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Tuesday, Apr 30 2019

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Logic Games Advanced

Hi guys so I review my logic games with the 7 sage videos on Youtube, but something I found I have difficulty with is determining or knowing when to use sub game boards. I have found that sometimes I have made them and they dnt require which confuses me. I try to think that of there is a variable that is limited to 2 or 3 positions to create sub game boards, but this has backfired on me a couple times.I appreciate any help or advice! Thank you

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ericauhunmwangho91
Tuesday, Oct 29 2019

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Thanks all for your advice. After speaking with several attorneys at my current firm, I've decided to push my exam back to January. At the end of the day, I'd rather have a great score and apply later than originally planned than to have an OK score (in my opinion) and apply a few months earlier.

I agree, trust me most of us are int he same boat, everyones path is different, just keep working hard and really utilize the next couple months! Good luck!

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ericauhunmwangho91
Tuesday, Oct 29 2019

I am also kind of in the same boat I have been studying for the lsat for about 9 months now I took it in June 2019 got a 150 I have been studying since in preparation for the November LSAT but I'm still not where I need to be I am struggling with the exam during timed sessions. So I may push back to January, however I was originally adamant on applying as early as i can, but at the end of the day I realized you cannot rush the LSAT process and it does take time, and and high LSAT score weighs so much more than anything else. My advice would to be get the supplementals for you application together gradually as you study, so you are not interfering with your study schedule, and by the time you get your score you can send it in immediately, it is worth the wait if you get a good score.

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Sunday, Dec 29 2019

Hey guys so I have definitely have been taking into consideration a lot of the advice and I have improved with my timing for LR. However im still really struggling in RC I don't know what it is. I feel like it is hard for me to read for structure because I can't fully concentrate on the passage because I'm always thinking about reading for structure. But Idk if there is something else that is pulling me back!! please help!!1 I was beginning to feel very confident but a rough day of RC has brought me down! looking for any advice! thank you all!

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Sunday, Dec 29 2019

why, just why

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Monday, Oct 28 2019

Hi JY this is super upsetting to hear for someone that is still on their LSAT journey like I am your videos are such a huge part of my prep I don't even know what to do. Do you guys think you can make a foolproof logic games package only? For someone like me I have already purchased a nearly $2000 dollar course which didn't help, not from 7 sage but I worked so hard to pay for that and on top of other bills and applying to law school how is someone going to afford the Ultimate package, this is truly the worst thing and Idek how LSAC can honestly do this and not feel disgusting about themselves this is so sad, and smells like greediness for money its so upsetting to hear.

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Monday, Oct 28 2019

ericauhunmwangho91

Horrible timed good untimed/ January LSAT too late??

Hey guys im reaching out to anyone that can offer me some advice. I do pretty well untimed and timed I do horribly. I took the June LSAT and scored a 150 and my target is a 168+ Ive been studying since August, and I am signed up for the November exam but I took another practice test and I am still around the same area, Idk why when its times all my organized thought goes out the window I have raging anxiety and I cant think straight and stumble on works. It like the episode of spongebob with all the mini spongebob running around like crazy. Basically it is just extremely hard for me, I have gotten significantly better at Logical reasong although more improvement will help as well as continuously foolproofing LG. My biggest struggle is 100% Reading comprehension I mean like bad I don't know what it is. Anyway I am applying for Fall 2020 cycle if I took the January would that be too late, I pretty much have the rest of my application supplements already done, its just this exam I need to get out of the way. Please anyone help me, I feel like a failure and I just don't know what to do.

(Also aiming for a good school not necessarily a T-14, in terms of application cycle and lsat date)

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ericauhunmwangho91
Wednesday, Jul 24 2019

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October is not too late to apply- you would still be on time/slightly early I think. It's pretty unrealistic to aim for an eighteen + point improvement in that amount of time though, especially if you're also working on the rest of your application materials.

