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PT126.S4.Q22
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Thursday, Oct 31 2019

premise:

B is a subgroup of A

C includes all A's except those that are also D

B is not a subgroup of D

conclusion:

C includes B

A) B (all prepackaged foods) is a subgroup of A (things that cause a risk of tooth decay)

C (the nutrition foundation) excludes all B's that are not D's??

already off the rails and gets worse - cross it out and move on

B) B (coreopsis) is a subgroup of A (perennial)

C (the garden club) includes all A's except those that are D (shrubs or not native)

B is not a subgroup of D

C includes B

delicious

C) B (the windsor coalition) is a subgroup of A (community organizing to discourage overdevelopment)

C (the neighbourhood association) includes A's except those that are D (threatening regional economic growth)

C includes B

how do we know this? we weren't told that B is not a subgroup of D!

D) B includes A

C excludes D

already strayed from our format - C needs to include A

E) B includes A

C includes B's that are D even if F

what's happening here..

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PT126.S4.Q16
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emmabolf773
Tuesday, Oct 29 2019

I read the question stem as "which one of the following is also true" which was my first big mistake.. second was assuming I could accurately parse through the grammar without mapping it out.

OPA: IP→FT

P: IP→FI→ID

C: not IP→FT

what I should have been looking for was a not both rule between FI and FT (answer C)

mapping it out makes everything so much clearer

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PT126.S4.Q14
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emmabolf773
Tuesday, Oct 29 2019

I too picked D because I thought it sounded right instead of B which I was fully aware destroys the argument when negated. Brutal.

When waffling between two NA answers negate them!

- B when negated destroys the argument - it literally says the pattern of behaviour IS genetically predetermined

- D when negated "the social behaviours of macaques are not completely independent of their genetic heritage" just means the two can influence each other - the two could influence each other but you need to make the assumption that the influence of genetic heritage does not necessarily have to be a factor of influence (when looking at the timeline of a few years or decades) to destroy the argument - in other words literally choice B

The strong wording of D seduced me and made me forget that it is an NA question not a SA question so strong wording isn't necessarily necessary

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PT124.S2.Q19
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emmabolf773
Thursday, Nov 28 2019

I chose C because no one uses travel agents so their lack of knowledge on the issue would be irrelevant ..

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Tuesday, Feb 25 2020

ALSO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE KIND WORDS!! I love this community so much.

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emmabolf773
Tuesday, Feb 25 2020

@ said:

Thank you so much for the advice!

For the Loophole's basic translation drills, how long did they take you to do starting out? They're taking me an hour and a half to do a single section, which is super discouraging -- I feel like I'm never going to get faster.

Were you stopping to check your translation after each stimulus? That's what I've been doing since that's what the instructions for the basic drill say to do, so I know the timing is a little off due to that; but even w/ taking that into account, it feels like I'll never get it down to (35 mins. )_((/p)

Honestly I never got down to 35 minutes.. I am a slow writer!! I had similar timing issues so I did the timed BTD stopped the timer and checked them after. This got me to 45-50 minutes. The self-check thing (idk what the actual name of it is) on the website I found helpful. Basically it asks you to keep track of how many times you had to go back because you forgot something, how many errors you made, etc.

Using this as an indicator for growth allowed me to focus on quality of study over beating the clock and was much more encouraging as I was seeing improvements even if my timing was not improving.

I would not be discouraged by your timing. If you are seeing improvements with retention and understanding on the first read of the stimulus THAT is what translates to a better score, not how quickly you can write or check your answers.

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Tuesday, Feb 25 2020

@ said:

This is so encouraging, thank you. I also am pretty convinced by now that I should buy the Loophole LR. My LR issues center around timing and the questions with the most difficultly (with my nemesis being Flaw-descriptive weakening). Would you say the Loophole has good strategy for these issues? Would I benefit just as much from drilling what 7sage provides? I am consistently scoring -7 on LR and hope to bring that down to -4 or -3 by the April exam. Thank you again for sharing your success, this is almost exactly the journey I hope to have. Good advice on signing up for consecutive LSATs.

"Would you say the Loophole has good strategy for these issues?"

