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PT143.S1.Q18
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Wednesday, Nov 30 2016

Another trivial flaw: Just because no officer in the precinct has taken gifts, it doesn't mean that no other people in the precinct have taken gifts. ie) janitors could have taken gifts.

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Tuesday, Aug 23 2016

Thanks. I also found this on another website, too.

"The LSAT is not curved - it is equated. That is, the difficulty of the questions is determined by giving them in experimental sections of previous tests (this is why there is an experimental section). That known difficulty is then used to set the scoring key so that any given score correlates to the same level of performance across all tests. (The "margin of error" that LSAC releases with your test results is a description of the statistical certainty of this correlation.)

This is important because it adjusts for any demographic differences that may occur between test administrations due to economic fluctuations or preferences for a certain time of year. If the test was simply curved, one could play the system by determining which administration was likely to have the most lenient curve. Instead, all administrations have identically difficult tests, within LSAC's stated margin of error."

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Sunday, Oct 23 2016

nnking0407457

What if you score lower on your retake?

Are there any downsides to scoring lower on your retake and then applying with those two scores? Do you need to write an addendum if it happens?

Also.. How do law schools look at multiple LSAT scores? There seem to be conflicting views online. Thank you in advance!

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Tuesday, Aug 23 2016

nnking0407457

The LSAT curve

I have a somewhat weird question.

You see the LSAT is graded on a curve which means your score also depends on others’ scores.

Does this mean that you’re more likely to get a higher score for the same amount of correct answers if other test takers do badly?

If that’s the case, does it mean that you’re more likely to get a higher score if you take the test, say in Japan where the average test takers’ English proficiency is way lower than say, in the US?

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Monday, Aug 22 2016

Thanks for your help!

Upon BRing, I could also notice that even JY agrees many questions are tougher than usual on these newer PTs..

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-60-section-3-question-17/

Any food that is not sterilized and sealed can contain bacteria

JY’s translation: /Sterilized or /Sealed -> can contain bacteria

Jy mentions DeMorgan’s law to reach the translation.

Could somebody explain how the translation works this way?

I initially translated the statement as: /Sterilized and Sealed -> can contain bacteria

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Monday, Aug 22 2016

nnking0407457

significant drop in score for recent 69+ pts

Hello 7sagers,

I need your advice on how to react to this drop…

I’ve reached my peak score in the late 60 pts scoring 161-164 range which is my target score. I thought I was definitely ready for the September test.

To my surprise, starting with pt69 to 70, I felt like I was so lost in LR and scored 157 on both of them.

Is it just me who feels there’s a dramatic change in LR Qstems?

I feel so discouraged and am even considering to postpone the test..

I believe standardized tests should retain similar difficulties over tests and these differences are such a bummer..

Any suggestions..?

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PT136.S4.Q17
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Monday, Aug 22 2016

I believe the sun here does mean Neptune in the answer choice (E).

Merriam Webster’s definition of sun: any star that has planets which move around it

Since Pluto was ejected from orbit around Neptune (its sun) when Triton was captured by Neptune’s gravity (Meaning it failed to form in orbit around the sun exclusively), Pluto is not a true planet.

Not that it changes the answer, but just wanted to mention it.

I got a 160 on the September LSAT. I was PTing at 160-163 range, so it’s about what I expected to get.

My one and only dream school is/was Univeristy of Washington, Seattle that has the median LSAT of 164. Benefits of attending UW are in-state tuition, familiarity with the environment (I went to undergraduate there), and the fact that it’s the most renowned law school in the Pacific NW.

I feel so out of shape due to the 3 week break and I feel like I do not have enough strength/motivation left of me to study further for the December retake and get that median 164.. I’m registered for it though…

Is it worth it to go to law school with a 160 LSAT score, presumably paying out-out-state tuition at a 40-50th law school? Should I go to 111th law school in my region with some scholarships? Can I even get a job securely with that option?

If it helps I have a decent GPA of 3.75 and I’m not a URM.

It’s just so damn stressful to even think about getting back to studying at this point..... I simply despise the LSAT right now.. But if you guys suggest that retaking is truly a more valuable option, I will probably try.. Only 40ish days left until the December test.. OMG…. HELP ME PLEASE..

