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Here is the link to check to see if you have all the right components to the system you are using in order to have the system check on test day go smoothly. If everything checks out then I would not worry about it. If something is wrong there is a FAQ section that has many little tips and tricks to use to try and get all systems go, but if that does not work there is a link to connect to a representative of ProctorU to help figure out what is going on with your computer. On test day you will have to have the browser extension and microphone on and camera, and have some security features off, to allow ProctorU to proctor you. I am not sure if you need to have an account, but I signed out of my account and I am still able to test my equipment. i would also recommend using chrome as your browser (recommended by ProctorU) I have also heard problems with people using firefox and or safari, I am not sure if those problems still persist but I have heard of them.

https://go.proctoru.com/testitout

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Friday, May 28 2021

Did you use the correct order of the sections. Almost every time I take an exam through LSAC website the order of the section changes and is not the same as 7sage. Also did you do a flex exam or the 4 section exam? Either way you could have the LRs flipped.

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Friday, Aug 27 2021

I use highlighting. I high light the stem to remind me what stem I am in and then some of the questions that are harder, convoluted and/or long I will use the highlighting to show the conclusion and if I have to sub conclusions and other premises. At first it might me weird and you might think this is a waste of time, however, after a while I did not notice a difference in time 'lost' but I did get an accuracy boost and I never mess up a question stem.

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Tuesday, Jul 27 2021

Hello @ , I agree with @-saint , to me it sounds like a you're experiencing 'burn out' I've been there, a couple times, and so has just about everyone. The consensus is clear on what to do and generally everyone is better off for it. Take a day or two off and completely disconnect from the LSAT. DO something that you enjoy and really forget about the LSAT. The more I am able to disconnect from the LSAT the better I felt and more motivated I was to get back to studying.

A note about your study schedule, it is just an arbitrary schedule, people learn and progress differently. If you are following a pre planned then likely the plan just divided up the amount of material by the date you want to complete it. Plus, you may learn one thing faster than others and you might learn other things slower than others, but on average you'll complete the course in the same amount of time. I use to force myself to study on days I did not want to and that made me not like the LSAT and my score suffered. Now however, when I am not feeling the LSAT, I stop and come back to it the next day. Give your brain a rest.

Quality studying is way better than mediocre studying, I learned this the hard way. 2 hours of great studying is better than 6 hours of mediocre studying. Lastly, if you are still in the CC, then take your time and get the fundamentals down. For whatever your goal score is you'll have to put in the time to get there you'll either put the time in upfront or later when BR'n PTs. I think it is better to get the fundamentals down in the CC first so you do not use up valuable PTs.

The test is learnable, You got this!

Hi,

I'm always confused about these questions. I don't understand if the question is asking you all the potential objects that can belong in the group, or the potential objects in the group in one instance.

For example (Prep Test 43, Question 18): "Which of the following could be a complete and accurate list of each of the office buildings that the falafel tuck serves?"

A. X

B. X, Z

C. X,Y,Z

D. Y,Z

E. Z

A, B, and E can be eliminated based on the fact that the stimulus provides that F must serve Y. The answer is D because the question meant "in one scenario". However, I read it as "all the potential trucks" the Falafel truck could serve. In one possibility, F serves Y,X and in another Y,Z. So potentially, F could serve all 3 leading me to answer choice C.

I'm definitely reading this question wrong. Can someone please explain to me the wording difference between when they ask for all potentials vs. in one possibility?

When on this page, https://classic.7sage.com/lsat-score-percentile-conversion/

scroll down to the chart that has all the different percentiles and pick any number wrong and hover over the scale score so it creates the pop-up box and the number wrong with-in the pop-up box won't match the number wrong on Y-axis.

I Think the problem is because on the Y-axis where it has the -0 row, it is dates instead, so all the numbers are shifted down by one. For example, when you look at say a -20 on PT 89 on the Y-axis and hover over the correlating scaled score, within the pop-up box it will say -19, not -20.

#HELP

#Technical

With us all dedicated to the LSAT and my life seemly is all LSAT for the past year.

I'd like to hear about some of the hobbies/ things you enjoy doing, are doing/will be doing once everything opens back up?

I liked to go trap shooting with my father before Covid hit. Or going snowmobiling out West in the mountains, even though I broke my leg a few years back that required 8 pins in my leg... I also like to go fishing in the gulf and or just getting out on the water and soaking up the sun. I feel like I haven't had any vitamin D since March 2020, because the LSAT and Covid. I feel like I could just grab a bottle of Sunny D and it absorbs through my skin😂😂

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PT131.S2.Q13
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Friday, May 21 2021

PSA

Premise--psychologists have discovered a technique for replacing one's nightmares with pleasant dreams, and have successfully taught it to adults suffering from chronic nightmares.

Premise--Studies have found that nightmare-prone children are especially likely to suffer from nightmares as adults.

Conclusion--thus, psychologists should direct efforts towards identifying nightmare-prone children so that these children can be taught the technique for replacing their nightmares with pleasant ones.

