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Monday, Oct 30 2017

I think there are some necessary assumption questions that require us to fill the gap. For example, there were occasions in which the correct answer to na question was both necessary and sufficient. Also, all of the logical reasoning questions with arguments in them are flawed. So, I think it’s safe not to assume the argument as complete/valid.

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Thursday, Oct 26 2017

joeeungihong53

September LSAT Curve Breakers

Title pretty much says everything, but which questions do you guys think were the curve breakers for the logical reasoning sections?

Just trying to see if I missed any "low hanging fruit" questions that I really should have gotten right.

Thanks.

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joeeungihong53
Saturday, Nov 25 2017

@ said:

I'll give this a shot.

Depends on if the question is a strengthening or weakening question. If we are talking strengthening, then you will be looking to block an alternative theory/cause. You want that single coincidence to be the reason that the causation happens

Now on the other hand if the question is weakening, you want to undermine the relationship between the two items of interest which there are multiple ways to do it; can be an alternative theory, reverse causation, no relationship, etc.

There is a good chance that an alternative theory would be the right AC and you are correct to have that in the forefront of your mind.....but it isn't the only way the question can be right. I listed a couple of other ways that the LSAT writers can weaken that relationship.

(P.S. anyone is welcomed to fill in any gaps that I missed haha)

Hope this helps!

Hi!

Thank you for your response!

So, I am asking when there a coincidence is given as opposed to correlation, it seems like I've rarely seen a case where the correct answer was no relationship, reverse, or third common cause. It's almost always alternate theory whereas when a correlation is given, I have seen correct answers being reverse, alternate theory, third common cause, etc...

Sorry if this is not making sense..please let me know!

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Saturday, Nov 25 2017

joeeungihong53

Causation argument (Correlation vs. Coincidence)

Hi guys,

Hope everyone is having a great Thanksgiving break!

I just had a quick question on Causation arguments. I know there are several ways to weaken a correlation/coincidence - causation arguments - providing a common cause that produced both the cause and the effect, showing the relationship is reversed, showing there is a problem with the sample data used, and providing alternate/competing cause.

My question is when stimulus gives a single coincidence (as opposed to correlation) as the support for causal conclusion, would it be safe to assume the answer will most likely be providing alternate/competing cause? I think I came across this concept in one of JY's videos on causations and I don't think I recall any question with coincidence-causation arguments of which the correct answer was not an alternate cause?

What do you guys think??

Thanks.

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joeeungihong53
Wednesday, Nov 22 2017

Anyone?

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Wednesday, Nov 22 2017

@ @ Hey man, I also had similar question on this one, could you please elaborate what you meant by this question requires you to make an extra assumption?

Also, this is how I approach this question:

~DBH (Cannot distinguish between homophones)

IRU (Improved to recognize and utilize blah blah)

AT (Accurately translate blah blah)

Premise: ~DBH

Conclusion: AT -> IRU

I equated DBH and IRU because I mean if it cannot distinguish between homophones such as "their" and "there," doesn't that also mean it will not accurately translate a computer user's spoken words into written text?

So the two ideas are essentially saying the same thing, so new diagram is as follows:

Premise: ~DBH

Conclusion: DBH -> IRU (or ~IRU -> ~DBH)

Therefore, the necessary assumption needed is that without IRU, ~DBH, which is what answer choice (A) states.

Is this a okay reasoning? I feel like this question was atypical since the assumption required was just showing that the necessary condition of the conditional conclusion was indeed necessary whereas other N/A question answers normally bridge the gap between premise and conclusion.

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joeeungihong53
Wednesday, Nov 22 2017

@ Looking forward to your response!

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joeeungihong53
Tuesday, Nov 21 2017

@ Hi, thanks for the response. Sorry, I meant like when the word "do" appears after the logical indicators like always and must, what should be the approach?

In PT 34, the indicator was always, and in PT 73, it was must. I understand "do" alone is not a logical indicator.

So, would it be correct to say these two questions had basically the same argument structures? and also can (B) in PT73 still be correct if the order was reversed as a necessary assumption answer choice? The reason I am asking this is because when I see a clear gap in necessary assumption questions, the correct answer is almost always the one that fills the gap. For example, the stimulus says A and concludes B, the correct answer is A -> B (which can also be a sufficient assumption at the same time). However, this answer choice was atypical as the order was reversed.

Thanks again.

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Tuesday, Nov 21 2017

joeeungihong53

PT73.4.19 and PT34.2.2 (please help)

Hi guys,

I am having trouble understanding JY's reasoning behind choosing correct answers in the above problems.

