Improve your LSAT. Your GPA sounds like it is already locked in, so there's no improving that but a high LSAT can easily outweigh a lower GPA. I was on the opposite end of the spectrum and had a high GPA and lower LSAT score but I still got into 6/10 schools I applied. The 4 I didn't get into were definitely reaches for me but I still gave it a shot. Just finished my first year of 1L yesterday so do not be discouraged! You go this.

I didn't even come close to completing the core curriculum. If you have time, i would recommend it, but i think you'll figure out your strengths and weaknesses fairly soon.

Wow first of all that is awesome, congrats! Absolutely update them on this. I would make a document regarding the Journal and a link/file to it. Just give them a brief synopsis of what it is and ask for it to be added to your file! Especially right now, as decisions are getting finalize, everything helps.

A school's ranking does not determine your success. It's honestly sad that most people are conditioned to believe that. Not everyone is going to Harvard or Yale, nor does everyone want to. Yes, going to a T-14 would help you tremendously in getting a job and getting ahead, but there is more to a person than where they got their law degree. If you plan on living in a big city with a highly competitive and diluted market, then i would say go big or go home. But other than that you can be as successful as you want to be. If you don't know how to talk and connect to people that degree is worth as much as a piece of paper. Personally, I think if you're stuck on rankings you need to take a step back and determine if you really want to be a lawyer. I have always wanted to be a lawyer, so no matter what school i attend i know i control my own success. Whether i went to the best or worst law school, i always knew that i wanted to go. If you feel the same way as me, then don't let a ranking deter you from achieving what you want to!

I definitely think that taking it completely cold you don't need to panic. You will improve dramatically your next several PTs as you get through the core curriculum. I think you should gauge yourself in July and see where you are then. If you aren't consistently scoring mid 150s at that point, I wouldn't rush to take it in August. It's unlikely you will improve that much more by the August test. I tried to cram my last month of studying and it ended up hurting me. But, if you are planning to apply early in the cycle and you aren't that much below 160, i would take it. In my opinion, a score that is a few points less but applied earlier in the cycle is better than waiting another few months. It really all depends where you want to go, as well as how your GPA and LSAT compare. I think you can even pay to have a score preview and cancel it if you want. Last thing, don't get disheartened!! You have not studied one minute for this test yet. It is not an easy test! It was the most complex test i and most other law school applicants have ever taken. It's not like the ACT or graduation tests. You cannot study the content of this test, you are mastering skills over content! Completely different way of thinking. You shouldn't know any of this stuff yet so i promise do not be discouraged. You will be fine. It took me about 6 weeks of studying before I saw any breakthrough. You just need to stay dedicated and structured in your studying and as long as you follow the 7Sage curriculum you WILL improve by a lot. Best of luck to you!

This may sound really strange but try and take it at the same time of day that you typically study. A lot of people have said this helps because your brain is in that LSAT routine. Who knows if it's true. I took mine in the morning and i typically studied in the morning as well. Try and do around 8:30-9:30 to give your brain time to wake up. Either way, best of luck!

I applied to 10 schools in September. I got an acceptance within 1 week, but didn't get another until almost 2 months later. In late October/early November I got 3 more acceptances and 4 WL. I got rejected at 2 schools both in January. I think most cycles are delayed and why i got waitlisted, because i got waitlisted at some schools that were really supposed to be safeties. Very strange cycle from what i have heard and lots more applicants than usual because many people deferred from last year.

Congrats on getting it done!

It is such an awesome feeling i know. You are going to experience ups and downs and anxiety until your score is released. That is just the way it is. The two weeks i had to wait for my score felt like an eternity. But just understand it is done and nothing can be done now to change that for better or worse. Getting through this test is enough to celebrate. Do something fun/relaxing to celebrate. Honestly, if you have the time/money go on a little weekend trip or something. I just got home from Boston and if you have never been and love history, it's for you. Go golf, go to an amusement park, hike, etc. If you are working right now, ask to work more. The absolute worst thing you can do is sit around and think about it, trust me lol. Stay busy for the next 2 weeks. Score release day i have no doubt you will be anxiously refreshing your computer every 5 seconds to see if the scores are posted. Save all your anxiety for that moment. Don't let it consume you the next few weeks because there is nothing you can do. Celebrate that you don't have to sit around for hours and study for this test for atleast 2 weeks, hopefully forever! If you are confident in how you performed and got through the test, then there is nothing to worry about. I am sure you did well. Also, don't think of numbers in your head or be like me and try to guess how many you got right on each section and calculate a score. It won't be right and just makes your anxiety worse.