A--incorrect--this would not lead us to the conclusion. we are talking about teaching children a technique that works on adults.

B--incorrect--this would be an assumption that is needed in order for the argument to work, however, this is not a PSA. we need an answer choice that shows why psychologists should do a thing.

C--correct--when this is the case, then it makes sense to help the children to because the children will grow into adults.

D--incorrect--we do not care if it is more difficult or what. we want psychologists to help the kids.

E--incorrect--okay, we do not have any information of what psychologists should not do, only what they should do.

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PT131.S2.Q12
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Friday, May 21 2021

MISC/fill in the blank.

A theoretical framework facilitates the conceptual organization of material and fruitful expansions of research.

Many historians argue that historical analysis is therefore done best within a theoretical framework.

But the past is too complex for all of its main trends to be captured within a theoretical framework

therefore----correct AC

A--incorrect--maybe there is some benefit we just don't know.

B--incorrect--' any other' that is very strong, we know that it does not work best in history.

C--correct--working within a framework is too complex to capture all the main trends. so no matter how good the report is it will not capture all of the main trends.

D--incorrect--word mash here. this would be above the conclusion. not the conclusion.

E--incorrect--well we know that when the work is placed within the framework that it cannot capture all of the main trends, and when it says that when the work is placed within and it cannot capture all of the main trends then it kinda seems that works that are not within the framework can capture all of the main trends. but this is too deep for the question, this AC would just not follow.

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PT131.S2.Q11
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Friday, May 21 2021

RRE--this is like the dramine flawed question. 'people who take dramine for sea sickness still get sick, so dramine does not work.'

Medical research has established that the Beta diet is healthier than a more controversial diet.

But on average, people who have followed the Beta diet for several decades are much more likely to be in poor health than are people whose diet is more conventional.

problem--why is the beta diet considered to be healthier by medical research Yet, people who follow the Beta diet are more likely to be in poor health.

A--incorrect--this does not resolve the problem. this makes the problem worse, if the people who follow the beta diet have better habits and are considered more healthy by doctors, yet the people who follow it are more likely to be in poor health.

B--correct--this diet is used to help the peoples whose health is already poor. the population that uses this, is already starting lower than the general population. it makes sense that the Beta diet over the long term would show that people who follow the diet would be worse health.

C--incorrect--this again confounds the problem

D--incorrect--okay, this would probably be expected to help some more than it would help others.

E--incorrect--this is outside the scope. plus this adds another complication of why docs would recommend this when there is a better alternative.

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PT131.S2.Q9
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Friday, May 21 2021

parallel flaw

perform & admin ---> /member

L/Admin & M/admin----> members

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L & M ---> performers

if you deny the sufficient the rule goes away.

Just because you are not an administrator does not mean you are a performer, the stimulus says that they are not both. Maybe L and M and neither admin nor performer and just a viewer. We cannot deny the sufficient and then conclude the negation.

A--incorrect--this is flawed but not in the same way. maybe they are in the same group that is salaried. some statement rules this out.

B--incorrect-- this follows

C--correct--

C & M--> /HQ

/M

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C. this does not follow. it could be the case but it is not an MBT. just because we do not have the HQ in Mexico does not force us to have it in Canada. We could have it anywhere else as well with the information given. We do not know if it is a biconditional cut of the places where the HQ can or cannot be.

D--incorrect--this follows

E--incorrect--this follows, the min they can have is 5 each so the minimum of the combined boards is 10. it follows.

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PT131.S2.Q8
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Friday, May 21 2021

flaw--. one goes down while the other has gone up(correlation) in the same time period. therefore one must be the replacement of the other(causation)

though ice cream is an excellent source of calcium, dairy farmers report that during the past ten years there has been a sharp decline in ice cream sales.

Premise--And during the same period, sales of cheddar cheese have nearly doubled.

Conclusion--more and more people must be choosing to increase their intake of calcium by eating cheddar cheese rather than ice cream.

there is an inverse correlation between ice cream and cheddar cheese. does this mean that people are choosing cheddar as their intake of calcium, no.

Must is a very strong word in the conclusion. why must people be eating cheese instead of ice cream to increase their calcium? what if they just like cheese for cheese?

A--incorrect--this is not the flaw, though they failed to provide the data.

B--correct--the decline of the sales could be for a number of reasons. not just the reason that people are choosing cheddar cheese over ice cream for their calcium intake.

C--incorrect--no the farmers, as far as we know, have no incentive to lie about ice cream sales declining and cheese sales increasing.

D--incorrect--the statement in the stimulus is not relative, it is just stating the ice cream is an excellent source of calcium. Maybe cheese is a better source. we do not know. plus this is not the flaw. this would be like saying, calcium is a good source of calcium, so is milk and so is ice cream. Icecream takes the best out of those three so ice cream is the best source of calcium. we cannot just assume that because it tastes better it is a better source. maybe the negatives of ice cream make another source a better option.