PT73.4.19 is a necessary assumption question and PT34.2.2 is a sufficient assumption question, and their premise - conclusion reasoning is essentially identical:

We should do A, so the author concludes that we should do B.

In PT34.2.2, the correct answer was (E), which says A -> B.

However in PT73.4.19, the correct answer was (B), which says, B helps A, which kind of sounds like the typical reversal answer choice. I understand how the correct answer choice was necessary for the argument to make sense, but if (B) said A helps B, would this be incorrect answer choice?

On a side note, how should I approach a conditional statement containing the word, "do"?

In PT34.2.2, JY draws a conditional diagram using "Do it," because the stimulus says "the city should always do what makes good economic sense," whereas in PT73.4.19 JY does not, even though the stimulus says "we must do what we can to prevent this loss of motivation." I understand either approach can lead to choosing the correct answer, but what should be the rule of thumb?

Any help would be appreciated.

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joeeungihong53
Thursday, Oct 19 2017

Also interested in this.

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joeeungihong53
Thursday, Jan 18 2018

Speed reading

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joeeungihong53
Friday, Oct 13 2017

@ said:

@ said:

I am about to start to work for one of the big 4 in China. My first concern after reading this is that, the busy season is coming... how do you balance the test preparation and work?

I am also working at big 4 right now for 4th year. To be honestly, if you are really committed to study hard, you can manage the preparation. First year in big 4 isn't that stressful since you don't know anything anyway.

To be honest, I am not sure not knowing anything is relevant to the discussion of how best to balance work and studying. He might not know anything, but 1st year can be still stressful. But I agree with you that "if you are really committed to study hard, you can manage the preparation."

For me what worked is studying in the morning, as opposed to after work. Whenever I came home from work, I was just so tired and couldn't really focus. I would wake up around 5ish and study about 2-3hours and then go to work. In this way, when you come home from the work you can review what you've learned in the morning, go to the gym whatever. The only downside is that around 8-9ish, you are basically done for the day, can't go out (guess its an upside after all when you are studying for an exam like LSAT).

But this is what worked for me. Also, by the way, during the busy season, I only studied about 1-2 hours per day including weekend. I don't know how long the busy season is in China, but hours get better in April here, so if it's the same there, aim for June 2018 LSAT.

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Thursday, Oct 12 2017

joeeungihong53

Sep. LSAT 167, GPA 3.84 Need some help please

Hi guys,

I received a167 on the September LSAT and I have 3.84 GPA from top 30 UG. I am also working as a CPA at a big 4 if this matters at all.

My PT average was around170 - ranging from 163(outlier) to 176. I was somewhat disappointed to see I scored 167, so I am retaking in December. My goal is to bring my score up to low-mid 170s.

So far, I have used PS LR Bible, Manhattan LR and RC, and 7sage videos for LG. I ran out of fresh PTs and I have to confess I did not properly blind review the PTs I have taken, which kind of explains -9 in LR.

My plan for December test is to read LSAT trainer, which I purchased literally 5 seconds after I found my score out, for LR and RC to improve my weak areas and also to thoroughly blind review every PT I retake from now on.

Just want to hear you guys’ opinions if I should add anything to my plan..or I guess if anyone wants to share your story going from 165-169 ranges to 170-175, I’d really appreciate.

Thanks, guys.

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joeeungihong53
Tuesday, Dec 12 2017

@ said:

@ said:

Is it possible for law schools to see the scores before they come out?

Yes, but only slightly and it is not so much that the schools see them as that the candidate referral service sees them and sends fee waivers based on them.

So you are saying, CRS sends list of students to law schools based on the schools' request without disclosing the scores before the release date? (like above certain LSAT scores)

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Thursday, Dec 07 2017

joeeungihong53

Columbia Fee Waiver

Hey guys,

Did anyone just receive a fee waiver from Columbia?

I know fee waivers don’t mean anything in terms of my chance of admission, but it was kind of surprising to see I received one from Columbia, considering my LSAT score is 167. (Hopefully I scored higher on the Dec. LSAT)

What do you guys think?

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joeeungihong53
Friday, Nov 03 2017

@ said:

Can you provide an example a question where this comes up?

Sure. https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/attractive-subway-system-sa-question/

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Friday, Nov 03 2017

joeeungihong53

Using subscripts

Is there a lesson or webinar on how/when to use subscripts in conditional statements?

I see JY uses subscripts in some of the questions, but I often find myself using regular conditional arrows for the same questions.

If there is no lecture, could someone please break it down for me?

Thanks.

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joeeungihong53
Saturday, Dec 02 2017

can anyone confirm if LR section with a question about 7pm and 6pm was real?

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