@ can you pm me too please

Another big thing that really helped me was id'ing what the assumption/gap was in the argument BEFORE going into the answer choices. (especially for strengthening, weakening, SA, NA, Flaw) I used to let the answer choices lead me, and I often fell for trap choices. Try to practice having a pre-phrase of the correct answer in mind (even if it requires reading the stimulus twice). But if you can't find the assumption within 2 reads, don't waste your time and just go right in! Good luck!

@ @ thank you!

@ haha it’s all good - thanks!

Wait can someone help me: I had 2 lg sections. 1st section- something with S is the third; 2nd- assigning colors for the fourth game. Some people with 1 lg section told me they didn’t have colors but some did. Which is the real one??😲

@ was your clothing colors lg the one with red white green yellow?

@ do you remember a fourth game about assigning colors or something? red white yellow green?

Does anyone know if the game with assigning colors for like four people were real?

@ Thanks for your response! I meant "all A's before" as in the past three years haha I wish I had a 4.0... My lsac gpa is currently mid–3.8, so I was just worried that an A- might look bad for the last semester. Hopefully it's okay...

@ I remember someone saying the last two games were 10-11 questions and the first two were 12-13. I’m guessing about 5 questions for the flower game. (hopefully)

I am never buying flowers again.

@ Thanks for your comment! I’m glad to see that I’m not alone😭

I wish with all my heart that we both did super well, but keeping in mind the worst case scenario, how bad do you think it would be to see a score decrease?

#Help

I got the right answer choice, but isn't there also a sufficient/necessary condition flaw? The context states that [Effective -> Repeated Many Times] and the premise/conclusion states [Repeated Many Times -> Effective].

I noticed that there was a flaw with the "repeated many times" part because it wasn't ACTUALLY repeated many times, but is there also a sufficient/necessity flaw?

Thank you!! :)

@ I think what the website says is that the level of difficulty for each test is predetermined so that no one test will be harder of easier than another. For example, if they have a trash logic games section (like the one we had last Saturday) then they’ll make up for it by making the logical reasoning less difficult.

I still think there’s a “curve” based on our performance after we take the test. Like everyone is saying, it’s not really a curve since it’s there’s not a set number of people who will score 170 or anything like that. But there is some leniency offered for questions that everyone missed. For example, if everyone missed a particular question, then they’ll “exclude” that question to give a -11 curve. Of course there will be other factors taken into consideration, but I’m sure our actual performance on the test plays a role in determining the curve.

I called LSAC just in case (because I’m super ptsd’ed about Saturday’s logic games section) and they said that the curve will take into account all the canceled scores as well. This means that we don’t have to worry about whether it will only take into account a flawed sample of those who didn’t cancel.

I have no idea if I’m making sense, but I hope this helps others like me who spent the last two days sulking...🥺

My test center also started late (we started at 9:30am). If many of us file complaints, do you think they might let us see our score and then cancel like the July test? (fingers crossed)

For LG beasts out there: I guessed all B’s for a game. Were most of your answers B’s?😭 haha

The stimulus never mentions that it were the patients who were self-reporting. Remember, our job is to make the two arguments analogous (parallel). To assume that the patients were self-reporting is like saying that the babies were self-reporting that they were being born during full moons. The analogous case given to us says "reports of babies being born on full moons (given by maternity staff)". We can infer from this that our claim that "medical patients can predict sudden changes" is reported by the medical staff as well.

It might also help to think about the argument structure for the two analogous situations given to us. We're both given a claim ("medical patients have an instinctual ability to predict sudden changes" and "babies are born in disproportionately high numbers during full moons") but our first claim is missing the reason why the claim was disproven. Our focus should be on this supplying missing piece to make the two situations analogous - which is best demonstrated by AC B.

Answer choice B is reading (in an easier way): the medical staff are more likely to remember if patient's predications about changes are right than when they're not right. This is the same support given in our analogous argument that: maternity room staff were more likely to remember busy nights with full moons than when there wasn't a full moon.

Hope this helps!

You can also generate your own problem sets under Resources>Problem Sets/Q Bank. Click Logic Games and select the “Double Layer Sequencing” tag. Hope this helps

#help

JY says in 9:40 that if we swap out the "highly beneficial" to just "beneficial" for answer choice E, then it would be a correct inference. But the statement that "kindness and social harmony is good" is what the people think. Is it still okay to draw out the inference that kindness and social harmony are actually beneficial? (especially kindness)

#help

I understand why the answer is C, but I'm confused about JY's explanation for why A is incorrect. There are flaw questions where the answers are "overlooks the possibility that...something". How is AC A wrong just because it says "it is possible" and we don't know for sure?

Then shouldn't all the answer choices that start with "overlooks the possibility that" be wrong because we're not sure if they actually occurred or not?

@ HAHA glad it helped, good luck studying!😊

Here, the author is trying to say: [the position that repeat offenders should receive harsher punishments] is unsustainable. It's important to note that the "it" in the beginning of the second sentence is referring to "the position that repeat offenders SHOULD receive harsher punishments". The author is saying no to that position.

In AC B, it says that the second sentence is a statement inferred from a position the argument SEEKS TO DEFEND. What is the author defending here/what is the author's conclusion? The author is defending that the position is a BAD IDEA. However, the inference in the second sentence is drawn from the position that "repeat offenders SHOULD receive harsher punishments."

When you think of an inference, think of it ask "from X (or because of X), we can say Y". The second sentence is basically saying "to say that repeat offenders should receive harsher punishments would be to say that considerations from long ago are relevant to the seriousness of the offense." AC B would make more sense if it said "It is a statement inferred from the position the argument seeks to oppose" or something like that.

Hope this helps!!

Update: LSAC released an email saying "Test takers sign a certifying statement promising not to discuss any portion of the test with anyone. Violating this agreement may result in serious implications, including a misconduct proceeding that may result in a ban on future test registrations." :open_mouth:

@ I read somewhere that you’re required to, but I couldn’t find anything on the LSAC page. I’m going to wait for the decisions and then ask the law schools I get accepted/waitlisted to if they require a post grad transcript.

If you’re asking because you’re curious if your grades still matter (which was basically me), I would try to maintain your grades just in case you’re waitlisted or you decide to reapply. It’s better to be safe than sorry! c:

Hey, I’m also applying while still in school. It’s the same process (send in your transcripts, etc.). The only difference was that I listed on my resume in the education section “Degree expected March 2020”. Good luck!

@ I saw your other post and thought this post might help!

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