E--incorrect--this is strong. never. the argument does not do this. people could still be eating ice cream but not for the purpose of getting their calcium. the argument does not make the two groups mutually exclusive.

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PT131.S2.Q6
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Friday, May 21 2021

flaw

throw away--Although Jaaks is a respected historian,

conclusion--her negative review of Yancey's new book on the history of coastal fisheries in the region rests on a mistake.

Premise--Jaak's review argues that the book inaccurately portrays the lives of fishery workers.

premise--Yancy used the same research methods in this book as in her other histories which have been very popular.

Premise--this book is also very popular in local bookstores.

flaw--uses popularity as a justification for someone's critique of inaccurate research

A--incorrect--no, 'respected historian' tends to give rise to that they are not unqualified. plus this is not the flaw committed in the argument.

B--incorrect--this is not an ad hominem attack.

C--correct--it uses the idea that the book is popular to indicate the critique of accuracy is not warranted. that does not work. the book could be extremely flawed in its research and still be popular.

D--incorrect--what is the general conclusion? we have no indication that the local bookstores are an unrepresentative sample.

E--incorrect--no this is not presumed we have no indication of what would produce accurate results, we just know that a claim of inaccuracy was made by a respected historian, and the reason given on why the claim is wrong is because the book is popular.

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Friday, May 21 2021

Strengthen

Gilbert--Conclusion--this food label is mistaken.

Premsie--It says that these cookies contain only natural ingredients, but they contain alpha-hydroxy acids that are chemically synthesized by the cookie company at the plant.

Sabrina--conclusion--this food label is not mistaken.

Sabrina--alpha-hydroxy acids also are found to occur naturally in sugarcane.

A--incorrect--this would weaken the idea that the food label is not mistaken because the cookies no longer contain that ingredient.

B--incorrect--this would weaken the idea that the food label is not mistaken because maybe this ingredient is not actually in the food.

C--incorrect--this would again weaken the idea that the food label is not mistaken, because if there is a different ingredient than what is listed, then the food label is not accurate.

D--incorrect--okay, this does not help us with this specific case. Plus even if we accepted this as true, the same objections Gilbert raised would still be valid here, the argument would get nowhere.

E--correct--this would strengthen the argument. a substance has to not occur anywhere naturally to be considered not natural. this would help Sabrina's argument. because alpha is found in some places naturally. this AC added to the fact the alpha does occur naturally would support Sabrina's stance.

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PT131.S2.Q4
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Friday, May 21 2021

flaw/descriptive weakening

While studying centuries-old Antarctic ice deposits, I found that several years of relatively severe atmospheric pollution in the 1500s coincided with a period of relatively high global temperatures.

Conclusion--so it is clear in this case that atmospheric pollution did cause global temperatures to rise.

A--incorrect--this is not the flaw in the argument. the flaw is correlation causation.

B--incorrect--the sample would seem to be representative of the 1500s. the conclusion seems to be found, it is how the conclusion was drawn, not the fact that it was drawn.

C--incorrect--like B, it does not generalize inappropriately it talks about the 1500s and an ice sample from that time. However, it is how the conclusion was drawn. It takes two phenomena that are correlated and drawn a causal relationship.

D--incorrect--we have no reason to believe that the method was not reliable.

E--correct--correlation causation.

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PT131.S2.Q3
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Friday, May 21 2021

MSS

Despite the enormous number of transactions processed daily by banks nowadays, if a customer's bank account is accidentally credited with a large sum of money, it is extremely unlikely that the error will not be detected by the bank's internal audit.

A--correct--this is basically double-checking one's work for the day. plus it says specifically double-checking 'large transactions'

B--incorrect--this does not matter because this is about banks making mistakes in crediting accounts, not people trying to pull a fast one over on the bank.

C--incorrect--how would sending a monthly statement help the bank check each day if they made a mistake??

D--incorrect--yes, the average ratio has increased, however, we do not know if just a couple of large banks are the ones that are getting the workers because it says average and averages can be skewed.

E--incorrect--the stim, was not talking about hacking it was talking about the bank itself making a mistake.

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PT131.S2.Q2
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Friday, May 21 2021

Conclusion--Price-- A corporation's primary responsibility is to its shareholders.

P--premise--they are its more important constituency because they take the greatest risks. If the corporation goes bankrupt, they lose their investment.

A--Premise--shareholders have diversified investment portfolios.

A-- employees, however, the well-being of the corporation for which they have chosen to work represents their very livelihood.

A--conclusion--corporation's primary responsibility should be to the workers.

Disagree over the shareholders should be primary or the workers should be primary.

A--incorrect--they would both agree.

B--incorrect--they would both agree. like A we are looking for the degree they care for the employees.

C--incorrect--i would assume that both agree. but who should get first crack at the money they would likely disagree.

D--correct--they would disagree about this, one would say the investment is the most at stake the other would say that it is the people whose livelihood is on the line.