Seriously, congrats on getting through it. The hours and hours spent studying will pay off. Celebrate yourself. Hopefully your family knows what a big deal this is for you, your friends probably won't unless they are studying for it too. Maybe tell them and go out for a drink or something. If you want anymore advice or anything definitely feel free to message me!

I believe in the LSAT flex introduction they tell you that if someone interrupts you then you can address them and tell them to please be quiet or to leave the room. The proctors who did the flex for me were a joke. I think they have recordings of your camera/mic and since they are monitoring many students, they probably have software that tells them if someone talked or something. That might be why they didn't ask you until after the break. Numerous times my guy left his mic on and i could hear rustling and stuff in the background while trying to do my reading section... not only that i actually got kicked out of the section twice in the first 5 minutes. I'm sure that section hurt my score. I was so frustrated. I also was not able to cancel my score so i had to get through it. After the test, i felt awful even though i felt i did very well on LR and LG. I was pretty mad afterwards and said i wasn't gonna take the LSAT again until it was in person. Luckily I scored about my average and I wasn't gonna risk another horrible experience and give LSAC more $ so i just decided to stick with that and move on.

Yes i can look at it for you!

I have heard many people really like the flex. I am the percent of people who it hurt. My score was significantly lower on the flex than all my standard practice tests. Pretty disappointing.

No. Deposit just saves your seat in that school. Not binding whatsoever. If you have multiple deposits down and make a final decision, be sure to tell the other schools immediately so they have time to fill your seat.

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All I can say is I am very shocked. I applied to all my schools back in September, right when apps opened. I pretty much got into the schools I thought and was waitlisted at the reaches and rejected at a super reach. Except one school that I had as a safety. The 7Sage predictor had me at a 99% chance for admittance. I was first offered a waitlist spot just a week after I originally applied- which I found strange. My GPA was over .5 higher than their 75th percentile and my LSAT was at the 50th. I hadn't heard back from them so I emailed last week and sent them updated grades. I told them I was already accepted into several schools and that I was very interested still. I was really hoping for a big scholarship offer. Disclaimer: I have already decided where I'm going with a deposit but always want to keep opportunities opened. They emailed back and said they would review my application if I wanted. Ummm duh I want you to review it, why do I have to email to have that done? At this point I was pretty pissed off and decided it wouldn't work anyways. They told me I would have a decision in 2-3 days. 8 days later, I get an email that a final decision was rendered...I got rejected. I almost laughed out loud. Out of every school I applied to, this was pretty much my lowest safety. I am in no way mad, because in reality I was not going to go there unless they were giving me a full ride and a Tesla. Does anyone else find this scenario strange? Not just the decision rendered but the way admissions handled everything? I've checked Law School Data and based on the admitted students on there, I would have the highest GPA and top 8 LSAT. There is nothing weird or red flags on my application. Could they just be yield protecting since they knew I got into much better schools? Any insight would be nice.

They must have determined that you wouldn't get anything out of an acceptance. I think @ has the right advice for you, here. I encourage you to be grateful that the cycle went well. I wouldn't presume that a given admissions committee should definitely admit me, no matter how low they may be on my personal list.

Yes you are right. I just was frustrated because originally that school was high on my list but it slowly fell as i never got a decision until now. No big deal, just wanted to share my experience with everyone. I am so blessed and grateful for my offers and look forward to starting my law career!

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Overall, how accurate would you say the 7sage Law School Predictor is?

Well for the most part pretty accurate. Except for this one school i have been talking about. Every school i had over an 70% chance (3) i got in. I got in another school with a 60% chance and got waitlisted at 64% and 40%. Denied at a school with 65% and 20% and 99%. Take my results with a grain of salt, I am a reverse splitter. Only one i was pretty shocked about was the 99%. I think this cycle, the predictor was quite different because this cycle seems to be much more competitive.

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If you are at their 50th LSAT percentile, I would hardly call it a safety, especially not in this cycle. Also, YP would explain the WL, but not the subsequent rejection. I apologize if this sounds mean, but this post comes off as very entitled. Is there any chance you took that tone when communicating with their adcom?

Sorry, didn't mean to sound entitled at all, did not want to come off that way. I am just frustrated. This cycle has been crazy. And no i did not have any sort of tone when i emailed them. I just sent them a LOCI and updated grades and said i was very interested still. I was just basing this off the 99% chances 7Sage said i had which would make it a safety. and thought it was strange that i got rejected. Yeah LSAT at the 50th isn't a gimme by any means but i just feel like this school never even considered my application. I had been communicating with this school before i even applied. I think my level of interest was pretty obvious and they told me they looked forward to my application (they already knew my GPA and LSAT). I don't know, just needed to vent my stress some. I am in no way entitled, I am so grateful for the offers i was given.

