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joelmpmay141
Thursday, Jun 27 2019

I have taken about 10 PTs on the Digital Tester Beta and for 2 of these tests it has made me Force Refresh and then it fails to reload the test for me unless I delete all of the preptest data. The first time I thankfully had only done one section so I was able to remember my answers and then continue with the test, but the second time (which just happened) I was part-way through the 3rd section, so I couldn't realistically delete the data and re-select all of the answers that I had chosen. This was PT 78. This is bug is really unfortunate given the limited number of PTs that are available. Please try to fix this bug. Thank you.

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joelmpmay141
Tuesday, Nov 26 2019

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Yes, Games went pretty well, but messed up in RC. We'll see what happens...

Nice! I was in a similar situation and I took it again as well. Good luck!

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joelmpmay141
Tuesday, Nov 26 2019

Did you end up retaking?

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PT142.S3.P4.Q25
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Thursday, Jul 25 2019

On question 25, I am struggling to confirm why E is wrong. Personally I don't think that the explanation in the video works. Here's why:

The author states that the two groups of Mexican American activists mentioned in the second paragraph were "diametrically opposed". To say that two things are diametrically opposed is to say that they are direct opposites, or that they are directly in opposition to each other. Additionally, the question is asking about Mexican American political activists as a whole in between the 1930s and 1940s, which means that both of the aforementioned groups are included. Therefore, because we are talking about both of these groups, and because they were often diametrically opposed, it would necessarily follow that they did not succeed in fully achieving their political goals. If at least some of their political goals are directly opposed, it would not be possible for all of their political goals to fully be achieved. The fact that they did not fully achieve their political goals is precisely because they had disparate political views

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joelmpmay141
Thursday, Jul 18 2019

Hey, yeah I’m definitely interested! I’ll message you.

Rereading my post, I do think that I came off as a bit pretentious. What I just don’t want in this group is people that are just beginning their prep and/or are not dedicated to achieving some level of mastery over the LSAT. Of course no one is defined by their score(s).

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Thursday, Jul 18 2019

joelmpmay141

Denver Study Group

Hey everyone,

I am looking for a person or group of people in Denver to form a study group where we meet up once a week or so. I think the ideal scenario would be to all do the same PT, blind review it individually, and then meet up and debate/confirm answers. I am averaging a low-170s score on PTs now, so I would ideally like the group to be people that are generally scoring upper 160s and higher, just to keep it more along the lines of a discussion group as opposed to some people primarily just teaching others. I don't mean for that to sound pretentious, I just think it would be most valuable to discuss and debate questions with people that are presently around the same level. Thanks a lot and let me know if you're interested!

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joelmpmay141
Thursday, Oct 17 2019

It depends on how high you want to score. If you want to score in the 170s/180, barring a very extreme circumstance of being naturally gifted in the LSAT, you are going to have to go over the wrong answer choices for (ideally) every question on every exam that you take. If your target score is lower, you can probably get away with being less thorough.

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PT152.S2.Q17
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joelmpmay141
Sunday, Jul 14 2019

This is one that I had to sit with for a while. I think that in order to understand that B is correct you have to read the last clause of the stimulus as talking about the exact same data in its uncorrected vs. its corrected forms. If you understand it as saying that you have a set of data that is corrected and then a separate set of data that is uncorrected, I do not think B works.

My explanation for this is as follows: The uncorrected data that is mentioned in the stimulus is necessarily not in line with Jones' theory due to the fact that the corrected data is more in line with the theory. If x is more in line with z than y is, y cannot be perfectly in line with z. Reading the clause like this, the data that is corrected is more in line with Jones' theory than the uncorrected data, but the uncorrected data is still not in line with it. Therefore, B does not tell us anything about why one of these two sets of data (the corrected data) - both of which were not in line with Jones' theory - has now become more in line with Jones' theory than the other one (the uncorrected data). This is because there actually can be no uncorrected data that is line with Jones' theory, due to the fact that the corrected data ends up being closer to Jones' theory than the corrected data.

A potential counterargument that could be made to this is that the corrected data can be said to conflict with Jones' theory, while the uncorrected data neither conflict nor are perfectly in line with Jones' theory. However, assuming this to be true, B is still not correct because, again, it does not tell us anything about the data that is uncorrected.

I initially read the stimulus as talking about two different sets of data, one corrected and one uncorrected - and not the same set in its uncorrected vs. corrected forms. I'm not sure if anyone else made this error, but I hope this helps to clear things up if so.

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joelmpmay141
Saturday, Jul 06 2019

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Fails to reload data

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So sorry for the trouble! We hope we can get this error on our side so we can fix it soon, and we need some more information to figure it out. It looks like that PT is on blind review mode now with answers selected for the third section. Did it start working again, or did you restart to enter answers again? Do you remember what the tester said when it told you to force refresh, and what PT you found the first failure on?

I know that study time is limited, but if you encounter this sort of error again, and are able to let us know instead of deleting the data it would be a huge help in reproducing the problem. And we would likely be able to recover your data so you don't have to manually reenter it.

Hey Alan, thanks for the reply and I apologize for just getting back to you - for some reason I'm just seeing this. Also I'm sorry if I came off harsh in my first comment - I was just upset at the time about being cut off from the PT. What happened with this PT (78) is I just let it sit on the loading page for about 4-5 minutes and eventually it brought up the 3rd section right back to where it had cut me off, and with the same amount of time left.

As for what the tester said, it just immediately flashed to the "Force Refresh" page without much warning. However, one thing that happened with this test and the previous either 2 to 3 (sorry, can't remember exactly) was that every time I would click the arrow to move onto the next question, it would move to that next question, but the page would scroll down to the beginning of the comments section and I would have to scroll back up. This is no longer an issue up to PT 80 and it was not an issue previously in PTs in the late 60s and up to PT 75/76.

The first instance of the test just quitting on me and having to force refresh I believe was on PT 76, but it might have been PT 77.

Thanks again for all the work that you're doing.

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