spirits. If we all know the LSAT is harder than the GRE, I bet law schools know the LSAT is harder than the GRE. If law schools know the LSAT is harder than the GRE they might give a good LSAT score a bump vs. a good GRE score, all things being equal. If all this is true, then I don't think we'd have necessarily wasted our time with the LSAT.
That assumes the law schools motivation is to obtain the most qualified candidates. If we assume instead that their goal is to raise their US News ranking then it will be how law schools believe that USNews will weigh the GRE against the LSAT which will mainly determine how the law schools will weigh the two.
@tanes25413 said:
@tristandesinor505 said:
@pcainti665 said:
Alright fine. I'll take the damn GRE....STUPID DREAMS THAT SEEM UNREACHABLE
https://media.giphy.com/media/22CEvbj04nLLq/giphy.gif
oh look @pcainti665 found live footage of me screaming at my desk ...
WHY IS THIS HAPPENING! :( :( :( Everytime I see another school accepting the GRE I feel like I'm wasting my time with the LSAT *sobs uncontrollably
All I saw was "sobs" and I was like, ooh, she's mad! Lol I kept reading though. All's well! LMAO
Hahahaha!! Lol!
The GRE is way easier than the LSAT.. I studied two months for it and got 335.. I haven't taken the LSAT yet maybe I should try my luck. Only thing that sucks is I want to go UMiami law ?
I took the GRE about 6 years ago, and here’s my thoughts re: difficulty, pros/cons.
The GRE is similar to but more difficult than the SAT, but only because the GRE is digital and recalculates based on how well you do on your first sections. If you ace the first English and math sections, you’ll receive very difficult second English and math sections. If you get this very hard second English section, it’s comparable to a hard LSAT RC section—not a walk in the park by any means. The GRE’s all on computer, and you can sign up to take it almost any time you want. You go in, you’re the only one taking the GRE usually, you leave your stuff in a locker, and you sit at a computer station with other people taking other sorts of tests in the same room. You don’t all start at the same time; you don’t all finish at the same time. The LSAT writing process is so highly ritualized that it’s very stressful... the GRE lacks all of that pomp and show.
The GRE is interesting because almost all graduate students end up taking it... math or physics PhDs, anthropology MAs, poetry MFAs, etc. So a lot of people tend to score highly in one section, particularly math since there are mathematicians taking a math test that doesn’t even have calculus on it.
Anecdotally, without studying, I was in the 90-92nd percentile on the GRE, and my LSAT diagnostic was 85th-ish percentile. I did well on the SAT, and I’m slightly better at math than RC, so maybe the GRE just plays to my strengths more than the LSAT.
Part of the difficulty of the LSAT for me is the sustained level of difficulty/intensity throughout the test. The first two sections on the GRE are only moderately difficult, and then if things are going well, you’ll get two actually hard sections. Alternatively, if things aren’t going well, you’ll get two soft-ball sections, realize you bombed the first two, cancel your score, and get on with your day. The LSAT is a whole other animal... you have no idea what section’s coming when, and it could all potentially be very hard. Then, you’re left with thoughts of canceling, speculation on the curve, etc., for weeks, whereas you get your GRE score before you leave the test site.
@tristandesinor505 said:
@pcainti665 said:
Alright fine. I'll take the damn GRE....STUPID DREAMS THAT SEEM UNREACHABLE
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oh look @pcainti665 found live footage of me screaming at my desk ...
WHY IS THIS HAPPENING! :( :( :( Everytime I see another school accepting the GRE I feel like I'm wasting my time with the LSAT *sobs uncontrollably
All I saw was "sobs" and I was like, ooh, she's mad! Lol I kept reading though. All's well! LMAO
I think they need to adjust the LSAT difficulty level comparable to that of GRE, if the latter is gonna be widely accepted which seems to be the trend. Otherwise I have a hard time seeing how the LSAT would/could persist.
@tristandesinor505 said:
Here's a thought which might lift some spirits. If we all know the LSAT is harder than the GRE, I bet law schools know the LSAT is harder than the GRE. If law schools know the LSAT is harder than the GRE they might give a good LSAT score a bump vs. a good GRE score, all things being equal. If all this is true, then I don't think we'd have necessarily wasted our time with the LSAT.
who knows. I mean, I still feel like most of their admitted students will be based off of LSAT scores and not GRE scores. Idk, just an idea though.
Also, your post read like an LR inference question haha.. or no? or am I the only idiot who has let the LSAT consume them? I'm the only one? k cool, brb gonna apply to cooley because correlation DOES imply causation!!!!! sorry I'm just really bored.