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Wednesday, Jan 04 2017

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Score drop on a retake..

The very thing I was worried about happened yesterday.. T_T...

I got 3 points lower on the December retake than my initial September test. (160 -> 157)

What's going to happen now?

I have no intention of retaking the LSAT anymore..

Do I need to write an addendum for this drop or is it negligible?

Will I get a worse chance at schools that I'm applying to (T40-50ish schools) because of this drop?

Any words of encouragement will be appreciated...

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Wednesday, Nov 30 2016

Another trivial flaw: Just because no officer in the precinct has taken gifts, it doesn't mean that no other people in the precinct have taken gifts. ie) janitors could have taken gifts.

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Wednesday, Nov 23 2016

Negation of NA is to wreck the argument, meaning wrecking the premise’s support to the conclusion. We’re not trying to wreck the conclusion itself. The conclusion may still be true because of numerous other factors.

(P): Most people oppose tariffs.

(C): Therefore, if the politician voted against tariffs, he would be more likely to be reelected.

Negation of (A): Supporters of tariffs are significantly more likely to base their vote on tariffs. Opponents of tariffs are significantly less likely to base their vote on tariffs.

Now, it could still be the case that the politician would be more likely to be reelected if he voted against tariffs (i.e. regardless of his stance on tariffs, he gets more votes on other issues), but it’s certainly not because most people oppose tariffs; even if they oppose tariffs, they are not going reflect that on their vote as much as supporters of tariffs. (to a significant degree) Thus, the premise’s support to the conclusion is wrecked.

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Wednesday, Nov 23 2016

https://lsathacks.com/explanations/lsat-preptest-77/logical-reasoning-1/q-24/

You should also read this explanation. Hope it helps!

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Monday, Nov 21 2016

Another trivial flaw in the stimulus is that we do not know whether Lester works at Leila’s Electronics. Technically, we cannot just straight assume Lester works there just because the sentence about him is stated afterwards. If Lester works for another company, all the conditions in the first sentence become irrelevant.

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Sunday, Nov 20 2016

@jhaldy10325 Very different.

Does statement 1 establish a positive correlation between chocolate consumption and depression? (JY says so in PT72 S2 Q14 explanation)

If so, why does JY say the statement "Ones who improved the most were the ones who learned to write the most automatically" in PT47 S1 Q26 does not establish a correlation?

Thank you so much for your help!

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Saturday, Nov 19 2016

My question is not whether "low/middle range chocolate eaters are equally or more likely to feel depressed than those who ate the most"

I'm asking what if "low range chocolate eaters felt more depressed than middle range chocolate eaters"?

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Saturday, Nov 19 2016

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Establishing a Correlation

I would appreciate if somebody could clarify this one for me..

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-72-section-2-question-14/

Here, JY equates, “Those who ate the most chocolate were the most likely to feel depressed” with “Chocolate Consumption –positively correlated with– Depression”

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-47-section-1-question-26/

Here, JY says “Ones who improved the most were the ones who learned to write the most automatically” is not establishing a correlation. (because we don't know what happened to the 2nd tier people)

What’s going on?

I have also posted a similar question on the PT 72 S2 Q14 down in the comment..

1. Those who ate the most chocolate were the most likely to feel depressed.

2. The more chocolate one consumed, the more likely he/she felt depressed.

Aren’t these two different in meaning? Because for the first statement we don’t know what happened to the middle/low range chocolate eaters..

But we still translate both of them as..

Chocolate Consumption –positively correlated with– Depression

Thoughts?

Thanks in advance!

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Saturday, Nov 19 2016

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-47-section-1-question-26/

For the question in the link, if you could take a look at the video explanation,

(C) is a correct answer because it gives us more data points thus allows us to establish the correlation.

Which means the stimulus as it stands (ones who improved the most -correlated with- ones who write most automatically) does not not yet establishes a complete correlation.

Could you take a look at this and let me know what you think?

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Wednesday, Nov 16 2016

Just to clarify, the power plant is not at a stoplight. The car is at a stoplight.

At a stoplight, the car is moving at the speed of 0.

which is analogous to..

(D) the power plant is emitting 0 pollutants. (Yes, I think it's probably paused)

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Friday, Nov 11 2016

(A) is a correct answer choice only because the Qstem asks which one most helps to explain the discrepancy.

Like amipp170 said below, we do not know if the deer in the stimulus were a part of 'most wildlife' in (A).

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Friday, Nov 11 2016

I got tripped up by (C).

When a vehicle is at a stoplight, its speed is 0, which is analogous to a power plant emitting 0 pollutants.

I chose (C) by mistakenly swapping the idea of speed for the idea of pollutant emission, thinking cars do emit low pollutants at the stoplight.

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Tuesday, Nov 08 2016

Steve Jobs..

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Friday, Nov 04 2016

The stimulus states, "Two pairs of yearling ostriches and one acre of similar land are enough to begin ostrich farming."

