Haha yes that would happen to me!! And oddly it would be combined with a show or something I watched the night before...like I would wake up in the middle of the night with my brows furrowed, thinking about this Game of Thrones logic game...and then it realizing I made it up!

For #10, answer choice E seemed like the only plausible option yet I took issue with the fact that it talked about "family names" as opposed to "personal" names. To me those are two very different things, family names referring to your last name and which is typically shared by an entire family, and "personal" name referring to your first name and given name at birth. I assumed Levi-Strauss' argument was referring only to personal first names.

Just wanted to comment that I have the exact same problem! I've plateaued on my PT's at 156-159 and would love to get a 160 on September LSAT! Been doing 2-3 PT's per week, with blind review in between, and still not improving. RC is also my worst section. It's very make or break for me, on my best days I can manage a -7, on my worst days I've gotten as bad as -14! So I need all the advice I can get as well. Anyway good luck on your studying!

That is absolutely amazing! Keep up the great work!

I honestly wanted to walk out after doing the LG section. I lost all drive or motivation to do the rest of the test because I completely bombed LG. It seemed unusually difficult for the first two games and definitely experimental. Normally I can get three games in, but I barely did the first and by the second game I almost broke down in tears.

My fluctuations were really bad. I was PT'ing around 153 and I ended up getting a 143 on the LSAT in July. Kept doing practice tests for a few more weeks until September and was scoring between 153-163. Actual LSAT in September I got a 157.

Wow that's amazing! Thank you for sharing your story. How long did it take you to start PT'ing in the 160's after your diagnostic?

Scored 10 points below my average PT. Granted I knew I wasn't ready for July LSAT and took it mainly because of the ability to cancel, but wow. Just wow. I kept staring at my score like I was hallucinating. I cancelled it the second I saw it, didn't have to think much about it LOL. I'll have a good cry and then get back to studying...

Congrats to all that achieved the score you wanted!

Quote for any of you that are disappointed with your score: "If you want to increase your success rate, double your failure rate." -Thomas J. Watson

Ugh I seriously can't stand the anxiety of waiting for tomorrow...I am registered for September LSAT just in case this one didn't go well. I don't think I have the heart to do a practice test or study today knowing that there is a small chance I can put this all behind me tomorrow!!

I am very interested in this discussion because I am in exactly the same boat as you. I had an undergrad GPA of 2.8, simply because I wasn't focused and went through some rough patches. I've been in the workforce now for 6 years (I'm 28 years old) and managed to get good work references. Naively I took the LSAT last November with very little study and got a 144. I'm looking to get between a 160-165. It's going to be hard work but I know I can do it. I wanted to take the March LSAT so I could apply for this cycle, however now I realize I won't achieve my full potential so I decided I am going to take it in September. It sucks having to put off what you want to do for another year, but I think in the end it will be worth it. I think since you are looking to get into a T1 or T2 school that you should consider doing the same.

Do you have any tips on how you achieved to get your score in the 160's for PT's? How long did you study for? I need all the motivation I can get.

I had the exact same thing happen to me on the July LSAT of this year. I was PT'ing in the 151-153 range and I ended up getting a 143. Not only was it almost 10 points below my average, but it was actually WORSE than when I took the LSAT in Nov of 2018 before I started studying using 7Sage. Needless to say I was extremely confused, because like you, I felt energized, alert, and not terribly anxious. I felt deflated when I saw my score and wanted to give up. But I kept going. Less than two months later I took the Sept LSAT and just found out I got a 157. I was shocked because I had one hour of sleep max, was anxiety-ridden, and had the notorious LG section that completely screwed my morale up for the rest of the exam.

I guess my point is not to take your score as a reflection of your ability. If you are PT'ing in 153-157 range, then it is in your ability to get that score for the October LSAT, even if it is only a couple weeks away. There are many factors that can affect our test scores without us even being consciously aware of them. Do practice tests like usual, but also focus on improving your mindset and not forgetting to take care of yourself. That is what I did between the July and September tests. Also don't overload yourself with PT's, I find my score improves the most when I give myself a mental break. Don't picture yourself getting a bad score in October. Picture the ideal end result, stay positive and good things will happen! Good luck!