Thanks! my main concern was the time of my application I feel like maybe the September exam may be a little more unrealistic but I am pretty confident I can do it, Ive read so many peoples on here talk about it and everyone is different. Speaking to some LSAT instructors one thing they said is not to let other peoples ideas of whats realistic or not deter you so Im gonna go for it!!! thanks for your advice, greatly appreciated :smiley:

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Wednesday, Jul 24 2019

ericauhunmwangho91

deciding between September and October LSAT

Hi everyone looking for some advice here! So I took the June 2019 exam and I did not score where I wanted too. I scored a 150. My goal is to hit 168+ that being said I know I have a lot more studying a head. I just recently bought the LSAT trainer to help me better my skills and I am making a study schedule to incorporate JYs memory method for RC and fool proof method for LG. I am applying to this cycle and I need to make sure that I get this exam score. Is october too late to apply. I wanted September because I wanted to apply early in the cycle, but I do not want to rush this and god forbid have to take it a third time. With the Sept. exam being in 8 weeks and the October exam being in 12. What do you guys think is best? asking in desperate need of advice, I already feel like bad for having to retake but to further push the exam is that too late for the application cycle, for someone who would want to be applying rather early? I am also planning on working on my application that way by the time my score would be released I would be ready to go? Please any advice would be great Thank you!!!

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ericauhunmwangho91
Friday, Dec 20 2019

Okay was anyone else severely thrown off by the term "history"? It is sometimes difficult in deciphering between ac's because an ac like (D) for example a term "history" seem a bit out of scope, and the way a lot of these ac's are explained their often dismissed for out of scope works like "history". It's annoying that they play on the meaning of certain words, the instructor playing devils advocate to both classes is merely definitive of our l knowledge of the term "history"....

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Tuesday, Jan 14 2020

For some reason I mis read this passage as Bettlleheim was in opposition of fairy tales being used for moral instruction based on parents views.... very confusing.

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ericauhunmwangho91
Wednesday, Dec 11 2019

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Theres alot that goes into timing issues.

Here are things that can slow you down:

Not having a set strategy for attacking the question type BEFORE you engage with the stimulus. You have to have a plan on how to attack every question type. This plan should tell you what to pay attention to in the stimulus and what you should do before you tackle the answer choices. If you are spending time coming up with a plan you will run into timing issues.

Leaving the stimulus before you fully comprehend what it has told you. Part of this is tied to your plan that I mentioned above. It is absoloutely critical that you fully comprehend the stimulus and what it is saying (and what it is not saying!) Before you attempt to read the answer choices. The answer choices are not your friend and if you are spending too much time trying to decide between two choices you did not read the stimulis well enough.

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The most common hang up people have is they try to absorb too many details. The details are not going to get you the points. Focus on structure, and author's tone and viewpoints. You should be finished reading the passage within 2-4 minutes with a good understanding of its structure. If you need to go back and read only do so when prompted by a question.

Theres lots of good lsat tutors out there that could help you with the above!

I happen to think I'm one of them so hit me up and I'll gladly help you. I can help you come up with attack plans for LR and help you with your process so you are completing the sections in time. Timing is one of the difficulties of the test but it's not insurmountable!

I agree with a lot of what your saying, and most of the time I can finish a passage in 3-4 min, but I get hung up on questions.I read a forum that said if you get stuck on the RC questions you didn't understand it fully, which makes sense, but my struggle is being able to fully comprehend the passage in 3-4 min. Should I just keep doing passages over and over again? or is there a more effective way to this!!! And amazing, I am currently registered for January I took the exam once before, this past June and im applying for 2020 cycle so I'm under a decent amount of stress over this I could use all the help I can get, I would love to take you up on that!

I would say go watch JYs videos of RC passages. When I watch his videos it clues me into what hes paying attention to and made me start paying attention to those things too.

During my initial read through I try to make a mental map of the structure of the passage. Namely I figure out what each paragraph says (in general and non specific terms) and also the role it plays in the passage and how it relates to the other parts of the passage. I also try to predict what will come next.