Thanks guys. Makes sense. They definitely knew what i was thinking but i'm not sure how lol. Kind of an insult they didn't consider me at the beginning of the cycle. It is definitely a school that if i would have gotten a decent offer, I would have atleast went on a visit with an open mind. Seems like yield protecting just deters solid candidates, but whatever they want to do.

I think that some people can naturally think in the LSAT way better, but the test taking skills can definitely be acquired. If you have the time and money to spare, you can learn the test and score high.

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Hello I am in the same situation. I help my father out a lot with his business and live at home with another sibling that is in college (going to med school, bit of a friendly rivalry). The cooking and laundry and 35K saved a year is probably first years salary or more. I made it clear to my parent that I need space and time to complete my studies(when I was in grad school). Also my parents respect that I am an adult and give me lots of freedom within the house. What I mean is when I would give them an advance like I'm going to be home at 2am and leave at 5am(Masters in Economics has you do that for finals week) they would understand and it would not come as a surprise. The only time I would have a problem is when I would not respect and understand that it is my parents house and not my apartment. I would make them aware of my schedule and give them a heads up on what I would be coming home or not coming home ect. Plus I would help with chores when I had time and my father with his business (amazing how some sweat breaking labor can clear the mind). I liked to think of the arrangement as a mutually beneficial. My parents get to see me more and get some help around the house and I get food, laundry, quite sleeping place and save 40-60k in housing plus expenses. Me living at home just required a little more planning and communicating on my part but for 60K I can do a lot of planning and communicating for that. Yes I got all the work done I needed at the library and I spent more time at the library and school than at my parents house. I can be done and I think it would be worth it to save that type of money, plus if you ever forgot anything important I'm sure someone in the house would run it to you ( I forgot a tie for a important interview UGH). Biggest thing for me was communication and that solved 99% of everything. I did not know what grad school was going to expect from me, I had an idea, but was not certain and I let my parents know that 'this is what I expect it to be like but I am not certain because I obviously have not experienced it yet. I think it'd be an overall positive, but if it requires you find an apartment in the spring then so be it.

Thanks for that perspective, that is much of my mindset. I think the positives far outweigh the negatives. I do think being at home is mutually beneficial for me and my family. I also think it would keep me from being lonely from hours of studying and work. I actually want to help coach my little brother's football team so i hope to be able to do something like that to keep my mind clear for a few hours a day.

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As someone who had to move back home and deals with working from home (teaching) with my parents and siblings being home almost 24/7, I think you can definitely make it work. It helped me a lot to set clear boundaries with my family and when those boundaries were crossed, make sure I addressed it ASAP to make sure it did not happen again. It was an adjustment to ensure they gave me full privacy and also to make them understand my working hours went farther than the hours of the actual job. It was helpful for me to also let them know the same expectations from when I lived at home pre-college could not still stand (example, eating dinner together every night) because I simply did not have time for an hour long dinner/was not always free from work/meetings at the time of our typical dinner. I think ensuring those things are known in advance makes it easier to re-explain/re-tell family members when conflict arises. Good luck, I'm sure you will make the right decision for you!

That makes a lot of sense. Actually, my sister started her first year of teaching and has been virtual all year. I have been pretty much virtual for school as well. Her at home with my parents and also 10 year old younger twin siblings is a lot but we all manage it well. I think it will be ok especially if i'm gone most of the day.

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I think having the home network that you mention (especially staying nourished!) is well worth the commute/other issues. and it's just for 3 years. I think your parents will be helpful with your situation when they see your 1L workload. just having someone around to 'cook' for you is an amenity. I'm planning to do something similar (except it will be just me and my mom, we've been a bit of a team since her divorce and we are excited to start over somewhere new, maybe, together), because i think the pros so greatly outweigh the chance of having to study at home in a less-than-ideal sound environment - - or in an environment that doesn't understand the law school workload. You'll have a bit of a personal assistant support structure - - and the time you'll save NOT having to shop, cook, clean, etc will be PRICELESS to going into your studies. you might not have time for a social life anyways! but even that will work itself out if you do.

Another consideration is that even if you move out on your own, there's no guarantee that you'll have a quiet environment. I'm in an apartment right now and the tenants below us are ridiculously, shake the floor, loud. it has been impossible to preptest here and I can't wait to MOVE. the tenants before were chain smokers (in a nonsmoking building) and it was horrible. the management doesn't care or even respond to complaints. So you could end up with nightmare living situation even on your own.