The whole idea behind the Loophole is to train your brain to 1) have an intuitive understanding of the stimulus the first read through and 2) immediately pick out a necessary assumption in the argument. This is where anticipating the answer choices comes in. Many questions in LR are just a variation on understanding what necessary assumption has been made to connect the premise to the conclusion. If on your first read through you understand the stimulus and the gap (loophole/necessary assumption) that's been made it becomes a lot easier to know what you're looking for in the answers without being distracted by decoys.

For example with flaw-descriptive weakening questions if on your first read through your brain is trained that way it becomes a lot easier to zoom out from the specific NA you intuitively picked up on to describing what assumption was made more broadly. If your brain immediately upon reading the stimulus goes "what if Lisa's views do not represent the whole club's views?" then it's easy to jump to "assumes that one person represents the whole group" once you read the question stem. The answer will be some variation on that wording.

I cannot overstate how valuable it was to train my brain to immediately see NAs in an argument. So many questions are variations on this understanding. Training your brain comes from the translation drills and these are very very tedious drills.

This book is by no means a magic wand but a tool that really worked for me personally. But it took a lot of effort.

In regards to timing The Loophole allowed me to get easier-mid range questions right faster, which allowed my to spend more time on the tougher ones. You will not anticipate answer choices on everything but the ones that you do frees up time for tougher questions.

"Would I benefit just as much from drilling what 7sage provides?"

That is such a personal question that I am not sure if I can answer fairly. Personally 7sage did wonders getting me from 148 to my 164 - using the Loophole in tandem with 7sage pushed me to 169. The thorough BR advocated in 7sage was extremely valuable for me and I definitely recommend writing out your thought process for why one answer was right and why all others were wrong for questions that you are struggling with. That being said the retraining and "back to basics" approach that a deep read of The Loophole allowed me to do definitely made something click that got me that final score jump.

WOW I AM SORRY FOR THE LONG RESPONSE

Basically The Loophole is not a magic wand neither is 7sage but both (combined with many hours and grit) were the tools that worked wonders for me personally, and based on the amount of similar acclaim from others I am sure you will get something out of as well.

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emmabolf773
Tuesday, Feb 25 2020

@ said:

Thanks for sharing! A lot of helpful tips here, especially the test taking strategy part.

Are you applying for the 2020-2021 cycle?

I am applying for a Sept 2020 start - the Ontario system works a little different than the US - all schools have an application deadline of Nov 1st with a final LSAT acceptance date of Jan 2020 so I technically applied before writing the LSAT which was definitely risky

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PT115.S2.Q12
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Wednesday, Aug 21 2019

P1: restricting liberty is wrong, except perhaps when not doing so could result in harm

[RL→W]*

*exceptions may apply

P2: publishing is a liberty (implying restriction would be wrong), offending is not harm (implying exception does not apply)

A concludes: when the exception does not apply RL(p)→W - correct

B concludes: when the exception applies the RL→W relationship always holds true - incorrect - the true statement would be when the exception applies the RL→W relationship may not hold true

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PT115.S2.Q19
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Wednesday, Aug 21 2019

P: all mammals feel pain like dogs and horses

C: all mammals should be protected from experimentation

P→C: if you are capable of feeling pain you should be protected from experimentation

A: irrelevant - the focus of the argument is on the animals not the humans conducting the experiment - furthermore the argument suggests that the feelings of humans are not a legitimate base for regulations (even though we empathize less with some mammals that feeling is not relevant to whether they should be used in experiments - what is relevant is the capacity to feel pain)

B: irrelevant - simply addresses the means used to establish the premise

C: irrelevant - does nothing to link the premise to the conclusion

D: irrelevant - once again the feelings of the people performing the experiments are irrelevant to the argument

E: correct literally states the P→C relationship predicted

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PT115.S2.Q6
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Wednesday, Aug 21 2019

poor writers express mundane ideas in complex language

inattentive readers misunderstand

attentive readers see through the language to the mundane ideas

a) wrong: we are told that poor writers do not effectively use complex language, we no nothing about other writers ability to do so - this principle would limit the complexity of language for all writers regardless of ability of wield it

b) wrong: not worth - value judgment that is not reflected in the stimulus

c) wrong: only the most talented writers? talented writers is not the logical inverse of poor writers (which would be not poor writers) - furthermore just because one group cannot, does not mean the group at the other end of the spectrum can

d) right: if poor writers express mundane ideas in complex language, then a good general principle is if you don't want to be a poor writer don't express mundane ideas in complex language - D says this: don't let the complexity of language go beyond the level of the ideas expressed

e) wrong: you can misunderstand the content and still be aware of the style - just like the passage states inattentive readers are

Hello!!