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PT144.S4.Q16
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Wednesday, Sep 21 2016

I thought (C) was wrong also because it qualifies day-care workers to have to work as employees of day-care centers. What if people work as freelance day-care workers without being employed by the day-care centers?

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PT136.S4.Q24
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Monday, Nov 21 2016

Another trivial flaw in the stimulus is that we do not know whether Lester works at Leila’s Electronics. Technically, we cannot just straight assume Lester works there just because the sentence about him is stated afterwards. If Lester works for another company, all the conditions in the first sentence become irrelevant.

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Sunday, Nov 20 2016

@ Very different.

Does statement 1 establish a positive correlation between chocolate consumption and depression? (JY says so in PT72 S2 Q14 explanation)

If so, why does JY say the statement "Ones who improved the most were the ones who learned to write the most automatically" in PT47 S1 Q26 does not establish a correlation?

Thank you so much for your help!

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Saturday, Nov 19 2016

My question is not whether "low/middle range chocolate eaters are equally or more likely to feel depressed than those who ate the most"

I'm asking what if "low range chocolate eaters felt more depressed than middle range chocolate eaters"?

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Saturday, Nov 19 2016

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Establishing a Correlation

I would appreciate if somebody could clarify this one for me..

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-72-section-2-question-14/

Here, JY equates, “Those who ate the most chocolate were the most likely to feel depressed” with “Chocolate Consumption –positively correlated with– Depression”

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-47-section-1-question-26/

Here, JY says “Ones who improved the most were the ones who learned to write the most automatically” is not establishing a correlation. (because we don't know what happened to the 2nd tier people)

What’s going on?

I have also posted a similar question on the PT 72 S2 Q14 down in the comment..

1. Those who ate the most chocolate were the most likely to feel depressed.

2. The more chocolate one consumed, the more likely he/she felt depressed.

Aren’t these two different in meaning? Because for the first statement we don’t know what happened to the middle/low range chocolate eaters..

But we still translate both of them as..

Chocolate Consumption –positively correlated with– Depression

Thoughts?

Thanks in advance!

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Friday, Aug 19 2016

nnking0407457

motivational video

Hey 7sagers,

I watched this video for the first time last night and I thought it was really motivational, especially now that the September LSAT is around the corner. Wanted to share it.

Let’s push through the last month strong!

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PT148.S3.Q14
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Saturday, Sep 17 2016

1. Those who ate the most chocolate were the most likely to feel depressed.

2. The more chocolate one consumed, the more likely he/she felt depressed.

Aren’t these two different in meaning? Because for the first statement we don’t know what happened to the middle/low range chocolate eaters..

But we still translate both of them as..

Chocolate Consumption –positively correlated with– Depression

Thoughts?

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PT134.S1.Q19
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Monday, Aug 15 2016

So in a sense, the answer choice (C) is saying the premise is false?

Premise:

/Widespread agreement -> /reasonable to allow

According to the answer choice (C):

( /Widespread agreement and reasonable to allow ) -> Okay

Does this mean it's okay to attack the premise since it's a flaw question?

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PT145.S2.Q24
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Tuesday, Sep 13 2016

I thought JY’s explanation of people in Georgia voting for politicians in Detroit was a little bit confusing.

Argument: (P): most people oppose tariffs -> (C): politicians will win more votes if they oppose tariffs

Negation of (A): Supporters of tariffs are significantly more likely to base their vote on tariffs. Opponents of tariffs are significantly less likely to base their vote on tariffs.

Because the opponents of tariffs (most people) will not care about tariffs as much as the supporters of tariffs when voting, the argument is wrecked. Therefore, (A) is the correct NA.

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PT128.S3.Q15
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Friday, Nov 11 2016

(A) is a correct answer choice only because the Qstem asks which one most helps to explain the discrepancy.

Like amipp170 said below, we do not know if the deer in the stimulus were a part of 'most wildlife' in (A).

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Thursday, Aug 11 2016

I guess I’ll be better off cramming some pts now rather than taking them the week of the test. Thanks!

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PT128.S2.Q12
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Friday, Nov 11 2016

I got tripped up by (C).

When a vehicle is at a stoplight, its speed is 0, which is analogous to a power plant emitting 0 pollutants.

I chose (C) by mistakenly swapping the idea of speed for the idea of pollutant emission, thinking cars do emit low pollutants at the stoplight.

