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@ , thank you for your response. I have only been studying for a little over a month, and wanted to get a baseline score on the July or August test. I am not sure of my strongest points right now, as I only took one diagnostic and got a 140 and have been going through the Core Curriculum, but I thought it may be a good idea to stick to a flex first since all three sections are weighted equally. What are your thoughts on that?

There's really no value to getting a baseline score. Even though schools focus on your highest score, it's always better to do well on your first LSAT. Taking the LSAT and waiting on your score can be an emotionally taxing process, so I don't think many people would recommend voluntarily subjecting yourself to unnecessary official takes. You should not sit for a real LSAT until you're confident that you're ready to do well. One month is probably not going to cut it for most people. You should probably finish the Core Curriculum and then spend 2-3 months drilling and taking practice tests before you sit for the LSAT.

Unfortunately I don't think they're planning to make this an option (probably under the assumption there might only end up being 1-2 LSAT Flex tests).

I've had the exact same problem with sleeping before the LSAT, and I've really not found anything that works for it. I haven't sat for the LSAT since last July. I got a 165 and decided to probably just stick with that score, partially because I've dealt with the same issues you have, but although my cycle has gone well I do wonder how much another 2-5 points would've helped me, and whether I may miss out on going to a T14/T20 due to it. I seemed to be moving into a new score range right around last fall, but I also felt burnout coming on and worried not sleeping would keep me from really getting to that next level. I imagine we both have the sense that if we were able to take the LSAT on 7-8 hours' worth of sleep, we could do a lot better. I definitely left the test center in July knowing that I did well, but wondering nonetheless if some of the little mistakes and problems I had would've occurred had I slept well (e.g. didn't do a LG the way I should've, took longer to finish LR sections than I normally would've, etc., all of which might have been attributable to fatigue).

That being said, even as it can be frustrating to not sleep before the LSAT, I think a lot of it may actually just be somewhat in our heads. My score on the July LSAT was not unpredictable; it was largely in line with my practice sections and PTs. I'm not sure that not getting any sleep before the LSAT plays as much of a role as we might think it does at first glance. That is one reason why I may retake again to try to get off of waitlists/improve my scholarships. While I do think sleeping well would help both of us, I'm also not sure I buy into the notion that it is necessarily as detrimental as we might initially feel inclined to think it is.

If you're able to answer this, are you guys - and other companies - still going to be paying LSAC fees for using their content then? So now they're getting fees for content from students and test-prep companies? Wow.

Bump.

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Unfortunately, our policy has changed, and currently we can't explain any further (although, we may be able to disclose more come February).

Any updates on this?

This news actually surprised me, as I figured 7Sage would make more money in light of their invaluable LG videos being taken down from YouTube. If pirating is at play and has brought down their expected sales, or they're having to litigate to try to keep their videos from being distributed, or are being charged burdensome fees by LSAC for allowing their users to use the explanation videos, that could explain this. (Not that that will make anyone feel that much better, but those are just some possible explanations.)

You have a limited number of years to live and the degrees aren't terribly complementary. Not to mention the fact you won't be bringing in income while you're in school. Both fields require serious expertise; it's not exactly easy to keep up on the subject matter, and it's sort of a use-it-or-lose-it situation. If you're 19-20 you might still have the energy for pursuing both in theory, but as you age you'll likely become less enthusiastic about the idea. Outside of health law, there's really nothing that you're going to gain, if you'd even gain much there. It'd probably be better to just pick whichever one is a better fit for you. Do some shadowing and make a decision.

Sounds like burnout. Do everything you can to relax the next two days and go in fresh on Monday. You might even go out and do something fun just to relax and avoid worrying. Clearly you're ready.

Go to Resources, then Problem Sets/QBank. Create a problem set using PT 88 LG. If you want to take the section multiple times just click on the section in your problem sets and hit the "+" icon in the bottom left once it pops up.

Hi Hannah, is there a neither option? I would advise against rushing this process. You just took a diagnostic. Just because you diagnosed in the 140s doesn't mean you can't do well. Many have started there - myself included - and then ended up in the 160s or 170s after putting in the time and hard work required. Even taking it in January only gives you a few months to prepare. Maybe you should consider waiting a year to apply. It is getting kind of late for someone to just be starting their prep for this cycle.

A higher score will make up for applying later, in my opinion.