Hello everyone! I really enjoyed last night's webinar. I was particularly interested in their take on "splitters" and non-traditional applicants, which is what I consider myself to be. I had a not-so-great college GPA but worked successfully in a industry for several years but am now looking for career change. I'm aiming for a 160+ LSAT score. I also found it extremely interesting to hear their take on the impact of personal statements!

I would recommend the "Personal Statement- Outlining and Drafting" lessons, and in particular "Essay Templates". It makes it easy to narrow down what you want to focus on in your essay.

Annoyed because I got this one wrong only because I didn't read the correct AC properly. I read E as "Native speakers' perception of their own language are MORE accurate", not "NOT more accurate". Reading for detail is something I struggle with a lot and definitely need to improve.

I was thinking the EXACT same thing today. In the last few PT's I've been really good at LG's but my RC and LR were really suffering so I drilled the heck out of those. Today I took a PT and really improved my RC and LR scores but my LG score was unusually bad. So I actually didn't improve at all. The "whack-a-mole" analogy is really accurate lol.

I've given myself a few weeks off from studying to work on admissions essays. After studying for almost a year, I don't think I'll suddenly forget all logic! I am registered for the October LSAT just in case the September one went horribly wrong - and after that crazy logic games section, I am really glad I have a backup. Really anxious to get my score back, but I've focused a lot on my overall well-being and mindset these last few weeks, so if I bombed the test I will just have to take a deep breath (after a good cry) and do it again.

I just wanted to say that I completely feel for you, having been in the same situation of feeling hopeless/incompetent/not smart enough, etc. I spent the majority of my high school and college days focused on all the wrong things and having low self-esteem, and as a result I barely graduated college and got a degree that I discovered was not very relevant in the real world. I took me 5 years out of college to realize that I was tired working a lame job and that it was time for me to finally buckle down and take the LSAT, as going to law school was an idea I had toyed with for years but always told myself I was wasn't good enough for.

I studied what I thought was an acceptable amount at the time, about a month and a half before the test (how naive of me lol) I got a 144. Once again, I gave up and told myself I wasn't good enough, and this was proof. And then I realized that I had never given it my all. I started doing more research and discovered there were people that were so dedicated they took all the practice tests LSAC ever released (I took 2). There were people that studied for years in order the achieve the score they wanted. And here I was complaining and wallowing in my misery about my low score. Well, that's because I didn't actually try very hard and that's why. Yes, there are people that are naturally better at logic games but I was the kind of person that never picked up a strategy game or puzzle in my life so naturally I would have to work harder at it.

I ended up taking this year off from work to study full-time. I admit there are many times that I goofed off, binged watched Netflix, had a good cry about what I was doing with my life. But I think what worked for me is just having the mental discipline to just sit down and study, whether I felt motivated or not. Every day that I study, I almost feel slapped in the face when it takes me half an hour to do one logic game, and I want to give up. But having a growth mentality is key, and understanding that you are capable of anything you put your mind to. Your abilities are not set in stone. You won't always feel motivated, but discipline to do what is necessary is what will get you through this. Know that you're not alone. Know that you are capable. Set a study schedule and stick to it. And of course reward yourself a little everyday with what makes you happy, for me that's a little bit of Netflix at night and some ice cream. And the next day, get right back into it. Let's do this together! :)

Honestly I remember feeling the same way when I went through the CC a few months ago. I also have the Ultimate + package. But remember that those last few sets are meant to be very challenging, as they are usually level 4 or 5 difficulty. Doing the CC is just the beginning of your LSAT journey. The goal is not to achieve mastery of all the concepts, but to know how to solve the different questions correctly. Once you start taking PT's, that knowledge you gained during the CC will begin to solidify. You may not even see an improvement in your PT scores right after finishing the CC, if you took a cold diagnostic test initially. I am still really struggling with difficult SA and NA type questions on PT's, not because I don't know how to solve them, but because doing them in less than 2 minutes can be extremely challenging for me. But I hold out hope that through PT's and blind review, I will begin to solve these questions much faster! So don't expect perfection on practice sets, they are just there to help you get familiar with the concepts and question types. The real learning comes from practice tests and review!