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PT144.S4.Q18
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Friday, Sep 09 2016

Hairless dogs were not transported from another country to both Mexico and Peru centuries ago.

Would this be an alternative NA?

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PT144.S4.Q18
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Friday, Sep 09 2016

difficult...

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Friday, Sep 09 2016

nnking0407457

skipping long LR questions

I usually finish answering all the questions in the nick of time or have to skip a couple of them.

My current strategy is to first skip all the parallel method of reasoning, parallel flaw, or long principle questions, (regardless, not even assessing the difficulty) then attempt them all at the end. Thus, the skipped (guessed) questions usually end up being those questions.

Do you think it’s a good strategy or should I make a change? I will appreciate your thoughts/experience!

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Sunday, Oct 09 2016

@ Are many of you applying for the December LSAT before the Oct 18 deadline, despite not knowing your score until, perhaps, the 20th?

I registered for the December exam in case my preferred test center gets filled up. I'm going to withdraw the exam if I like my September score or take the exam otherwise.

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PT145.S2.Q16
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Tuesday, Nov 08 2016

Steve Jobs..

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Tuesday, Jun 07 2016

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Negation of ‘few’

I understand that few means some are, most are not.

Ex) Few will show up unless there’s free booze.

/FB -> FS If there’s no free booze, then few will show up. (some will, most will not)

contrapostives:

/FS -> FB If not few show up (some will not, most will), then there’s free booze.

JY equated the second translation as 'If most show up, then there's free booze.'

Can the translation of ‘not few' also be ‘none’ as it also means some will not?

Thank you in advance!

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PT143.S3.Q23
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Tuesday, Sep 06 2016

Negation of NA wrecks the argument.

Negation of (A): gardeners plant around the same time the first warm spell of spring or earlier.

I made a bad assumption that the gardeners could plant way earlier than the first warm spell of spring, harvest even before the frost happens, and thus get better results.

If this is true, it doesn’t wreck the argument. However, even granting this absurd assumption, we cannot ignore the first half of the negation which if true, would totally wreck the argument.

Therefore, (A) still is the right NA answer choice.

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PT143.S1.Q23
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Tuesday, Sep 06 2016

(B) is a necessary assumption answer choice and (C) is a sufficient assumption answer choice.

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PT133.S1.Q16
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Monday, Sep 05 2016

Definition of household: all the people living together in a house

Just because the number of households moved out outnumbered the number of households moved in, it does not mean the total number of residents declined. We need to know the number of people in each household in order to conclude anything. (D) clarifies it and thus strengthen the argument.

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PT140.S3.Q21
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Sunday, Sep 04 2016

This question is bad in that (B) requires us to assume that the people in the control group work in the environments in which disturb the ability to detect scent less than the sulfur-emitting factories. (i.e. cubicles)

However, whereas (B) can weaken the argument if we make the assumption, (A) doesn’t weaken the argument at all as it doesn’t point out any differences between the two groups. Therefore, (B) is a better weakening answer than (A).

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PT140.S3.Q3
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Sunday, Sep 04 2016

(B) only explains the first half of the phenomenon. How about the reason why chimps rarely make threat gestures after they attack? Do the LSAT writers want us to assume that the attacks release anger so that they no longer need to make threats anymore? If so, why would they even include the last sentence?

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Wednesday, Jan 04 2017

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Score drop on a retake..

The very thing I was worried about happened yesterday.. T_T...

I got 3 points lower on the December retake than my initial September test. (160 -> 157)

What's going to happen now?

I have no intention of retaking the LSAT anymore..

Do I need to write an addendum for this drop or is it negligible?

Will I get a worse chance at schools that I'm applying to (T40-50ish schools) because of this drop?

Any words of encouragement will be appreciated...

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PT132.S4.Q5
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Sunday, Sep 04 2016

So had (E) said, "Those who use sunscreens most regularly are people who are the most susceptible to skin cancer,” would it be an alternative weakening answer choice?

Sort of feels like the famous Dramamine question, but I’m still not 100% sure it would weaken the argument.

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PT142.S1.Q24
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Friday, Sep 02 2016

Argument: /Report -> /Capable or (/PI and /500)

(E): /Report -> /PI or /500

It is wrong because it could be the case /R -> (/Capable) and (PI and 500)

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