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PT158.S2.Q10
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Saturday, Jan 01 2022

AC D is also incorrect because it assumes something about the Oroma civilization. Perhaps the Oromo civilization was influenced by some other civilization but since the stimulus doesn’t go into detail about the Oromo civilization we can’t assume that. I didn’t choose AC D because of this reason

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PT144.S2.Q21
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Sunday, Aug 08 2021

Please let me know if I am right? I think one of the reasons why C is wrong is because it says "would like to go out to dinner together" in the premise which means that if any one part won't go then the whole won't go. This is not the same as the whole-part flaw in the stimulus because AC C doesn't have a flaw, its conclusion is well supported by the premise I mentioned above where as the stimulus makes a jump.

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Monday, May 03 2021

Interested!

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Sunday, May 02 2021

interested!

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Tuesday, Apr 27 2021

interested

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Monday, Apr 05 2021

Hi I struggle with this too and have found doing a bunch of questions as warm up before the test to help. I have also started approaching the first 10 questions differently, I go in with a more attacking mindset now and force myself to not dwell too much on the answers.

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Tuesday, Mar 30 2021

Hi I'm unable to see the AC bubbles next to questions on LawHub website and have to guess if the one I selected is the one being put in. Nervous that this might persist for the real one. Is anyone else experiencing this?

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Tuesday, Mar 30 2021

Interested! Sound like a great idea for 3rd BR

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Monday, Mar 29 2021

Hi! I will give it a shot.

Conclusion: "severe pollution of the north sea waters must have weakened the immune system of the seals so that they could no longer withstand the virus"

We need to find a way to strengthen the gaps in the stimulus or come up with something that removes any doubts about the conclusion being true. I couldn't make a prediction for this one so got to the AC through method of elimination

B. Okay they have been taking the lead but how effective are they? no sense of relativity given to help us assume their success rate in pollution prevention? This does nothing for the argument. Also if it were true it will weaken the argument

C. doesn't help us prove our conclusion because doesn't talk about pollution

D. Knowing what types of seal are present also doesn't strengthen our conclusion

E. This weakens our argument. If this is true then it was the newness of the virus that was the reason for the deaths not the pollution

This leaves us with A.

A. is right because

it points to other data points that like the sudden seal population deaths are a result of pollution.

The data points received "steep drops" which matches with "suddenly" from stimulus

If there was pollution in the sea causing the deaths then it was bound to affect other species too right? Our seal deaths are not an anomaly. This AC proves that

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Sunday, Mar 21 2021

Hi would appreciate help on LG!

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Saturday, Mar 20 2021

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How to bridge BR and actual score for LR?

Hi,

I've recently started doing the newer pts between 70-80 and seen a significant drop in my LR score which I can probably fix through pt exposure but a more consistent issue with LR has been that I am only able to get questions right after a lot of review but under timed conditions this is really tough for me. Partially because I take time to warm up but also because I have no strategy on how to attack answer choices. I know there are no shortcuts to getting better at LR but I would still appreciate if someone can advise me on how to attempt the section? Do people read all answer choices from beginning to end?

My current strategy is to highlight conclusions if I can find one and make a predication (which doesn't come naturally to me so I often find myself moving to the answer choices without a prediction under timed conditions). My average LR score is -9 which can go down to a -3 after BR.

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Friday, Mar 19 2021

Hi! I’m in the same boat and it’s rough. Been foolproofing for months but never do well on a new section. Let me know if you figure something out 😩

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Thursday, Mar 18 2021

Scoring in low 160s and interested!

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PT122.S2.Q21
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Wednesday, Mar 17 2021

Can anyone tell me why we are assuming here that AC B is talking about sugar taken in "small amounts". It could be that the sugar it is talking about here is taken in large amounts and hence exacerbate dehydration as talked about in last line of stimulus?

#help

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PT131.S3.Q16
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Monday, Mar 15 2021

I'm confused about E because for a NA AC the wording seemed too strong to me. Just because the C enzyme levels have been restored to normal once how can that guarantee that the person will not suffer from periodontitis in the future? If we answer that it does guarantee to eliminate suffering then aren't we assuming that restoring C enzyme levels is the only way to eliminate peritonitis which is AC A or D? #help

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Wednesday, Mar 10 2021

@starcatchers367 sure. Let me message you

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Tuesday, Mar 09 2021

@starcatchers367 said:

Wow I literally came onto the forums to post about my struggles with these two question types. Both should be low-hanging fruit and I'm also finding that even 3-star questions ACs make me pause way too long when I'm under time pressure. I'm spending this whole week to return to the CC, drill Flaw questions, and parse every single AC before I take my next PT this weekend. When reviewing, I'm consulting JY's video explanation as well as Manhattan Prep and Powerscore forums which often have great write-ups that sheds new light on the ACs. Maybe you also just need more exposure to the abstract language?

Hi! Honestly I don’t know what else to do so I’ve been doing a deep blind review of these questions too in hopes of making them click. Good luck to you!

