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ochbayarenkhbat891
Sunday, May 31 2020

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Does anyone know if we can use surface pro? Thanks!

Yes. When they say tablets, they mean iPad and similar devices. LSAC sent out the Surface Go for the test takers with hardware issues. As long as your device can run the necessary programs that is required to be downloaded and has a webcam, microphone, and audio then it should be fine.

As for the OP, I highly recommend the device with the larger monitor. I prefer reading on a larger screen personally.

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ochbayarenkhbat891
Saturday, Aug 29 2020

I had RC-LG-LR.

RC - Dog v. Wolf experiment

LG - Lectures and Interviews

LR - Chimpanzees and Distribution of Food.

The RC seemed normal to me, LG was on the easier side, and LR seemed normal. I struggled on two questions on LR. I wonder what the curve will be like?

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ochbayarenkhbat891
Friday, Aug 28 2020

I put coffee in a plastic bottle for my May Flex take and it was totally fine. I drank it in the middle of the exam as well.

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ochbayarenkhbat891
Thursday, May 28 2020

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The issue is that LSAC accidentally included in Lawhub all of the items they had removed from scoring. This affects not just PT86. Take a look at PT60.LR1.19, PT52.RC.15, PT46.RC.9, PT45.LR1.5, PT66.LG.17. It's all there. There's also one test where the removed item is #1 and the section glitches out...I forgot which one, I think it's in the PT20s. I say let's take this opportunity to study these problems to see if we can figure out why LSAC found them flawed enough to remove.

Now that's news to me. Thank you for the heads up!

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ochbayarenkhbat891
Wednesday, May 27 2020

I find reading on a small tablet extremely hard. The FLEX offers me the ability to take the exam on my comfortable chair and large monitor (12 inch tablet vs 34 inch monitor). There are trade offs though such as having one less LR and possibility of technical issues. However, I am leaning more towards the FLEX as a positive.

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ochbayarenkhbat891
Wednesday, May 20 2020

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Quick update for any readers in the future. I felt that there were minor new tricks in the newer PTs. I was able to jump back to 172-175 range after thoroughly reviewing my PTs. It may require some minor adjustments on how you go through the LR.

Could you be more specific on what kind of minor new tricks you spotted in the newer PTs? My LR has been suffering in the early 80s range, and I am very frustrated. I’ve been thoroughly BRing the questions I struggled with (esp 80 & 81), but 82 was worse for me than 80 and 81, in terms of LR. I’d appreciate it if you could clarify what changes you saw and what you did to combat them!

Sure, the largest difference that I've noticed is the wordier LR which can make it harder to keep track of the overall stimulus. I usually never miss SA questions during my 60s and 70s PT but I've noticed that the 80s have answers that are super attractive and somewhat similar to the correct answer choice. I was too confident when I saw an SA due to my track record before so I had to manually make myself be more careful and read with scrutiny when I see an SA during the 80s.

I also usually do well on NA question types but noticed that it gets wordier and the required assumption gets cloudier to see in my head. In order to address this, I started negating my answer choice to see if it destroys the argument during my timed exam which is something that I didn't really put to use since it requires more time per question. Sometimes there are a lot of unnecessary sentences that aren't important to the main argument such as PT89.S4.Q14 where the goal of the stimulus is to confuse you instead of allowing you to see the actual argument. I started to divert my main attention to shortening the argument in my head to address the wordier LR stimulus.

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ochbayarenkhbat891
Wednesday, May 20 2020

That was the case for me. Do not be discouraged by variation when you jump from older tests to newer tests. The logical foundations are exactly the same. Thoroughly review and I'm sure you will be back to your PT average or even higher!

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ochbayarenkhbat891
Tuesday, May 19 2020

Quick update for any readers in the future. I felt that there were minor new tricks in the newer PTs. I was able to jump back to 172-175 range after thoroughly reviewing my PTs. It may require some minor adjustments on how you go through the LR.

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ochbayarenkhbat891
Tuesday, May 19 2020

The only writing tool available to test-takers on the LSAT-Flex are No. 2/HB pencils and a highlighter. Pen and mechanical pencils are not permitted.