E--incorrect--I would imagine that they would both agree, though this is an extreme case.

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PT131.S2.Q1
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Friday, May 21 2021

Strengthen

On the Caribbean island of G, a researcher examined 35 patients with atypical Parkinson's disease and compared their eating habits to those of 65 healthy adults.

Premise--She found that ll of the patients with atypical Parkinsons's regularly ate the tropical fruits soursop, crusted apple, and promme, whereas only 10 of the healthy adults regularly ate these fruits.

Conclusion--she concluded that eating these fruits causes atypical Parkinson's.

A--correct--this helps show that the fruits are correlated with the health when the causes is there the effect is there and when the cause is not there the effect is not there.

B--incorrect--we do not care if they ate the fruit once, in the stim, we are told that the Parkinson's people ate the fruit regularly.

C--incorrect--this would weaken the argument, this is indicating that maybe it is not the fruit but some other factor/other hypotheses.

D--incorrect--again this would weaken the argument because the evidence given is that the fruit is the factor that is contributing to Parkinson's, but if the healthy people ate more of the Parkinson's causing factor then it is less likely that it is the fruit.

E--incorrect--well maybe it is these 'vitamins' that are correlated with the Parkinson's and, who care if there are vitamins that are in the fruit that are not in the normal diet, maybe they don't need the victims or they can get the vitamins from another source.

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PT152.S4.Q23
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Saturday, May 15 2021

RRE

An antitheft device involving an electronic homing beacon has been developed for use in tracking stolen automobiles.

Phenomenon--Although its presence is undetectable to a car thief and so does not directly deter theft, its use greatly increases the odds of apprehending even the most experienced car thieves.

Phenomenon---the device is not yet used by a large percentage of car owners, but in cities where only a small percentage of car owners have the device installed, auto thefts have dropped dramatically.

Problem-why is it that the auto thefts have dropped so much yet the device is not used in that many vehicles?

A--incorrect--this is probably factual however, this does not help us resolve why auto thefts have dropped dramatically.

B--incorrect--this would make the probe even worse, in cities that on average have less car thefts, saw their car thefts fall even farther.. this only makes the problem worse.

C--incorrect--okay but how does this explain that there are very few on the homing device and yet auto theft has dropped dramatically?

D--incorrect--okay, but still this does not resolve the problem, few devices and dramatic drop in auto theft.

E--correct--if only a few people are stealing the vast majority f car then it is likely that they stile one with the device and were busted, and since they were a huge operation that dropped the stolen car rate down, for example, if every 10 cars stolen by the big operation only 1 car was stolen by a small set up. So the accounts for the few honing devices because if there are few cars with the device but you are stealing the majority of the car then you are more likely to steal a car with the device, and also if you do steal a car with the device you are more likely to get caught and if they catch the one guy then they stopped a 10 to 1 ratio.

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PT152.S4.Q22
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Saturday, May 15 2021

weaken

Conclusion/hypothesis--gifts of cash or gift cards, which allow the recipient to choose the actual gift, are more highly valued by the recipients than are gifts chosen for them by others.

Premsie/phenomenon--In a study, when people were asked how much they would have been willing to pay for the gifts chosen for them by others, they responded by citing amounts that were on average only bout two-thirds of the actual price of the gifts.

A--incorrect--maybe this is because more companies are now allowing people to return gifts. there could be many reasoning for this correlation. this however does not weaken the idea that people value cash or gift cards more than when people pick out gifts for them.

B--incorrect--okay this is just a snapshot of who the world is not, this does not weaken the idea that people prefer cash or gift cards more than when people pick out gifts for them.

C--incorrect--this is bringing in a new point that would make the problem confounded, is it the family member that is making the person want to pay more? however, this does not weaken the argument. this makes it more confusing but this does not weaken the assumption because people will only pay two-thirds for the gift that means they prefer cash or gift cards.

D--correct--this gets at the assumption that people do not value the gift that much as indicated that they would only have paid two-thirds for the gift. However if it was true that they did not value the gift that much then they would be willing to part with the gift for cost or less than cost right? yes, however this answer choice is not allowing for that to happen saying that the people receiving the gift will only part with it for 150% of what it cost indicating that they value the gift.

E--incorrect--this is random information about retailers. this is about returning gifts and our argument is about people valuing cash/gift cards over gifts bought from others and this does not play a role.

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PT152.S4.Q21
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Saturday, May 15 2021

main conclusion

conclusion--If you use a wood stove to heat your home, you should use a wood pellet stove rather than a regular wood stove.(why)?

Premise--wood pellets are made from by-products of manufacturing processes that would otherwise go to landfills, heating a home with a wood-pellet stove will not cause more trees to be felled.

Premise--The same cannot be said for regular wood stoves.

Sub-subconclusion--wood pellet stoves are better for the environment than are regular wood stoves.