On my 2nd read through during blind review I start looking for clues in the passage that would have predicted what was to come (maybe it's the author's choice of word, or tone) as well as getting a more detailed specific appreciation of the structure of the passage. I will also pay attention to the questions and ask myself how did my understanding of the structure of this passage help me answer this? You will find that understanding structures often helps you eliminate wrong answer choices as well as points you to the portion of the passage you may want to reread if you cannot answer the question without a reread.

Okay, that makes a lot of sense, I am definitely going to try that in my blind review. Im doing much better in RC but I'm still not there yet i want to able to go into RC section feeling confident and not fearful of extremely hard passages.

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ericauhunmwangho91
Wednesday, Dec 11 2019

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I would state timing comes from a gew things: mastery of knowledge, approach and ones evaluation skills. To be honest I did not believe in it until I got to the stage where I am today. I dont even look at the time in any of my sections ... unless its absolute necessary.

I use to worry about timing a lot - but when I did i would rush questions unneccessarily and get them wrong. remember in the LSAT every question is the same. i have seen some of my friends do solely 19 questions in LR and get all them right whereas others would attempt 26 and get 17 right lol.

moral of my advice - timing comes with better accuracy, sharpening of skills and improvement of reading techniques. :)

if u need ever any help - DM me :)

Thank you, I am currently doing much more problem sets in my problem areas to improve my accuracy !, thank you!!!!

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ericauhunmwangho91
Wednesday, Dec 11 2019

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If you find you are taking a lot of time, it's probably because you don't fully understand the stimulus and/or the answer choices and have to re read to piece together the meaning in the stimulus and the ACs.

As someone who also has timing issues, I realized my understanding of certain words made me double or triple back because I did not fully comprehend what was said. I would suggest making flash cards of words that you see that keep popping up that you don't fully understand, for method of reasoning questions there will be a lot of the same general words used in the ACs that if you don't know the specific meaning to will cause you to spend more time.

Some words that I thought I knew the meaning to or didn't know at all were: "Analogy", "Subject Matter", "Characteristic", "Entirely", "Idiosyncratic", etc. Some are probably fairly obvious to others, but knowing what specific words means will help you in answering questions and speed up time!

When BRing, I'd ask my self do I actually know what this word means? Prehrapse the meaning of the word than I'd google the word like "Analogy LSAT meaning" to see if there's a specific meaning for this word on the LSAT. Than write it on a flash card and review it periodically.

Hope this helps.

It does help and I actually do this as well with specific meaning, especially the more common ones on the lsat! thank you!!!

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Sunday, Dec 08 2019

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Hi someone tagged me in this and your advice is pretty sound. I was wondering what tips do suggest for when deciding when to skip and question? I found that when I try to skip, in my head theres a voice saying "just try it, it may be easier than you think" or "you've already read the stimulus twice and waisted the time, might as well look through and pick an ac." But what ends up happening is by the time I'm at question 18 short of time I panic and I CAN'T think straight at all and my mind goes in shambles and that the end of it for me. So pretty much any advice on deciding when to skip I would really appreciate.

For some reason I have this notion that if I skip It will be detrimental and I will end up skipping and still not have enough time to go back which clearly is incorrect , please any advice would be great thank you!!!!!

How to know when to skip ahead in LR:

My experience was to use 7Sage's analytics to understand my weaknesses. I attacked my deficiencies as hard as I could but, even after extensive study there were just some question types that took me longer to "get" than others. For example - I knew that any "parallel" question was an automatic skip. If I came to one of those question types I would automatically flag it, mark answer choice "C" and know I was going to come back to it if I had time.

Additionally, I would skip any question if I was still working on it after about two minutes. Why? Because the other questions count for the same amount of points as that one and why waste the same time getting one hard question wrong when I can use that same time to get two easier questions right? If I was feeling "stuck" or like I wasn't understanding the material, that was my cue to flag, mark, and skip.

What was consistent for me was that, using this method, I would always have only three to six flagged questions to come back to and, usually, there would be one or more that turned out to be not-so-difficult. Plus, when you come back to review three flagged questions and there are still ten minutes left on the clock, it's a great psychological confidence-booster.