I would transition from pen to regular pencil.

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ochbayarenkhbat891
Tuesday, May 19 2020

For people asking about the procedure for testing, it went like this.

When the counter goes down to zero, it changes to “start exam” button. It launches a portal that checks your computer for webcam, microphone, internet speed and so on.

You are prompted accept terms and conditions to share your information, screen, and recording.

Verify your face by taking a photo through the ProctorU portal and present your identification card.

When you pass the preliminary, the portal makes you download an app from ProctorU which launches a chat box that puts you in queue for a proctor. This process took me 5 minutes and the proctor arrived 5 minutes later.

The proctor will take over control of your PC and check if other programs are running and if there is a second monitor. Then they will ask you to show your work environment (4 corners, mirror, under desk, blank sheets, pencils, and so on).

Once you complete the step above, the proctor will ask you to log into your lawhub and go to the flex section. They may or may not ask you to read the terms for the last flex.

Once you accept the terms (my proctor clicked I agree on my behalf for some reason), the proctor pastes in the password to start the flex and your exam begins.

Once you finish, you notify your proctor who will give you instructions to rip the scrap paper you worked on and you should be good to go.

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ochbayarenkhbat891
Monday, May 18 2020

I didn't have any technical issues with the test. But I did find the LR section to be the hardest section. I usually don't struggle in LR but I struggled hard. I don't know whether it's due to pressure, anxiety, difficulty, or other reasons.

Amount of questions per section.

RC: 27

LG: 23

LR: 25

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ochbayarenkhbat891
Thursday, Jun 18 2020

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I will be taking Flex in July. Would anyone please share if scratch paper is allowed during LR? Thanks!

You are allowed 5 piece of paper and allowed to use all 5 in all sections.

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ochbayarenkhbat891
Wednesday, Jun 17 2020

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Has anyone done their writing yet? I just can't bring myself to do it lol

I haven't even done my May Flex writing yet. I took both May and June lol.

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ochbayarenkhbat891
Monday, Sep 14 2020

Everyone seems to have different wait time between their writing and its acceptance. I took mine on September 1st and it was accepted on September 8th.

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ochbayarenkhbat891
Sunday, Jun 14 2020

No. You’ll only need your Photo ID.

The rule is that you are suppose to turn it off while showing to the proctor. On my May Flex, they didn’t ask so I had to tell them and did the step just in case. They will then ask you to put it across the room.

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ochbayarenkhbat891
Sunday, Jul 12 2020

Please note tablets are not allowed. You have to download a program after the initial check-in process. iPads and other similar devices cannot download and run this program to connect to your proctor.

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Sunday, Jul 12 2020

ochbayarenkhbat891

Struggling with RNG in Actual LSAT

Dear fellow 7Sagers,

I've taken the LSAT three times now. I took it cold in 2017 June (PT 81) without every seeing an LSAT material and got a 151 (stupid, I know). I never touched the LSAT again until 2020 where I took it in May (169) and in June (171). However, these are below my PT average of 173. My section averages can be RC -1 to -3, LR -1 to -3, and LG -0.

The problem that I've noticed in the LSAT is struggling in section while doing great in the other two. In May, I felt like I aced the RC and LG but then in the LR, I somehow forgot how to read and had 8 flags before time ran out. In June, I felt like I killed LG and LR but was completely destroyed by the prescriptive vs descriptive and especially the sunken ships passages in the RC.

My question is that how can I ensure that I am able to perform in all sections regardless of difficulty? I usually don't run into this issue in my PTs. Is this a common issue during a take? I've done almost every PT above 50 and drilled 10-49 during the CC and warm-up drills.

I'm taking the August Flex for my 4th time in order to hit my average or above. Thank you for your time.

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ochbayarenkhbat891
Friday, Jul 10 2020

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Oni is spot on. Why would you need to charge 45-75$ to preview a score? The LSAC is a greedy organization that cares more about its bottom line than about the process it is supposed to facilitate. It is a shame they have law student in such a corner.