E--correct--

does the last sentence support the first or does the first support the last??

wood stoves are better for the environment because you should heat your home with wood pellets rather than regular wood. this does not make any sense... the first sentence is the conclusion.

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PT152.S4.Q20
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Saturday, May 15 2021

MBT

Conclusion--coming up with secure passwords for confidential computer files is difficult.

Premise--users prefer passwords that are easy to remember, such as birth dates or relatives' names.

Premise--Unfortunately, these are the easiest to guess for an outsider who wants to gain access to valuable information.

Premise--Random configurations of letters and numbers are the hardest to guess, but these are also the easiest for legitimate users to forget.

Premise--Users who forget their passwords use up the system administrator's time; furthermore, passwords that are very difficult to remember are generally written down by users, and hence pose the greatest security threat of all.

A--incorrect--yes this is accurate, however, this is not a must be true. We just don't have a condition to trigger when people should not write down their passwords. we know that it is a bad idea, however, maybe there is a possibility that there is a time when we should write down the passwords.

B--incorrect--we know that it uses up the administrator's time, however, we cannot assume that is it expensive, maybe the whole point of their job is to help people with their passwords. then it seems like they would already be factored into the price.

C--correct--this is a must be true because of 'written down... and hence pose the greatest security threat of all.'

D--incorrect--this is not true these are the passwords that people will sometimes write down and from the stimulus that is a big no-no. and those types of passwords pose a huge security threat.

E--incorrect--this is too general, we were told that the easy passwords pose a threat because they are easy to guess. so they definitely pose a security threat.

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PT152.S4.Q19
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Saturday, May 15 2021

Evaluate-

phenomenon hypothesis structure. find an AC where the hypothesis is weakened and supported based on one extreme of the answer versus the other extreme of the answer.

Premise--European wood ants incorporate large quantities of solidified conifer resin into their nests.

Premsie--Conifer resin is a natural disinfectant that has been shown to kill strains of bacteria that can cause disease in wild ants.

conclusion--the wood ants' use of conifer resin probably came about as a disease-protection measure.

A--incorrect--if it did have disinfectant properties over a long period of time or a short period of time would not weaken or strengthen the argument. so this is not the correct answer.

B--incorrect--what if during different times of the year the level on conifer resin did change? this would no weaken nor strengthen the argument. neither would if the resin stayed the same throughout the year.

C--incorrect--this does not help weaken or strengthen. it almost makes the problem more profound because many ants do this, is it then used for the same reason for all the different ants?

D--correct--if there are structural advantages then the idea that the conifer is for bacteria protection is weakened, however, if the conifer not for structural purposes then the idea that the conifer is for bacteria protection is strengthened.

E--incorrect--who cares where the properties come from, we are talking about a case where the properties are already there. this is outside the scope. the way we are talking about conifer it does not matter where the bacterial properties come from because the ants are already using the conifer, however, if we were talking about how to categorize conifer, then maybe if it came from a tree or like a smaller plant would paly into the analysis.

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Friday, May 14 2021

MSS

one's belief of X and X itself.

etiquette helps people to get along with each other.

For example, it prevents people from inadvertently offending one another.

While many people criticize etiquette because they believe it has no beneficial effects on society, these same people think that kindness and social harmony are good.

A--incorrect--we do not know if the people who criticize etiquette have contradictory views. they believe it to be the case, they may be wrong, but as of now, they are not contradictory, we do not know the reasoning of why they believe it to be the case, so it is hard to label them as having contradictory views about something when we have not groundwork laid to show whether or not that people who critique etiquette have contradictory views about it.

B--incorrect--we have no idea if they respect etiquette or not. The stimulus does not cue us into whether the people who criticize etiquette respect it.

C--correct--here we have people who believe that the world would be good if there was harmony and kindness, so here I think the author is showing that these are not like anarchists or people who want to see the world burn, so they can appreciate something that would promote kindness and social harmony. so the people who think kindness and social harmony are good also believe that etiquette has no beneficial effects when yet it promotes harmony and kindness. and 'mistaken' is a gentle way to phrase that they might be wrong. and beliefs can be mistaken, this is a better phrasing than AC A.

D--incorrect--we have no indication this is supported...

E--incorrect--we do not know if they are highly beneficial, it seems to me that for the sake of the argument we are assuming them to be. not that they actually are or not.

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Monday, Jun 14 2021

@ thank you for the kinds words! the comment that @ was talking about is from @.

Hello, about a week ago I posed a discussion about my process on getting to -0(link below). Today I came across a game that is really good to know. PT 63 S2 G1. This is an IN/OUT game that has 3 questions that play on the same inference. This is the inference when in grouping games a category (group) is filled up all the other pieces have to fit in the other groups. To go -0 consistently I think we have to be sensitive to this rule every time we encounter a grouping game. This is a really easy game that you should be able to do in under 5 minutes, however, I would recommend doing this game and try not to think about the inference 'when one group is full then all the other pieces have to fit into the other group' and see how fast you can complete it, then do the game with the inference in mind, obviously, you'll be faster the second time because you will have already seen it once, but just think about that inference. I did this game with one game board and just moved the pieces around in my head. I also for all games, especially this game I would scan the answer choices before 'brute' forcing my way through them, the answers just pop for this and I recommend scanning the answers on each question before you start mapping the question, many time there is an obvious answer.