The bottom line is that, while at first it seems counter-intuitive to purposely skip questions, it's a method that resulted in several immediate benefits for me. First, it instantly and permanently improved my scores. Next, it enabled me to finish LR sections much faster than before. Finally, it reduced my anxiety about the LR sections in general which helped conquer my stress about the LSAT as a whole.

I agree with this especially during blind review many of the questions I get wrong it was because I read wrong or was rushing and my anxiety it was not as difficult as I initially expected. I really feel as though this will be a game changer for me!! Thank you for your advice, I'm very appreciative

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Sunday, Dec 08 2019

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When I started studying, getting through all 4 RC passages seemed impossible. I was consistently missing 7 - 11 per RC section and I knew I needed to improve efficiency. I tried learning speed-reading techniques, reading the first sentence of each paragraph before going back and reading the whole passage, and several annotation strategies - none of which were very effective methods for me.

What did work was to think of each paragraph kind of like it was its own LR stimulus. In the same way I learned to translate LR questions I would make a simple mental summary after each paragraph telling myself what its point was as well as its role within the passage. I would make these summaries very simple to remember, like this: "P1, background, two perspectives on law," "P2, perspective 1 support," "P3, perspective 2 support," P4, author supports third perspective."

Understanding an RC passage in this way is what will get you the points far better than attempting to memorize all the information contained. Why? Because you'll tend to retain enough for the broad questions while having a mental map outlining where to quickly locate specific information. I found this is the only thing that sped up my RC time and improved my scores to a -2 average. Warning: learning to do this was frustrating at first because it goes against the way most of us have been reading all our lives. However, with diligence, the payoff should be worth your efforts.

Hope this helps.

This sounds more effective, similar to the memory method, I think this is what I will be doing considering that wha I have been doing hasn't been working!!! Thank you sm and I also commented on your other post!!!

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Sunday, Dec 08 2019

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I would recommend getting the Loophole LR. In that book, Ellen puts all of the LR questions into two categories based on the answer choices: Powerful and Provable. Once I went through the book and had a solid purchase on the information, I started saving a bunch of time by going through the first ten questions of a section normally, and then I did the remaining 15-16 by doing all Provable, and then going back and doing all Powerful. It keeps your brain focused on correct answer choices, and it definitely mitigates damage caused by trap ACs. It cut about 5 minutes off of my timing and my accuracy went from missing 3-5 to 0-2 on LR. I was at 167 avg and now I am at 170 avg.

I have heard about the book and I was tempted, but I don't think I have much time to incorporate it into my studies, I did the LSAT Trainer about almost 2 months ago and I am registered for the January I feel as if the remaining time I should really dedicate to PT's, BUT I will look into it. Thank you!!!

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Sunday, Dec 08 2019

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My biggest jumps at the stage you're in came from time management strategies. For example, when doing Logic Games, answer the orienting question then skip ahead and answer all the "if" questions before coming back to the others. "If" questions leave your scratch paper full of possible scenarios that the universal questions might ask for. The resulting time saved will give you a cushion for more difficult games.

In LR, similarly, when you come to any time-consuming question-type (like parallel flaw, etc...) or a type you know you are weaker with, just mark a random answer choice, flag it, and skip to the next. This may seem counter-intuitive at first, but there is a psychological benefit I've found that translates into better scores. When you waste a lot of time on a difficult question, and you know you still have 15 to go, it is normal to feel more pressure and, at least for me, the tendency is to try to rush the answers in the rest of the questions. By skipping the hardest ones, I always find myself at the end of the section with around 15 minutes left to work through 3 to 5 flagged questions after having confidently answered the other 21 or so questions. My average at LR is currently -1.

Good luck and I hope this helps!