Yeah I have to say, I’m honestly glad this didn’t exist when I took the test in June. Because then I would feel like I have to pay for it because “what if.” In actuality, I wouldn’t really base the decision to cancel a test on the score. I’d only ever want to cancel if I knew I blatantly messed up on test day (like by running out of time to get to the fourth game or whatever), and that isn’t contingent on score preview.

Yes. I second this. I also took the June 2020 Flex and received a 171. I knew the moment that I hit the Sunken Ships RC, I was doomed. I did great on the Dog Apartments LG and the Victorian Bathroom LR. I knew I lost all my points in RC and felt like canceling. I'm happy with my score but I'm retaking on August to hopefully get it higher. I am current averaging 173 with plenty of 175+ so I know there are points left on the table.

I also second that I would end up paying for a feature like this which means I'd be lining up LSAC's greedy pockets.

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ochbayarenkhbat891
Friday, Jul 10 2020

It's just your score and percentile right next to each other.

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ochbayarenkhbat891
Thursday, Jul 09 2020

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How is this not incredibly unfair to those of us who took test in June, May, etc and really wanted to cancel after seeing score but now can't?

On the other hand, any new features in the LSAT will be some how "unfair" to the previous test takers. This would be an issue with the paper to digital, digital in person to digital FLEX at home, 5 sections to 3 sections, and so on.

However, I do think that the "pay to preview" scheme is a bit greedy and unfair to other first time takers who don't have access to funds for extra features like that but are slightly over the waiver requirements.

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ochbayarenkhbat891
Tuesday, Sep 08 2020

I think you'd benefit from skipping to Logic Games in the Core Curriculum and trying out the foolproofing method by 7Sage. In my experience, I foolproofed for an entire week for dozens of games and LG became second nature for me. This is because the types of rules and inferences are very limited in LG. You kind of get a sixth sense for how the games are suppose to work.

I recommend going over the universal quantifiers, existential quantifiers, and the advanced logical indicators (and/or + bi-conditionals) in the Logical Reasoning lessons. It'll help you draw out the rules in LG.

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ochbayarenkhbat891
Tuesday, Sep 08 2020

DeanZ from University of Michigan Law stated, in her YouTube video, that retail jobs on applicants' resumes impressed her very much. I think some adcoms know that retail jobs are very work intensive; it's also impressive that you worked during an academic year.

As for the addendum, I don't think you should waste adcom time if you didn't get fired or disciplined for misconduct.

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ochbayarenkhbat891
Friday, Jun 05 2020

None of those are permitted. The permitted items are listed on the FAQ for the Flex.

They will check your ears via your webcam before the exams. Nothing is permitted to be in your eyes such as earplugs, earphones, and headphones. As for face masks, I don't think there is a reasonable explanation to have it on since it is likely that you're taking it in a private room with no one else in it.

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ochbayarenkhbat891
Friday, Jun 05 2020

Congratulations! That's an amazing score and a great job from you!

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ochbayarenkhbat891
Thursday, Jul 02 2020

All Flex exams are undisclosed. The original June LSAT was disclosed exam but when they cancelled the in-person LSAT to LSAT-Flex, it became undisclosed. There are no documents to view. You'll only get your score and percentile for June LSAT-Flex 2020.

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Friday, May 01 2020

ochbayarenkhbat891

Are the 80+ PTs harder?

Hi everyone. For the past ten to fifteen PTs, I've been scoring around low-mid 170s and blind reviewing anywhere from 176-180. I recently started getting into the 80+ PT range and have taken three 80+ PTs so far. For the first two PTs (80 and 85), my score dropped to 168 and 169 respectively.

I feel like the RC has become longer and harder even with structural understanding of the passage. As for the LR, I found out that it was wordier with newer hidden tricks in the density of the stimulus.

Is there something that I can drill to address these new changes that I have perceived to be causing issues for me? Thank you.

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ochbayarenkhbat891
Monday, Jun 01 2020

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Thanks @ ! May I ask which device did you use? Thanks!

I used a custom built PC with an ultrawide 34 inch screen. I really felt like it made a positive impact on my performance.

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