Excited to be at this stage. This is a long one.

21 Point Increase LSAT Journey Overview

After taking my first diagnostic test with Khan Academy and receiving a 148 I knew I had to get serious about studying. The internet seemed to have many positive things to say about 7sage. I was really into the growth mindset that the program advocates and the blind review process just seemed to make so much sense for me as a tool for learning. So happy I was right!!

Overall the study process took me one year - started in February 2019 and received my 169 score on the January 2020 test. That being said I took about 4 months off for travel/work related/life reasons. When I was studying I averaged 10-20 hours a week. Less if I had other things going on (it's okay to have balance and take breaks). I found myself refreshed and never noticed my skills sliding back after a break which was very encouraging - burn out is so real!!

In one of the 7sage podcast episodes JY suggested that once you are scoring where you want to it might be helpful to sign up for 2 LSATs back to back. It takes the pressure off both takes. I knew the January LSAT was the last one accepted for Canadian law schools and had plateaued in the mid-high 160s (did not need to do better than that to get into good schools here) so I signed up for November 2019 and January 2020.

November 2019 164 Experience

  • Before the November 2019 take I felt like I still could learn more. My scores were ranging from 163-168 with an average of about 166. My BR was consistently in the 170s. I had just picked up a copy of Ellen Cassidy's The Loophole and really felt like with a few more weeks I could break my plateau.
  • Invariably my scores fluctuated with how closely I stuck to my test taking strategies. I felt I needed to make those strategies an ingrained reflex and not something I had to consciously think about in order to consistently hit high 160s.
  • Nerves: I was so nervous during my first take - I couldn't help it. Even knowing I was taking another test in January did little to calm me.
  • Location: The test centre was in a hotel and we took the test in one of their large conference rooms. This venue obviously made the whole thing feel more real and not like it was just another PT.
  • These last 2 points you really cannot control and I think that's the benefit of doing 2 takes. I was so much more ready to let go of the things I could not control because I knew I had another shot.

    164: I knew I could probably get into most schools I applied to so I was happy to have this score under my belt. Knowing I had a score that could get me in was a huge boost. However I knew I could do better and was very excited to have the opportunity.

    164-169 in 6 weeks

    LR Took 2 weeks after reading The Loophole and my November take to really do nothing but the exercises advocated in the book. Really went back to the basics and restructured how I thought about LR. I melded the 7sage and Loophole approach in a way that worked for me. My issue was always focus and timing so the basic translation and advanced translation drills did wonders for me. Little things like not reading the question first made me focus more intently on the argument. After doing these painstaking drills for 2 weeks straight I found myself anticipating answers and being much more efficient. I created an LR problem set that was ALL THE LR questions I had ever gotten wrong during a PT and did the advanced translation drill on that too.

    LG Honestly just kept on with ol' faithful: foolproof method. I love it.

    RC I did not really focus on RC that much during this time (maybe if I did I would have broke 170.. who knows!) apart from PT and BRing as usual. However I think basic translation drills helped with RC as well .. my issues with RC was getting flustered and losing focus.

    After my 2 week Loophole intensive (while doing 2 games a day) I started back on my PT/BR cycle with the purpose of focusing on timing strategy and not score. This is when I hit my first 170. It was a happy day.

    Then the holidays hit and I 100% took 2.5 weeks off to see friends and family. So glad I did. Did one more PT/BR - really took it easy and just like that it was Jan 2020 take time.