The sufficient condition to begin ostrich farming is 4 ostriches and 1 acre of land. So technically, the start-up cost for ostrich farming does not have to include other farming devices/costs that you've mentioned.

Notice the stimulus makes a distinction for cattle ranching. It states, "Starting out in cattle ranching requires a large herd of cows, one bull, and at least two acres per cow."

The necessary condition to begin cattle ranching is a herd of cows + bull + at least 2 acres of land per cow.

In this case, there could be more necessary conditions for starting up cattle ranching such as other farming devices/costs that you've mentioned.

The stimulus states, "The start-up costs for ostrich farming are greater than for cattle ranching."

This means..

start-up costs for ostrich farming (4 ostriches + 1 acre of land) > start-up costs for cattle ranching (herd of cows + bull + at least 2 acres of land per cow + possibly other farming devices/costs necessary)

Therefore, (A) is most strongly supported. 4 ostriches have to be more expensive than a herd of cows + a bull.

P.S. I guess the start-up costs for ostrich farming could also assume additional farming devices/costs, in which case (A) does not have to true. I think that is why this question is MSS, not MBT.

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Sunday, Oct 23 2016

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What if you score lower on your retake?

Are there any downsides to scoring lower on your retake and then applying with those two scores? Do you need to write an addendum if it happens?

Also.. How do law schools look at multiple LSAT scores? There seem to be conflicting views online. Thank you in advance!

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I got a 160 on the September LSAT. I was PTing at 160-163 range, so it’s about what I expected to get.

My one and only dream school is/was Univeristy of Washington, Seattle that has the median LSAT of 164. Benefits of attending UW are in-state tuition, familiarity with the environment (I went to undergraduate there), and the fact that it’s the most renowned law school in the Pacific NW.

I feel so out of shape due to the 3 week break and I feel like I do not have enough strength/motivation left of me to study further for the December retake and get that median 164.. I’m registered for it though…

Is it worth it to go to law school with a 160 LSAT score, presumably paying out-out-state tuition at a 40-50th law school? Should I go to 111th law school in my region with some scholarships? Can I even get a job securely with that option?

If it helps I have a decent GPA of 3.75 and I’m not a URM.

It’s just so damn stressful to even think about getting back to studying at this point..... I simply despise the LSAT right now.. But if you guys suggest that retaking is truly a more valuable option, I will probably try.. Only 40ish days left until the December test.. OMG…. HELP ME PLEASE..

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Sunday, Oct 09 2016

@solkahlerrios847 Are many of you applying for the December LSAT before the Oct 18 deadline, despite not knowing your score until, perhaps, the 20th?

I registered for the December exam in case my preferred test center gets filled up. I'm going to withdraw the exam if I like my September score or take the exam otherwise.

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Edited Wednesday, Sep 10 2025

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-39-section-2-question-05/

Interesting that the difficulty ratings differ significantly lol.

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Wednesday, Sep 21 2016

I thought (C) was wrong also because it qualifies day-care workers to have to work as employees of day-care centers. What if people work as freelance day-care workers without being employed by the day-care centers?

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Saturday, Sep 17 2016

By saying “Why isn’t it a necessary assumption that hairless dogs were not introduced to both regions from some third region,” are you asking why (A) is not a necessary assumption? If you are, (A) is not saying the same thing.

Negation of (A): Some hairless dogs have been found somewhere other than the two regions. (i.e. Spain)

Like JY says, so what if hairless dogs were found in Spain? What if they were transported to Spain from the two regions? It is completely consistent with the argument, thus (A) is not a necessary assumption.

I do think however, “Hairless dogs were not introduced to both regions from some third region” is a correct, alternative necessary assumption.

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Saturday, Sep 17 2016

1. Those who ate the most chocolate were the most likely to feel depressed.

2. The more chocolate one consumed, the more likely he/she felt depressed.

Aren’t these two different in meaning? Because for the first statement we don’t know what happened to the middle/low range chocolate eaters..

But we still translate both of them as..

Chocolate Consumption –positively correlated with– Depression

Thoughts?

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Thursday, Sep 15 2016

P: Marxism should be regarded as a scientific theory.

C: Marxism should not be interpreted as a political program.

Fill in the gap between the P and C by simply stating P->C.

(D) does it. Scientific theories->cannot be interpreted to be political programs. By assuming (D), the argument is now valid. (correct SA answer)

(B) is wrong because 1) it talks about science in general while the P is about scientific theories 2) it talks about people while the C is about political programs. (B) does not connect the P to C which is what we need.

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Tuesday, Sep 13 2016

I fell for (E) as well.

I think it’s not a sub-conclusion simply because [some dinosaur species living in below freezing temperature] does not support the idea that [only warm-blooded animals could survive in below freezing temperature] at all.

However, with these two separate statements each taken as true, we can infer that dinosaurs were warm-blooded, which in turn supports the argument’s conclusion. (Premises)

Like JY explains, we just take [only warm-blooded animals could survive in below freezing temperature] as true with no support given for that fact.

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