Hi someone tagged me in this and your advice is pretty sound. I was wondering what tips do suggest for when deciding when to skip and question? I found that when I try to skip, in my head theres a voice saying "just try it, it may be easier than you think" or "you've already read the stimulus twice and waisted the time, might as well look through and pick an ac." But what ends up happening is by the time I'm at question 18 short of time I panic and I CAN'T think straight at all and my mind goes in shambles and that the end of it for me. So pretty much any advice on deciding when to skip I would really appreciate.

For some reason I have this notion that if I skip It will be detrimental and I will end up skipping and still not have enough time to go back which clearly is incorrect , please any advice would be great thank you!!!!!

Oh hey haha I just commented on your thread. Well, to respond to this--I think the key is time. If you spend more than X amount on a question, you need to guess, flag, and move on. What "X" is depends on how you're doing, how many questions are left when you run out of time, etc. In LR, when practicing, I'd glance at the clock and aim to spend 1 min per question; if I ever spent more than 2 to 3min˜, I circled it and went back to it; and as I neared the last 10, I aimed to have like 12min left for the last 8 questions or so. Personally, going back to a circled question was often really nice--because half the time, the problem wasn't my reasoning, it was that I'd misread a word in the stimulus or something, so coming back to it again from semi-scratch meant re-reading it and having a greater chance at spotting my mistake.

I also always skipped parallel reasoning questions, or anything with an insanely long stimulus, and saved them for the end--those ones, I didn't even read the prompt, so the 2 minute thing doesn't apply.

~ I say 2 - 3 because, well, firstly I wasn't timing how long I spent on each question, and secondly I had a sense of the fact that some questions deserve a bit more time than others. If it was a question that felt like it deserved 2 minutes, then I'd cut it off at 2. If it felt like it deserved 3, I'd cut it off at 3. That's subjective, but I think you just need to train yourself with practice to realize when you've spent "too long" on a question, and what too long means to you.

Haha yes I just responded, on my thread, thank you. You are really helping me out I'm eager to now incorporate your advice and methods, bc I really feel like it will help with my timing!!

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Sunday, Dec 08 2019

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There is one way you can build your self-confidence, it is by helping other people build their self-confidence. Tell the people around you how much you appreciate them, it is perfect timing because it is the holiday season, I suggest writing many people a note or on a card. Don't make things up, think about how you feel about them and tell them, everybody wants to feel appreciated. I promise you that it will make you feel better about yourself.

This is really thoughtful, and I will definitely make an effort to do this thank you!!! Happy Holidays! I APPRECIATE your advice :smile:

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Sunday, Dec 08 2019

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My take on it, as someone who has had several breakdowns similar to what was described, is the following. (I will first say that not knowing what studying strategies you've employed during the past 9 months makes it harder to answer.)

The main thing is to make sure you're doing everything you can to attack and fix any area where you are lacking. Are your basics strong in all sections? Personally, regardless of my issues with time restraint, I studied the LSAT Trainer thoroughly, supplemented with some other resources, to a point where I feel pretty good about how I conceive of the material. So if your basics (e.g. what habits do you have when attacking a particular L.R. question) are not solid, that's something to consider fixing.

With regards to the time thing, my difficulty seems similar to yours. I have weak mental discipline, my mind obsesses over any random thing, but a 35 minute window requires sharp focus, and I tend to get a lot of anxiety from the pressure of time elapsing as well. To fix that, I forced myself to do timed sections over and over. That's it. It's like anything in life that freaks you out: once you've put yourself in that position a hundred times, your mind gets used to it a little bit.

Now for you, it's been 9 months, so I don't know whether you've tried that, and it hasn't worked. If that's the case, then I don't know. Try to figure out the roots of your struggles, and attack them.

It's hard to stay motivated when things suck, but all the motivation you need is in you brother. At some point, you thought "I am capable of getting X score on the LSAT" and then you set out to do it. Your motivation should be to prove yourself right.

I actually was so afraid of timed PTs and sections I would never do them, I used to pause the proctor and just cry out of my anxiety,but I am now forcing myself to do the timed because I have no option, I feel as if this will help. Facing my fears is the only way! I also used LSAT trainer it really helped me with much better outlook on what each qt needs me to do!!! Thanks for the motivation, I will def make that a new mantra of mine hahah!!!! thank you!!!