    January 2020 169 Experience

  • Nerves: they were there but minimal - I felt ready. In my mind I had already proven myself and I just needed to go through the arbitrary task of sitting down and writing the test. I think physically going through the experience of the previous take got SO MUCH of test day anxiety out of my system.
  • Location: my second take location was muuuch smaller. It was in an office building and the rooms were tiny (7 test takers per room). I got there pretty early and was able to select the desk that was closest to the orientation that my desk is at home (where I did most of my studying). In my room were 6 other women and we spent the 45 minutes before the test taking about our experience studying for the test/applying to schools and all of our opinions on the films nominated for the Oscars. It was a really chill and calming experience. This is so not something I could have planned for but it made the experience so much better. I was in a great headspace going into the test.
  • 169: I am so happy with my score. Do I think I could do better? Absolutely. If 7sage has taught me anything it's that there is alway room for growth. That being said I am so happy to be ending my LSAT journey here and shifting my focus to admissions.

    Takeaways

  • Using The Loophole in tandem with 7sage is such an asset*
  • Focusing on test taking/timing strategies as if it were the 4th area of study for the LSAT is vital*
  • *I truly think doing these 2 things earlier would have helped me do better sooner

  • So much of studying for the LSAT is learning how to study for the LSAT so gotta let that previous footnote go
  • Really taking the time to understand the basics and BR is SOOO important.You cannot walk before you run etc, etc. Type out explanations of questions you got wrong. Lean into your weaknesses - be honest and do not shy away from them.
  • Best resources (imho): 7sage and The Loophole

    Best mindset throughout the journey: know you are capable, know your score does not define your worth/potential, take breaks, have balance, do not let this test take over your life!! And try to enjoy the process.

    Thanks all!!

    EDIT: 2 important things I forgot

  • Feel free to ask me any questions at all - this post is obviously a (not so) small snapshot into my experience and I am happy to go more in depth into a specific area if someone thinks it might help them on their journey.
  • I cannot say enough about how vital the 7sage CC, videos, podcast, ethos, etc. was to my learning and growth. The community I found here made me feel like I was not in this alone.. because I wasn't!!
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    emmabolf773
    Thursday, Feb 20 2020

    Thank you - this is helpful!!

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    Tuesday, Feb 18 2020

    emmabolf773

    ISO Canadian Law School Opinions

    Hello all!!

    After receiving a 169 on the January LSAT (thank you 7sage!) I am now in the position where I may need to decide between the 5 law schools I applied to in Ontario (U of T, Osgoode, Queen's, Western and U of Ottawa). I am wondering if any fellow Canadian 7sagers have come across any good resources for comparing the programs at these schools.

    My interest lies more in the realm of public interest law and I am worried about ending up at a school that focuses too much on corporate law (I have heard this is the case with Western and U of T). I am also worried about writing these options off before really understanding the programs.

    Posting on the off chance any fellow Canadians have heard first hand or have experienced themselves the realities of a law degree at any of these institutions.

    Thank you!!

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    emmabolf773
    Thursday, Nov 14 2019

    @ said:

    D is wrong because it is inaccurate. The argument doesn’t presume all reworked music is always published on the internet.

    If D was changed to say that it overlooks the possibility that reworks could be published in a non-internet medium (like a CD) it would still be wrong because the conclusion is specifically talking about music on the internet. The reason I bring up this hypothetical is because it is kind of a negation of what D is saying.

    This question tests your ability to quickly identify that percentages of people doing an activity =/= volume of said activity.

    THANK YOU that totally made it click.

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    emmabolf773
    Thursday, Nov 14 2019

    The holy trinity of my LSAT improvement has been: 7sage, The Loophole by Ellen Cassidy & rest.

    Diagnostic was 153 and I scored my first 168 within 4 tests. What is important is that you truly interact with the study material not just PT/review, PT/review, etc. - do the practice/drills/extra questions that each resource suggests. Make sure you are living a balanced life so you do not burn out.

