When I was an admisisons officer we admitted an 11 year old. She ended up attending Berkeely I believe. I wouldn't sweat your age.

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I've edited my posts to your request. I did try to confirm my numbers by visiting your website before posting, and could not find open price information so I assumed the $5k+ numbers I had seen thrown around on other forums put your firm in a similar strata to the other very expensive admissions consulting companies.

Sincere apologies. I wasn't trying to misrepresent the price of your services, rather to make a point that people spend a lot of money on these services and your excellent branding led me to assume your firm was the cream of the crop in admissions consulting, the "Rolls Royce" of law school admissions if you will.

No worries at all. I appreciate your kind words and agree that when I hear the 10k price tag for other firms and look at their backgrounds, I cringe. I really have tried not to make anything I have ever said on this board a plug for our business so I'll stop here. Again, thanks for the course correction!

-Mike

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I agree I don’t understand the purpose of the thread. As with pretty much anything in life, maximizing the amount of time you can take on something will give you the best results in the shortest period of time. This is obvious. Not everyone can do so bc they have responsibilities. I’m not really sure who this thread is addressed to bc not many people can just stop working.

Do a search for "quit job" on the 7sage forums and you'll find dozens of threads from students who are considering quitting their job for a short period of time to study for the LSAT. This is a real choice that many students can make, and it has a lot of pros and cons attached to it. I think a discussion like the one we're having on this thread is actually quite fruitful.

This post just feels like conservatives yelling at poor people to just save money. In the US we don’t get free healthcare or education so idk why anyone would assume that the average person can just quit their job to study...on a basis of a possible way far future financial gain.

I mean, I can completely sympathize with the students who are not able to take off work to study for this exam. I think it's RIDICULOUS that this exam requires 500-1000+ study hours of preparation. I think it's CRIMINAL that LSAC continues to charge absurd amounts of money for test licensing which makes all prep material extremely expensive. And it's a straight up INSULT to the supposedly meritocratic admissions process that applicants are allowed to shell out $10,000+ for consulting packages from Spivey and similar companies. The entire LSAT is just one gigantic class barrier that unapologetically and unambiguously gives the middle finger to the less privileged in society.

But it's precisely for this reason that students can and should approach preparing for the exam in the best/most efficient ways possible. For those that can take time off work to study for the exam (and that is who the OP addressed this post to, no less no more), then it is an option that is definitely worthy of consideration. In purely financial terms, taking time off work to study for the LSAT can be well worth it -- that's why we're having this discussion.

Hi, I'm not going to get involved in this debate, none of my business and I can see both sides for sure. But since the price amount you suggested we charge is exceptionally more than our highest package, I would ask that you not make up that number for the sake of an argument. You are correct, there is at least 1 firm that charges in that ballpark, but it isn't us. Many thanks, -Mike

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I'm not sure if you need to tie it to law for all law schools, but Asha (Director of admissions at Yale) advises to do so. Here's a short video where she answers a question about personal statements: https://law.yale.edu/yls-today/yale-law-school-videos/ask-asha-what-your-advice-writing-personal-statement

just an fyi that she is no longer their dean of admissions or at the law school and she also liked giving contrarian advice than what many admissions deans gave.

I've suggested Brain Rules by John Medina to about 600 people now, and so far I haven't had a single person do anything but rave about it. I do so for a number of reasons, particular as it explains how we best retain, retrieve information etc. across the board, but also because I don't think the word "law" is in there once. Which will be a blessing for many soon I suspect.

I think everyone is on board with "we don't know what's going go happen"

I'm a bit late to this party :) As others have said, it's just speculation. We've been lucky three years in a row so maybe this is the year our luck runs out...I do wonder though (and maybe it is helpful), where is the supporting evidence that next cycle will be up or more competitive, beyond the one piece that this cycle was? We looked under a lot of rocks and didn't found that much, other than the early cycle reapplicants should be up.

I'd actually post more here but I'd feel icky about it because 7Sage has an admissions side, so just doesn't seem right to me. There are rare times I feel like it's a win win or will happen to notice people are asking me questions but apologies for not being here more. I hope the above makes sense.

I'd say more about TLS but it now disgusts me so nothing more needs to be said.

Hi all. I exceptionally rarely come over here but I've had a number of people call/contact me, especially after the HLS wording change. Law School's only care about your high LSAT. That includes every law school I know of including every school mentioned in this thread. There are individual applicant outliers (people who take an absurd number of times, cancel an absurd number of times, etc), because that gives data on what kind of student they may be at your law school. But if you are the dean of admissions at X school, and you have an applicant with a 150 and a 170 and you average that and thus deny them because you say "well they have a 160" and all of your competitors with medians of 168/169 are admitting them, because only the 170 goes toward ranking. Guess what? You will soon be fired. Hence, high score reins the supreme entity. I hope this helps!

Mike

Good luck everyone!

In the meantime, here is insider admissions data as of YESTERDAY for THIS cycle :)

http://blog.spiveyconsulting.com/current-application-data/

Damn right it is our business lol :) But seriously

, we (there are 9 of us now) have spent the last many years cultivating relationships so we can break stuff. I say this to add we will break a whole bunch of LSAC data on where you guys stand in this cycle in December, and we will break the USNWR rankings in March a day early. Hopefully it helps :)

Double.

Yep :/

Dillon, I spent much of my childhood being called Spidey :/.