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Sunday, Dec 08 2019

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A few tips that worked for me:

Don't take notes on RC. Instead, read the passage SLOWLY, so that you make sure you aren't skipping ahead without REALLY understanding what you just read. Keep connecting what you're reading to what you read earlier, and take brief 3 second pauses after each paragraph to bring back the ideas of earlier paragraphs. When I spent more time on the actual passage, though it sounds counter-intuitive, I ended up speeding through RC. Because most of the time is usually spent on the questions--especially when you then have to go back to the passage digging for material, sometimes going through way more times. The up front work really pays off. So I definitely recommend taking your time on the passage, and when you're practicing, its OK at first if you go over the 35 minutes. As you get better at spotting patterns you can bring that down, and you have enough time to do that if you do enough practice over the next month.

Hopeful's advice is great. Depending on where you're scoring, you may need to be realistic about skipping tough questions. But it also might mean spending less time on easier ones--sometimes those were the real time drainers for me, because I was triple checking to make sure too many times, and you might just not have time for that if you want to get through the whole thing. Practice by NOT double checking and just circling the question, so you can double check if you have time later (or if not, during Blind Review).

After blind review, check your answer sheet and mark answers you got wrong -- write the Section and Question number on a separate paper, like S3Q14 --- and then go back and re-do those questions without knowing what the correct answer is. This is a supplement to blind review because usually the areas we need to improve the most are the ones we can't spot on our own. By not checking the answer first, you're forced to think as hard as you possibly can, to figure out why you picked the wrong answer, and try to figure out what the right answer actually is. If you succeed, that reasoning will be much more strongly implanted in your mind for future tests.

Read the economist or something similar as much as you can, or even listen to podcasts if you have commuting time that you can't read or spend on LSAT studying, and really FOCUS on trying to capture everything you are reading in your mind. Read it (or listen to the podcast) as if its an LSAT passage, as if you are about to be quizzed on it.

Try to find the reasoning flaws and assumptions in everything your friends, family, etc. say. This might piss them off, but hey, its worth it if it improves your score, and maybe they'll learn a thing or two as well. Don't just ID the flaw, but then explain to them why what they said was flawed. Or point out that they made X assumption in their reasoning. You have a month left--turn the entire world into the LSAT. It sounds a bit nuts but... it helps.

Do as much practice as you possibly can, and supplement it by going back to course videos on 7sage for topics you have trouble with (or using a book, working with a tutor, whatever works for you), and then practicing again, and then go back to the fundamentals again, etc. It can feel hopeless and draining but its the only way to do it.

As for motivation... I personally did virtually all of my studying in a month and a half, and scored a 179, so there's no underestimating what can be achieved in such time. And feel free to hit me up if I can be of any help!

Okay thank you, thank you , thank you so so much. First off I would also love to take you up on that offer of help!And secondly thank you for of this advice I am 100% incorporating all of this. For reassuring me on the remaining time left I sometimes feel as if there is never enough time and you have given me a confidence kick I need to fully utilize my time left. If you don't mind I would love if you can give me feedback on my study schedule and habits, and if you have any advice or think maybe I should be doing less or more of something please feel free to let me know.I also work so Im not entirely free for the week.

Currently

Day 1: Timed PT

-BR RC

-BR LG (Fool proof method)

read flaw flashcards before bed

Day 2: BR both LR sections

-make a list of questions, circled, incorrect

-go over weak areas

Day 3: finish going over weak areas

-practice lg (fool proof) for the ones I still not confident in

-practice rc passage 1 or 2 passages (depending on how much studying I do)

and i repeat this, granted most occasions its stretches out to 4 mostly 5 days depending on my work schedule and because blind review is a long and tedious process.

But I want to make sure I am maximizing my improvement and efficiency with my remaining time.

So if you can lmk what you think!!! Or anyone else for that matter!

and amazing congrats on your score thats INCREDIBLE, truly!