For those people who are just starting games or for those where you know you could improve in games I would recommend keeping track of all the games that gave you any sort of trouble and write why it gave you trouble after a while you will see a pattern and then you can attack the weakness and not let it trip you up anymore. I have a template of how I set up my google sheet(free to copy/use it) and my discussion on my process for going -0: here ---> https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/27505/link-to-google-slides-that-many-have-been-asking-for-i-explain-my-process-to-0-lg

I forget who, but earlier today someone posted about dreaming about logic games, this is one of those style games that I would think about in my head before going to be and sometime I would 'live out' this game in my dream.

I hope this helps someone, I posted it because I wish I would have known this and practiced this inference earlier in my studies.

Best of Luck,

Kole

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I don't recommend breaking fresh lsats but if you do not plan on taking all the PTs then here is a good game to know.

I have had 7Sagers reach out regarding LG and many of them are at the -4/-5 range. A common thing I am seeing is that they are not BRing like they were in the beginning. BRing take on another role in LG once we have been doing it for a while. Yes when you are many PTs in and you can do sequencing games in BR at 100% accuracy what's the point of spending the extra time? The extra time put in is to help you speed up and make inferences even faster and thus allowing more time on harder games. Treat the simple games like you would the more difficult because you can get faster and maybe you can shave 10 seconds then 30 then 40 seconds off the easy games by seeing them and working them over to get everything out of them. Maybe this comes from knowing pressure points better and being able to cross out answer before even trying them. Or just setting up 1 master game board and because you are so proficient at the game now you would not need to draw another game board and you can see the answers "in your mind's eye" and if there is time after completing the section you can do double check. Just because we can complete the easy games at the time recommended does not mean we should ease up on the intensity of the game. If it is a simple sequencing and all the rules make one chain and it only has 5 questions I can do it between 3-3:30 with 100% and this allows me to gain 1 full minute or more to work on the harder games to come, and sometimes the extra seconds and minutes we bank on the easy is the difference between -0 and -3. This is because the set up normally takes X amount of time regardless of the number of questions. For example you are in the last game and there are 6 questions left and you have ten minutes. Set up takes 4 minutes because its a hard game and you did a partial split, now there is only 6 minutes for 6 questions, not a bad scenario, until there is not a single question that gives you an extra rule to work with now those extra 2 minutes would allow you to get to the last 2ish questions.

I realize that is an extreme example but I hear it all the time, "if I only had 2 more minutes." Plus having extra time going into games allows us to relax and not make mistakes because of our test day anxiety and feeling rushed.

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kkole44474
Saturday, Jul 10 2021

Conclusion--if the work had been done on a different day then I would have gotten to the meeting on time. Well, we do not know this is the case. where you going to be late anyways and the construction is just an excuse?

Say for example even on the best-est of days for travel into the office one needs to arrive 20 minutes early to get to the office on time, then the fact that you arrived only 15minutes early and there was also construction does not mean the construction was the reason you were late, because if the construction was there or not you would have been late regardless.

so this leads me to ask the question what is it like when the construction was not there?

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Saturday, Jul 10 2021

the reason that A is strengthening, is because it is blocking a competing hypothesis.

In the stimulus, the author is saying that more iron----correlated---more likely to get Parkinson compared to individuals whose diet contain less iron. therefore people should avoid these foods and thus reduce one's chance of contracting the disease. (causation conclusion).

How do we weaken correlation causation conclusions? first, we could say, Parkinsons causes higher iron, which would ruin the relationship(reverse the causation, if we deny this it'd strengthen the argument).

Next we could say that something causes high iron and Parkinsons, such as a genetic predisposition, if this genetic predisposition causes both Parkinsons and high iron then the argument that iron causes Parkinson's is ruined because another factor causes both.This is what AC A, uses to strengthen the argument. AC A is not allowing this relationship and thus not allowing that weakness to be there, and making the conclusion more likely to happen. AC A is saying, the people with the genetic predisposition (other factor contributing to both A&B) do not differ in the amount of iron they have, so it is not this other factor causing both high iron and Parkinsons disease, so it is more likely that high iron does in fact contribute to Parkinsons, and thus strengthing the argument by blocking a competing hypothesis.

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Wednesday, Jul 07 2021

Hello,

knowing what to do and your plan of attack on different question types makes you more accurate and faster.