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Tuesday, Mar 09 2021

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How to improve on Argument Part and Flaw questions

Hi,

I've noticed that I am not improving on argument part and flaw questions even after having a relatively good sense of identifying the premise, conclusion and flaw (I've gone over the flaw list plenty of times). I usually do fine on them under untimed conditions because I have enough time to parse down the grammar and rephrase the sentences in my own words but don't perform well under pressure. I think a reason I am unable to pick the right answer instantly is because the language describing the flaws and arguments confuses me or doesn't make sense on the first read. Can anyone recommend any resources or tips on how to overcome this? Thank you!

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PT131.S2.Q15
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Monday, Mar 08 2021

Hi I was also confused with this and came up with this reasoning but not sure if its right.

I also think that "Bowers argument and reference in the second half imply that the social philosophy of peace is NEEDED for a society to flourish."

However D says that "the argument presumes that ANY peaceful society will flourish"

I assume here that the there is a sufficient/necessary difference for "peace" between the stimulus and D which is why its incorrect.

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Sunday, Mar 07 2021

Ah I see, so the reason the AC is incorrect because of the something can happen vs something is happening error. Thank you so much for clarifying this!!!

@maizinburly527 said:

When you say "Whereas this answer choice goes a step further and says that the most important function of epic poetry is actually being carried out on a group of people" do you mean to say that "a group of people" here is used in the numeric relationship sense which is why "a group of people" is not equal to "many groups of people"? I think my confusion stems from the sentence "The most important function of epic poetry is to transmit the values by which a group of people is to live" as I perceived the mention of "a group of people live" here as a model group rather than a singular group and didn't catch this as a numeric difference when I came to answer choice D. Thanks for your help!

So the language "some" in answer choice D implies at least one group of people. The reason D is wrong is not because of the distinction of at least one group (or "a group") vs several groups, but rather because the answer choice is saying that groups of people (or even a single group of people) are hearing epic poems- which based on the stimulus we cannot infer. All we know is the mechanism by which epic poetry carries out its most important function, we don't know whether or not there has been an instance in which epic poetry carried out said function.

I hope that clears it up!

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Sunday, Mar 07 2021

Hi thanks for your thorough reply!

I am afraid I am still a little confused about D. I hope my question makes sense but will give it another shot.

When you say "Whereas this answer choice goes a step further and says that the most important function of epic poetry is actually being carried out on a group of people" do you mean to say that "a group of people" here is used in the numeric relationship sense which is why "a group of people" is not equal to "many groups of people"? I think my confusion stems from the sentence "The most important function of epic poetry is to transmit the values by which a group of people is to live" as I perceived the mention of "a group of people live" here as a model group rather than a singular group and didn't catch this as a numeric difference when I came to answer choice D. Thanks for your help!

@maizinburly527 said:

Hey there,

Heres a quick breakdown of the question.

Prem: The most important function of epic poetry is to transmit the values by which a group of people is to live.

Prem: This transmission is done via embodiment in heoric figures who are presented as role models

Prem: Imitating those role models (heroic figures) gives meaning and direction to the lives of those who hear the poems.

Inference: the most important function of epic poetry is carried out via role models (heroic figures)

A) This talks about POETRY, the stimulus discusses EPIC poetry. Toss it.

B- This is supported by the stim and must be true according to the information we're given. Keep in mind "most" in this answer choice is qualifying the degree of importance- which is explicitly stated in the stimulus. "most" in this sense is not referring to a numeric relationship. This answer choice is essentially just detailing the mechanism by which EP accomplishes its most important function.

In regards to the loophole, i'm assuming the context Ellen Cassidy is referring to is the unsubstantiated "most", which is usually acting as the existential qualifier denoting numeric relationships. However, in this case Cassidy's powerful provable does not apply as the AC matches the language (power) seen in the stimulus. As a rule of thumb, don't blindly abide by the powerful vs provable model- sure its great, but it also needs to be understood in context. It's not some iron clad rule that can be applied to every and any situation.

C) extremely vague and also not supported by the stim, like answer choice A, this talks about poetry, not EPIC poetry.

D) This is also not supported by the stim. Stack this up against B and you will see the difference. B denotes the mechanism by which EP accomplishes its most important function. Whereas this answer choice goes a step further and says that the most important function of epic poetry is actually being carried out on a group of people. In other words, some people are hearing epic poems. But we don't know this based on the stim. Toss it.

E) Again, not supported. For all we know multiple other things have an identical function.

Hope this helped!

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PT140.S2.Q17
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Sunday, Mar 07 2021

Hi how are we sure that a portion of those lamps means some? It could mean most too no since we are making assumptions here? Thanks

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Sunday, Mar 07 2021

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PT 70.S4.Q14 - Epic poetry

Hi can someone explain why D is wrong? I understand that it might be due to the invalid generalization. We know that epic poetry transmits values "by which a group of people is to live." We know it accomplishes this by embodying those values in heroic figures. However, we can't definitely conclude that epic poetry performs this function for "many groups of people," as choice (D) indicates. But I am confused because of the term "A". I think "a" means a general scenario, and the statement can apply to any/all group of ppl so wouldn't then the application of this model "a group" be applicable to the "many group"?

Also my issue with the answer choice B is that it mentions 'most' and under time pressure I applied Loopholes provable-powerful method and eliminated B because the 'most' was a powerful indicator word. For those who have read loophole have you also come across such situations, what do you do?

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