I definitely hear you on the easier questions, I get hung up on reassuring myself one too many times. Also when you say keep practicing and supplementing with videos, when i am practicing my weak areas, I do problem sets? Would you suggest this method or anything else.

-With my time I aiming for studying 6-8 hrs a day give or take, any thoughts more time?? I am ready to go in, I need need to do well and succeed and I just have to make use with the time I have now!

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ericauhunmwangho91
Sunday, Dec 08 2019

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Theres alot that goes into timing issues.

Here are things that can slow you down:

Not having a set strategy for attacking the question type BEFORE you engage with the stimulus. You have to have a plan on how to attack every question type. This plan should tell you what to pay attention to in the stimulus and what you should do before you tackle the answer choices. If you are spending time coming up with a plan you will run into timing issues.

Leaving the stimulus before you fully comprehend what it has told you. Part of this is tied to your plan that I mentioned above. It is absoloutely critical that you fully comprehend the stimulus and what it is saying (and what it is not saying!) Before you attempt to read the answer choices. The answer choices are not your friend and if you are spending too much time trying to decide between two choices you did not read the stimulis well enough.

With RC

The most common hang up people have is they try to absorb too many details. The details are not going to get you the points. Focus on structure, and author's tone and viewpoints. You should be finished reading the passage within 2-4 minutes with a good understanding of its structure. If you need to go back and read only do so when prompted by a question.

Theres lots of good lsat tutors out there that could help you with the above!

I happen to think I'm one of them so hit me up and I'll gladly help you. I can help you come up with attack plans for LR and help you with your process so you are completing the sections in time. Timing is one of the difficulties of the test but it's not insurmountable!

I agree with a lot of what your saying, and most of the time I can finish a passage in 3-4 min, but I get hung up on questions.I read a forum that said if you get stuck on the RC questions you didn't understand it fully, which makes sense, but my struggle is being able to fully comprehend the passage in 3-4 min. Should I just keep doing passages over and over again? or is there a more effective way to this!!! And amazing, I am currently registered for January I took the exam once before, this past June and im applying for 2020 cycle so I'm under a decent amount of stress over this I could use all the help I can get, I would love to take you up on that!

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ericauhunmwangho91
Sunday, Dec 08 2019

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Maybe some exercises with a gradual time decrease?

I was thinking that but im currently struggling with the regular one mainly bc my mind scrambles I think ultimately I get time wrapped into certain questions!

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ericauhunmwangho91
Sunday, Dec 08 2019

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How many exams have you done? A lot of them? How many do you have left

I wouldn't say alot I used to be very afraid of taking practice exams but on my current studying schedule I have like 6 more before the january exam!

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Saturday, Dec 07 2019

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Timing is really hard as I also struggle with it as well. What has been helping me is to skip certain questions that just seem to be time-sink during the timed PTs. So when I'm PTing and its timed, I will skip some of the parallel method of reasoning or parallel flawed method of reasoning questions because some of them are incredibly long. If they are not very long, then I will attempt at them. For RC, I recommend reading for structure and writing small blurbs of what the main idea is of each para. In your mind, ask yourself "how does this para connect to the para that I just read?" I used to be horrible at RC but I am slowly improving and what has helped me was to spend more time upfront on the passage before heading to the questions. What I also do is I try to attempt to first do the passage that has the most amount of questions and the passage that I do last is the one that has the least amount of questions because if I run out of time in RC, at-least I know it was a passage that didn't have as many questions as the other passage.

This exam is rough and I really just try to take it a day at a time. Someone in this forum posted a while ago a book that she recommends called - "The Confidence Code." I've recently read it, its a light read and I found it to be helpful- maybe not specifically with the LSAT but in general! Celebrate your small victories and don't be too hard on yourself if you get something wrong- it is just an opportunity to learn from that mistake now as opposed to on the actual test! Good luck!!

Wow thank you so much, yes your right it's better now than on the exam. I appreciate your help and advice!!Good luck to you too!!!!