That is some great insight. I agree with everything you said!! It is just crazy because a few people are so insistent that i need to be on my own...I don't really understand why. I think it is just throwing money down the toilet. If i really need to escape, the library is 25 minutes from my house. I would have no problem commuting when i needed to for events and other non-class things. Plus if i spend the whole day there, i think i can manage my load pretty well.

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So I have decided to go to a school that is just 20 minutes from my hometown. I made this decision apart from location mainly because i loved it on my visit and got a great scholarship. Plus it has a great network. I have always gotten along with my parents and have young siblings who are still in school and live at home. So here's my dilemma...I think the obvious choice is to live at home and commute. I would have my laundry done, groceries, etc. Plus i would save roughly $35,000 in rent and living expenses. Plus the time having to do laundry, figure out food, cook, clean, etc. Cons: Social life is not ideal, worried about environment because i don't know what to expect this fall. I think my family would give me privacy but i also think they would have unrealistic expectations about me being home. Currently i help out a lot at home and work for my dad, and obviosuly that can't be the case when i start law school. I'm hoping that treating it like a 9-5 would be the best case and just spend my day in class and in the library then come home. What do you guys think? Can i get most of my work done at school and not worry so much about what home will be like? Will living at home hurt or help more? Anything helps!

To me, the answer would depend on the library. Can you basically just sleep at home? That's one thing. The X factor is how well your parents can transition to supporting your new role in the family (essentially, a ghost for 2-3 years). Not knowing anything about your relationships, the older you are, the better your chances.

The school i am going to has a great library with tons of study space. To answer your question about sleeping at home, yes i can sleep at home but i also would have the privacy i need to study if need be. I have a great relationship with my parents and siblings plus my mom would help me do laundry and always have meals for me. i think not worrying about having to deal with things like that would help me a lot. But if you are a currenty/former student any advice would be great/ I think my family could respect my space and understand that i will need it. I think it will be a big change for all of us.

Hey there, don't freak out I am in the same boat as you. I received a great scholarship to my hometown school in Ohio. I also received good scholarships from 4 other schools that were somewhat higher "ranked". To be honest with you, i went into the application cycle knowing i wanted to go to school in Indiana/Ohio/Pennsylvania. Rankings are honestly such a pain in the ass to constantly hear about. People get on here and talk about rankings non-stop and it's really pretty annoying. Don't get caught up on rankings. You need to make connections and go to the place that feels like home. Though i probably could have gotten into a few T30 schools, i didn't even apply to any because i knew that even if i got in i would have no scholarship money and have to pay for living expenses. I know several judges and lawyers and they all tell me that it is all about networking. If they come down to several applicants for a job opening, they will almost always go with the person they know or are connected with. I also was literally only able to visit the school I decided to go to and one other one that i never seriously considered. The other schools only offered virtual visits which really made me kind of mad. No way am i going to commit to a school that i've never even been in. How much higher ranked is your top choice? It would help to know the actual schools you're weighing. Being from Ohio, I know pretty much every school here and have atleast been on most campuses. If you want to privately discuss your options/money let me know!

Take this advice if you take any. I was in your boat. Doing awful on LG and decent on LR. When i focused all my time on LG, i improved DRAMATICALLY. I went from getting -15 on average to -3/4 in just a few weeks of studying. When you feel confident on logic games, the rest of the test feels so much more reasonable. Your reading is pretty solid already and your LR! I never did that good even on my best PT. Sounds like you are in very good shape overall and if you can get that LG up, you'll be sitting great.

So sorry to hear about your rough go...the LSAT can be so overwhelming. In my opinion, if you scored in the 150s a lot and were aiming at 160 but hit the 130s, something went very wrong and you need to cancel. It depends on where you go, but even if you had a 4.0 GPA and were aiming at a lower school be prepared to pay full tuition if you are even admitted. I would cancel without question. I know you want to be done with the LSAT but you can't be.

Maybe study again and see how you do on the next few PTs. If you are in the 150s, then i suggest sign up soon and take it again. There's still time to apply this cycle. You can apply now and tell them your LSAT is on the way. I don't find it worth it to take an entire year and put all that anxiety on yourself again. You can always apply late, especially with the COVID circumstances or just wait until next year. But again if you are capable of scoring in the 150s then maybe you just got bad anxiety on test day.

If i were you, I would take a week off and get your mind right. Then take a PT and see where you stand. If you are scoring up higher again schedule to take the next one asap. If you are still low, then start a study plan again and wait until next cycle.

Again, so sorry to hear about this. I lost a few points on test day but this seems much more severe. Just try and relax yourself and ensure that it is just a test- it doesn't define you. I went into the test and just pretended i was taking a PT, knowing that no matter my score i could take it again if i needed to. Good luck and i hope the best for you!!

wow huge improvement congrats!