The easy questions are testing you on the same thing the harder questions are testing you on and vice versa, the difference is usually how subtle the assumption and how abstract the language and topic. However, the process of doing a weakening question does not change because it is harder or weaker the process of finding the assumption between the premise and conclusion still holds and picking an answer choice that weakens the assumption leading to making the conclusion less likely to happen is still going to be the correct answer. Learning the common arguments the LSAT uses on different question types and the common wrong answers will help as well. For example, a lot of weakening questions will use the phenomenon/ hypothesis set up and then the conclusion will be the authors explanation of why/how the phenomenon happened, common answer choices would be correlation/causation, temporal correlation, groups versus sub group confusion, when phenomenon is not present the effect is not present. these are some of the common answers you'll get on a weakening questions, sometimes one of these will be the correct answer and other times they will be the attractive wrong answer, it is good to know what each one looks like so you can quickly select or eliminate answers.

Also, one must have a mastery over identifying the premise and conclusion, how are you able to weaken an argument if you cannot identify the conclusion? How are you going to find the gap when one cannot see where the gap is? you can't. Look at the easy questions because the common answer choices are easier to see relative to the harder questions and start to identify the patterns the LSAC employs. Another Q type where they repeat ACs is flaw they repeat ACs there a lot.

Just in general doing more Qs will help you be better at the harder questions, the harder questions are just dressed up easy questions with a few extra layers of difficulty. the LSAC varies the level of difficulty by: topic, grammar, length, how abstract, and how attractive ACs are, for the most part, what lies underneath all the layers is the same, there is a gap in the argument that needs something done to it depending on what the Q stem wants.

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Tuesday, Jul 06 2021

Hello @ Doing 1-2 from the low 80s then a 1-3 from the low-mid 70s towards the beginning of the PT phase so I get a look and a feel to how the exam is different from the exams from 1-60. In addition after BR of the exams, and after more PTs it is recommended to go over past wrong answers try and find a trend and sure up when went wrong with the answer. When you do this you are still seeing newer-style questions while you are working in the 50s and 60s, so it is not a 'culture' shock when you go from the 50/60s to PTs in the high 80s.

Some people say the change is not that big others say is has a significant impact on there score, but I have found that getting like 5ish from the 70s and 80s gets a good base and people can see the difference from those and the other PTs they will take from the 40-60s.

Hello I am looking for a couple of people to meet 1-3sh times per week to BR together. The last 5 exams i scored between 165-169. I am looking for a few people of similar score level or if you are exceptional at RC (0-4 wrong consistently). My strengths are LG and LR and weakness is RC. I would like the people who join to have their strength as RC and weakness as LG or LR so we can complement each other.

I'm EST time but anytime from 10amish --- 8pm ish I would be free to zoom/google meeting/facetime. I am taking the June exam and will be using PTs 85, 86, 87, 89, and May2020. And we can also BR games LR Qs you have trouble with and we'll do the same for RC I struggle with that are not from the PTs we BR. I am friendly and like to joke around and keep things lite hearted, but June is the last LSAT for me so I will make sure we stay on track get our work done then joke around/talk everything else.

DM me or post on here. And I will give my email or cell phone whatever you're comfortable with.

----> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BP1NnndhE5i6cbuF2GLPetUgzwtr3rUaDfEZuaIJXhE/edit#gid=0

The google sheet I made has every Core curriculum game in it(I believe) and broken down by color for each question type, plus a few games along the way I kept to keep my skills fresh(to the right). Once I started to keep track of the questions and what I did wrong, for example if I missed an inference I would write down the game and what I did wrong and also the inference that I missed, the number of questions I miss dramatically decreased.

I would mark down every game that I had the slightest struggle with or that I did not feel 100% comfortable with. I would also color code the games that I got a question wrong with or went over by 0:45 (red) plus I'd note if it was one question, setup or just slow overall.

I would code the ones I got correct and undertime but did not feel comfortable yellow.

I would code the one I got correct, undertime, and feel comfortable green.

On the sheets if you scroll down you will find the CC games by question type. If you scroll to the right you will see the games from actual exams and games from 1-35. I left some games here to show you how I coded them and put them in descending order, I deleted a bunch because I had lots of inner dialog that was not PG rated to help remember certain things, but the categories are there and so is the color coordination of the ones I got wrong.

I would appreciate that everyone who wants to use it just copy it to there drive to start working on personalizing it so it does not mess up the original.

I also made a list of the LR questions that I would use to keep notes about certain styles(someone deleted my notes working on getting them back) and what to look for on those particular style questions along with a color code system of priority and difficulty.

I also would put words I came across studying that I did not know at the bottom with their definitions.

Lastly there might be a few swear words I did not get rid of...

I hope people find this as useful as I did and kick the LSAT's ASS!

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Where are you at -4? (-15where I started?)

I would keep track of every single game that gave you any sorts of trouble and also note what it was that gave you the trouble: setup, inference, rule, question, ect...

I would start with the games you are somewhat good at I would assume sequencing since that is the common one people grasp first, and I would get these games down then move to the next 'pure' form of a game grouping pure, in/out basic. And work on the fundamentals of those then once you feel comfortable with those branch out on what ever is your worst/give you the most trouble.