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ericauhunmwangho91
Saturday, Dec 07 2019

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My biggest jumps at the stage you're in came from time management strategies. For example, when doing Logic Games, answer the orienting question then skip ahead and answer all the "if" questions before coming back to the others. "If" questions leave your scratch paper full of possible scenarios that the universal questions might ask for. The resulting time saved will give you a cushion for more difficult games.

In LR, similarly, when you come to any time-consuming question-type (like parallel flaw, etc...) or a type you know you are weaker with, just mark a random answer choice, flag it, and skip to the next. This may seem counter-intuitive at first, but there is a psychological benefit I've found that translates into better scores. When you waste a lot of time on a difficult question, and you know you still have 15 to go, it is normal to feel more pressure and, at least for me, the tendency is to try to rush the answers in the rest of the questions. By skipping the hardest ones, I always find myself at the end of the section with around 15 minutes left to work through 3 to 5 flagged questions after having confidently answered the other 21 or so questions. My average at LR is currently -1.

Good luck and I hope this helps!

Hi someone tagged me in this and your advice is pretty sound. I was wondering what tips do suggest for when deciding when to skip and question? I found that when I try to skip, in my head theres a voice saying "just try it, it may be easier than you think" or "you've already read the stimulus twice and waisted the time, might as well look through and pick an ac." But what ends up happening is by the time I'm at question 18 short of time I panic and I CAN'T think straight at all and my mind goes in shambles and that the end of it for me. So pretty much any advice on deciding when to skip I would really appreciate.

For some reason I have this notion that if I skip It will be detrimental and I will end up skipping and still not have enough time to go back which clearly is incorrect , please any advice would be great thank you!!!!!

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ericauhunmwangho91
Saturday, Dec 07 2019

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@ I saw your other post and thought this post might help!

Wow, thank you so much this definitely helps!Especially since I have been finding it hard to skip think thats my biggest mistake while doing LR. Thank you!!!!!

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Saturday, Dec 07 2019

ericauhunmwangho91

Struggling with the time constraint

Hi guys Im just looking for some advice here on where to go next, Im registered for the January exam but im still struggling with my timed for RC and LR. I do fine untimed but times it almost seems s impossible. i had a breakdown earlier and was just crying because i have been studying for about 9 months now and I need to apply to this cycle. So I am under a significant amount of stress. Where do I go from here? I know I should keep practicing my section timed but should I do the timed sections separately? And for RC how should I continue with reading the passage in a more timely manner as well as answering the questions.

Basically how to get speed without sacrificing my accuracy? Also anyone know anything that helps boost confidence I feel as if this exam is beating me up every day.

Anyone please help me with advice or personal experience please I'm so desperate.

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ericauhunmwangho91
Friday, Dec 06 2019

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I started with probably a 145-150 diag in Feb, studying 1-5 hours a day (job and family mean no set schedule) averaging 3-4 hours a day. I'm pting at 159-160 and target score is 170+... So far it's been a trying 9 months and much more to go.

Hey Mark just wondering what were some of your study methods that helped you increase your score?

Hello! I am currently studying for the September 2019 LSAT exam, this would be my second time taking the LSAT. I took the June exam and scored 150 on the dot, but I am aiming for my LSAT score to be 168+ because of my low gpa. I recently was offered an opportunity to go to South Africa for a mission trip for human right and justice, which I think would be a great addition to my resume and application. I did a mission trip to Ireland my Junior year of college but I have been out of school for a year and am applying for this cycle. My problem now is that the trip falls a about two weeks before the exam. I would be leaving sept 6 and returning sept 15 with the lsat exam following 5 days later on the 21st. I need to make this decision now if I will be attending the trip. I am very conflicted and would love some honest advice. Will this be a soft that substantial adds to my application especially with a a lower gpa and with hat being said is it worth going the 2 weeks before the September exam. Btw I was planning to study on the plane an print out a few questions to do when I can, or is it not a soft worth risking that time going so close to the exam? please please if anyone can help me I would greatly appreciate it thank you best!!

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