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    PT114.S4.Q6
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    Tuesday, Aug 13 2019

    P1: human experts gain info through experience which leads to intuitive response

    P2: expert computer systems gain info through rules & facts

    C: human experts are better than expert computer systems

    possible NA:

    - experience & intuition are superior to rules & facts

    - experience & intuition cannot be rendered into rules & facts - the 2 kinds of information are incompatible

    A: got caught up on this for a second - conflated "originality" with "intuition" - however even if it did say "computers can show no more intuition than that built into them by the designer" then it's saying "computers can have some intuition (the level that was built into them)" how does that bridge the P→C gap? it doesn't - irrelevant - move on

    B: directly states 2nd guessed NA

    C: low key undermines the argument - move on

    D: who cares about future development - irrelevant - move on

    E: restating stimulus - irrelevant - move on

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    emmabolf773
    Monday, Aug 12 2019

    @ thank you!! did not even realize that was a feature!

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    PT136.S4.Q10
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    Wednesday, Dec 11 2019

    What stumped me on this is that the stimulus said the amino acid tends to break apart in a non-reducing atmosphere - I waffled between A and B then picked B.

    If it tends to break apart it might not, and if one amino acid was sufficient to start life then it could happen despite the low chances.

    HOWEVER earlier it was stated that amino acids do not readily form (read do not form) in the non-reducing atmosphere - you cannot take a 0% chance of forming and a 1% chance of not breaking apart and say there's a chance it will form and not break apart .. we started with a 0% chance.

    Furthermore for A the explanation that there was a pocket of the ideal atmosphere is SO MUCH MORE SATISFYING - if the main issue was the non-ideal atmosphere, and now we have pockets of the ideal atmosphere, problem solved.

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    Sunday, Nov 10 2019

    Great idea - thank you!

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    emmabolf773
    Saturday, Nov 09 2019

    Will do - that definitely sounds like the safest bet!

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    PT123.S3.Q13
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    Thursday, Aug 08 2019

    P: Cognitive psychotherapy (CPT) focuses on changing patients conscious beliefs (CPCB)

    Only conscious beliefs are under patients control

    C: CPT likely more effective than forms of psychotherapy (PT) that do not focus on CPCB

    A: we're not focused on the cause of psychological beliefs we're focused on overcoming them - furthermore we're not saying that other forms of PT are ineffective, we're saying that CPT is more effective, therefore A could be true or false and not have any sway on the argument .. A is irrelevant

    B: links the concepts of CPT and CPCB (premise) with being effective (the conclusion) - "it is difficult for any form of psychotherapy to be effective w/o focusing on mental states that are under the patient's direct control" - CPT is a therapy that does this, therefore it is more effective than the therapies that do not, because not focusing on conscious beliefs is a hinderance

    LAST TEST if you negate this statement it would severely weaken the argument: "whether or not psychotherapy focuses on conscious mental states is irrelevant" direct kick to the heart of the argument .. bodes well for B

    C: we're not pitting all forms of psychotherapy against each other - we're just saying that CPT is more effective than other forms of therapy that do not focus on CPCB - whether CPT is the only one that does this is irrelevant

    ANALOGY: "honey crisp apples are better than green apples because they are red" the statement "honey crisp apples are the only form of red apples" is irrelevant to the scope of this argument

    D: Let's say that CPT is 75% focusing on conscious beliefs and 25% unconscious, while the other PTs CPT is up against are 25% conscious and 75% unconscious - saying: "no form of PT that focuses on unconscious can be effective unless also addresses conscious" - but does that mean that CPT is more effective? what if that 25/75 split of the other PTs is optimal? You can satisfy D while not contributing to strengthening the position that CPT is more effective than these other forms of PT

    E: the first part is restating a premise in a really odd way, the last part is just very irrelevant to the idea of bonding CPCB and CPT with being effective which is our goal - trying to figure this answer out/how it might be relevant kind of seems like a time trap on test day

    Therefore B is the way to go. Hopes this helps someone!

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    Friday, Nov 08 2019

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    Old PTs v New Tests: The Final Push

    Through my 7sage account I have access to PTs 36-58; I have taken PTs 36-43. I am also taking the November & January LSAT. For my last 6 PTs I have been consistently scoring between 165-168 (diagnostic 153) and BRing always above 170.

    I started to get worried about the differences between the old and new LSATs so took PT 77 and scored just below my usual range (163) but not so much that it alarmed me. I honestly did not notice a major difference in the test - RC felt the same, LG was -1 and LR was where my score dipped but not too bad (during that hour the library was overrun with screaming 6 graders so that may be partially responsible for my dip in score).