I also took most of the pre-reqs and did well enough in them, as you clearly also did with that GPA. I decided against medicine after shadowing some doctors. I think I made the right decision for me personally, but I'm not sure you can ever really "know." Feel free to PM me to discuss this. For what it's worth, though, I think either one is going to be stressful, and that if someone's going to pursue medicine, they really, really need to have a passion for it. While you're currently - this could change possibly with a single-payer healthcare system - guaranteed (provided you make it through med school, residency, etc.) a six-figure income, that comes with debt and long hours usually. That's not to mention the amount of delayed gratification relative to law. But any career that (sometimes) pays a lot is going to come with its ups and downs for the most part. CEOs work a ton, have a lot of responsibilities, etc. You have to find the best fit for you.

One option someone mentioned is adding a section as a problem set and then navigating to it and doing it before or after your PT.

Search the discussions for a tracker. I'm pretty sure numerous trackers have been posted for LG in the past. I'm still working on LG, but just from foolproofing the LG Bundle a second time - the second time more closely adhering to something similar to what Pacifico (search his LG thread)/JY/etc. recommend - I improved my score by 5 points. I improved some in RC, too, but I think working on LG made a big difference.

In my understanding the personal statement needn't address your reason for pursuing law school. It could just help give adcoms more insight into you as a person/your background.

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Keep the 165 and apply or keep and retake just don’t cancel that score.

This. I'm in the same awkward position of having a 165 and am keeping it. I hit 'keep' very fast. (:

OP I would aim for November perhaps, given how busy you'll be with school + work. Prioritize your grades, but 1 PT per week + review and some timed sections during the week to stay fresh might be a good approach. Of course, you could apply next year. Law schools aren't going anywhere. But you might as well keep studying and go ahead and get your goal score.

Check out the following thread, though, which was made by someone whose weekly schedule was similar to yours: https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/14336/here-was-my-study-schedule-for-my-20-point-increased

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@ Ah got it, thank you so much!

No problem - and it's smart to start studying again now instead of waiting on your July score! That way you're making some progress either way.

I first did the whole bundle (PT 1-35 LG) in what was probably an insufficiently repetitive manner hoping it'd be enough. Eventually, I decided to go back and do the whole bundle over again - this time making sure to -0 the game in the recommended time and then do it again after roughly a week (it probably wasn't always precisely a week later, but I'd redo a game 5-9 days again after having completed it on time without missing any questions). Only after using that process with the whole bundle did I start to feel good about my LG skills. I did this for July's test and the LG section from July seemed fairly easy - the only mistake I made was not splitting up a game I should've definitely thought to split up into SGBs. I'm still going back through and repeating some games from the bundle now in preparation for either September or October, just to stay fresh and on top of things. You can't be too good at LG - it's really the key to top scores I think.

It sounds to me like you might be trying to force the September test, just judging by your current scores relative to your goal. If you're struggling to finish LG sections on time consistently, I would really, really recommend foolproofing the entire LG Bundle (PT 1-35 LG) strictly using the method recommended by JY. Some people have went through it all twice. Don't stop redoing a game until you're comfortably doing it in the recommended time and not missing a question on it. It's painful, but it helps. Do this before you do any more PTs. I would do timed sections of LR from the 40s and save recent PTs for practice tests. Use those sections to work on timing and figuring out your weaker areas. Then go into the CC and do problem sets of the problem types with which you're struggling after reviewing any areas from the curriculum you feel you might need to brush up on. The November test might be a good one to plan on taking. Best of luck.

Go to that test in your analytics; there should be an option for deleting that preptest's data. You should then be able to take it digitally.

I would say take it because it's sort of a low-risk test. Just see it as a worthwhile gamble, and don't get too emotionally attached to the outcome. PT 87 shows you only 2 points away from your minimum goal. Only avoid the July test if you're afraid that you emotionally won't be to handle taking it and then potentially starting prep back up for October. If you think you can show up and take it without getting too emotionally invested in whether you're going to hit your goal on July's test, go for it. I have, actually, a really similar history with the test to yours - just with fewer cancels - and I took July as a bit of a "gamble" since it's the last test that doesn't count toward a lifetime takes limit and there's the option to retake for free. I have no idea what my score's going to be due to the LR section with 26 questions being apparently real when I figured it was experimental, but I'm probably going to be starting prep for September or October here soon.

It might be good to sign up for it and just go ahead and take it then so that you don't lose momentum. But you could also take the October administration without necessarily being considered late.