Have to know when rules trigger versus when they don't and the 4 groups.

Sufficient

Necessary

Negate Sufficient

Negate Necessary

(I don't think one can go -2/-0 if they do not have a strong grasp of this).

--I would try and get comfortable with as many game types as possible before PT'n because fresh PT's are a non renewable resource. However that said, if you plan on taking the exam in a few months and know you wont take any exam after, then I would start in the 60's. and then jump to the 70's once I start to get comfortable with the LSAT jump to the 80s.

--Drilling: I would do about 4 games per day everyday. I would not recommend too many more than that because then its likely we just burn up games. At first I would do 2 new games from PT 1-35 and as I got closer to -0 around --4/6ish (depending on score goal & time frame)I would start PTing

--Do not be afraid of redoing games you've done before, as long as you do not specifically remember the inferences and answer choices its okay to keep redoing the games. if you do happen to remember the AC's put that in a new category on the google sheet or color code it so you know to come back. I have learned that the LSAT implies the same tricks 95% of the time and once you have the bones of the structure you can build any style structure.

----timing help make many if not all of the critical inferences up front(try to) or at least be aware of them if they need to map them out for a question. Learning when to split I think is more of an art form I normally stick with the general rule less, game boards than questions excluding the acceptable situation question. Tune your approach to you, you know yourself the best. I normally do a partial spilt on pure grouping because I personally hate them more than any other game type.

-- super important to combine rules into chains and see what comes from that, always push the new rules up to the old rules and see if any inferences drop out.

---Keep track of the words that indicate different style games such as:

--sequencing will normally use words like--before, after, ahead, behind, IN front of, between; these normally indicate sequencing. Selecting, placing, combining, are going to be grouping games.

--Paring groups Xs & Ys together is likely going to be a double layer sequencing. matching witnesses to police interviewers or another dreadful one books to bookshelves.

--only having two categories is going to be in/out EX. I have 2 floors and I have to select which employees are going to be on which. Or the once dreadful (some will get it) assigning photographers to two different schools, or doctors to 2 different hospitals. In out is a grouping game, however it is a grouping game with only 2 groups. A common inference in this style game is once one category is full then all the other pieces have to go into the other category and the common correct ACs in the piece that makes one category too full, or a game piece always has to be in the same category.

---grouping---placing pieces into categories EX bones to time periods

---once you are able to identify the games quickly it allows you to setup the game board fast and in turn makes you faster in LG.

---keep going back to old games that gave you trouble.

--start watching/tracking question types that you should look at all the answer choices before starting to eliminate ACs because many times its a super obvious AC. or look for ACs that should be tried first you do not need to eliminate A first and so on eliminate (or try to) pick ones that look suspicious. EX on sequencing a common trick they like to employ wrong ACs is by having followers in the leader spots and the leaders in follower spots many sequencing questions/games employ this and it is easy to spot once you're made aware and this increase the chance of a correct answer and the speed at which you can get through questions.

grouping they like to ask which piece must be in or must be out, is easy when you know the

A----->/B (both cannot be in)but they can both be out --fail sufficient rule falls away

A/---->B( both can be in) but both cannot be out.

A(---)B forever together

A(---)/B forever apart

((((if this does not make sense keep going through the CC or go back to the CC)))))

---if you get to a game and the setup is giving you trouble Skip the game. this is one of the best lessons I have learned. SKIP SKIP SKIP move on get the low hanging fruit then come back and you'll be more relaxed and see the game from 'fresh' eyes. especially when first starting out because you'll be slower generally.

--- do not (force yourself) to not let the past question affect the next question and do not let the last game effect the next game. chances are if you struggle with the game many other people will too, and the other games will make up for that or the curve will.

--Be honest with yourself, do not give yourself little cheats here or there because those will be crutches and you won't get those on the exam this is true when drilling in a less extent but this is mandatory when practice testing.

--Blind review is the biggest advantage on the LSAT you can give yourself. take it just as serious you are taking the actual exam, this is where you will notice (if done properly) mistakes that you make undertime make sure to keep track of them so you can work on them and not repeat them. this is true for every section of the exam.

--I have more of a math oriented brain so LG came way easier than RC. that being said find things to do in the off time to increase you analytical skills: sudoku, rush hour,(try and get the odd color block out through a particular spot by moving all the other blocks around it)apps/games order/number sequences, of shape matching/finding the similarities between things in pictures or words. Doing these style games will workout the part of the brain LG calls on. I found these games to be super fun when I was a kid, maybe that is why I like LG.

---Positive Attitude is key. If you go into games with 'ughh this sucks' or 'ill never get this' 1) it'll make studying that much worse. 2) you will start making stupid mistakes and the cycle will repeat.

---Burnout is real, take breaks when needed. I learned a panful lesson on this, 2 hours of quality studying beat 6 hours of mediocre studying---many hours wasted, and it just compounds on itself.

You got this I believe it, you have already taken the initiative and spent the money, You can do it!

-Kole

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