    I am wondering if there are any success stories from people who only practiced from PTs up to 58 - I really do not want to spend more money on all of the latest PTs but also it is a small price to pay for LSAT success.

    I have access to some newer PTs but cannot BR them as they are with a different online course so this additional factor pushes me to want to use them as a diagnostic not a study tool.

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    Tuesday, Aug 06 2019

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    How to retake digital PTs w/o losing info

    Hello,

    I'm wanting to retake some of my PTs a few months after I took them originally to make sure my BRing stuck.

    Is there a way to take a digital PT for the second time without losing the info from the first take? Is there a way to omit the score of the second take from my overall 7sage analytics? I know it will be inflated so I do not want it to be counted officially in 7sage analytics.

    Many thanks!

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    PT116.S1.P1.Q4
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    emmabolf773
    Tuesday, Nov 05 2019

    For #4 another point about C: the issue is not that the methods for testing the safety of this technology are poor (quality control issue) it's that (according to the passage) "are likewise unassessed" - the issue is not that the methods for assessing safety are faulty it's that they are non-existent until a major disaster strikes

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    PT116.S3.Q23
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    emmabolf773
    Tuesday, Nov 05 2019

    I got tripped up by "the reason for this is probably" - I took it as introducing a premise supporting the conclusion of the first sentence instead of introducing a hypothesis/conclusion. Because of the subject matter the structure was not intuitive so I turned it into a Boomer think-piece:

    The world is bananas! The reason for this is probably because Millennials love avocado toast. To see this consider they spent $10 a week on toast when they could be putting $1000 a week into savings for a house. Thus, if Millennials do not stop eating avocado toast the housing market will crash spiralling the world into further chaos.

    "The world is bananas!" is clearly the phenomenon that no one disputes.

    The hypothesis/conclusion that the rest of the argument is trying to support is that Millennials loving avocado toast is the culprit of this phenomenon. Everything that follows is supporting that hypothesis/conclusion.

    In other news I 100% just ate breakfast.

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    PT116.S3.Q25
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    emmabolf773
    Tuesday, Nov 05 2019

    I 100% fell for the "most" "often" distinction trap. I tried to match grammar instead of mapping it out. Obviously not how you get questions right.

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    PT116.S2.Q16
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    emmabolf773
    Tuesday, Nov 05 2019

    Flipping between B and E - answered B and obviously got it wrong

    B:

    1) you can negate this and have the argument still holds - new businesses coming in could counter the loss of the local industries even if they were primary to the region's economy

    2) the use of "MOST" which means we could exclude that whole answer choice from our specific region of natural beauty

    E:

    you cannot negate this and have the argument still hold - if factors harmful to some older local industries discourage other businesses from relocating to that region than that region will FOR SURE experience an overall loss

    Lesson: when flipping between 2 answers on an NA question negate them both and see which holds (also pay attention to use of "most")

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    PT116.S3.Q19
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    emmabolf773
    Tuesday, Nov 05 2019

    P:

    - today only a handful of different strains of crops are planted

    - crops lack the diversity they had generations ago

    C:

    - a disease that strikes a few strains of crops would DEVASTATE food supply (as opposed to a few generations ago

    A: irrelevant - does not attack the bridge from the premise to the conclusion - we are not talking about crop diseases that would wipe out food supplies of the past

    B: if crops can be replaced QUICKLY from seed banks that store MANY STRAINS of those crops this directly goes against the idea that food supplies would be DEVASTATED

    C: so so irrelevant - the argument and conclusion is not focused on crops of the past - this could be true and the argument could still be true this does nothing to weaken the argument

    D: once again completely irrelevant - human preference never comes into the argument

    E: just because today's crops are more resistant to damage from insects and weeds DOES NOT MEAN they are any less vulnerable to disease devastation - once again irrelevant

    I chose E knowing it was wrong because I viewed them all as wrong - for some reason it did not click for me that B directly weakens the bridge from the premise to conclusion. However I could articulate why all the others were wrong.

    Lesson: if time is ticking for the love of the LSAT pick the once answer you are unsure about not the 4 you KNOW are wrong. Woof.

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