Hey 7Sagers,
Here's the official May 2020 LSAT-Flex Discussion Thread.
**Please keep all discussions of the May 2020 LSAT-Flex here!**(/red)
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I am very disappointed in my experience with ProctorU and the LSAT-Flex. Here's my experience:
The proctor's mic stayed on for the first few minutes of my test (I could hear talking and other loud feedback), which was so distracting. This did not allow me to have a strong start to my exam. This proctor also interrupted me and didn't allow me to finish reading the test rules at the beginning. They also did not check my desk, surrounding area, or my scratch paper, which I thought they were supposed to do.
Towards the end my camera supposedly froze, in which the proctor interrupted my test to fix by using my cursor. My test was not paused, and I did not get time back on my test. I lost several minutes (almost 10) on LG which is huge, and they told me that they couldn't give me back the time they used to fix my technical issue. I likely bombed my last game because of this.
Additionally, my second proctor used my cursor before telling me they were going to fix a problem, aka, my cursor was flying all over the screen for me to fight with while I was trying to answer questions. This happened a few times and again, was very distracting.
Didn't they say if there's an issue, the proctors pause your test and allow you to go back after it's resolved? I was told this at least over the phone by LSAC.
The whole thing was incredibly upsetting and unprofessional. We all pay $200 for this test, expecting good conditions and minimal distractions. My proctors were a big part of the issue, and now my plans for law school are pushed back because I have to take it again... Did any one else have similar issues?
For people asking about the procedure for testing, it went like this.
When the counter goes down to zero, it changes to “start exam” button. It launches a portal that checks your computer for webcam, microphone, internet speed and so on.
You are prompted accept terms and conditions to share your information, screen, and recording.
Verify your face by taking a photo through the ProctorU portal and present your identification card.
When you pass the preliminary, the portal makes you download an app from ProctorU which launches a chat box that puts you in queue for a proctor. This process took me 5 minutes and the proctor arrived 5 minutes later.
The proctor will take over control of your PC and check if other programs are running and if there is a second monitor. Then they will ask you to show your work environment (4 corners, mirror, under desk, blank sheets, pencils, and so on).
Once you complete the step above, the proctor will ask you to log into your lawhub and go to the flex section. They may or may not ask you to read the terms for the last flex.
Once you accept the terms (my proctor clicked I agree on my behalf for some reason), the proctor pastes in the password to start the flex and your exam begins.
Once you finish, you notify your proctor who will give you instructions to rip the scrap paper you worked on and you should be good to go.
That’s BS. The only one of those problems I also had was the proctor mic coming on at the start of my test, which was indeed pretty annoying. Losing 10 mins of LG? You deserve a refund at a minimum.
I didn't have any technical issues with the test. But I did find the LR section to be the hardest section. I usually don't struggle in LR but I struggled hard. I don't know whether it's due to pressure, anxiety, difficulty, or other reasons.
Amount of questions per section.
RC: 27
LG: 23
LR: 25
Did anybody else's proctor try to tell them they were not allowed to use scratch paper or a writing instrument?
I told her as politely as I could that she must have been misinformed, and a few minutes later she came back saying sorry and started the test...
Why on earth are proctors just not showing up to their times?? They need to be fired if they can't do their one job. I can't imagine waiting 2 hours to start the test, I would get so hungry if I just had to sit there and stare at the screen waiting for the proctor to pop up......
Good luck everyone!! May the glitches and computer malfunctions be GONE!
@31451 said:
TLDR: if you have a MacBook, make alternate plans and use another computer/laptop for flex.
I had my flex exam today. I have a MacBook Air. I logged in and could not get the system to register. I did all the necessary prechecks and everything worked fine. I waited for an tech for over an hour. I was told that proctor u does not interface correctly OS software. I had to install something on the system preferences and close out of proctor u. When I logged back in my exam wasn’t active. The tech told me I had to reschedule and in order to reschedule I had to pay $12. I went full on Karen at that point and said I wasn’t paying to reschedule since it wasn’t my fault I had to wait for assistance. I got transferred to someone else who rescheduled my test for, 3 hours after the original start time. So I had to wait for my new time. During that time I decided to use my surface instead of my MacBook and when it came time to log in I did without any issues.
Sorry to hear this. Took the test on MacBook Air and everything was fine.
Best of luck to eveyone today! Take stock....if they give you a negative turn it into a positive...Thanks for everything JY!
@dimakyure869 It sucks so much. I already complained and asked for a refund and voucher for the next test lol. I hope they create another test date this summer so I can get a good test score down before fall applications...
I also had the same issues as you all. I lost a total of 3 minutes because my webcam stopped working and they took over my screen. it was very frustrating and im truly upset because they kept messaging me telling me that there was something wrong with my screen. And yes, 200 is a lot of money especially when you're applying for a bunch of schools as well.
https://www.change.org/p/law-school-admission-council-lsac-allow-candidates-the-option-to-preview-lsat-flex-scores-prior-to-score-cancellation?utm_content=cl_sharecopy_22282304_en-US%3Av10&recruiter=1091981844&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition&utm_term=share_petition
There's actually a petition going around requesting that the LSAC allows May LSAT Flexers to view their scores before cancelling. Not sure how effective it'll be but maybe worth a try
@zobidaalali285 said:
Considering all these issues I really feel like the LSAT Flex should be like the first digital test taken where they allowed you to see your score and then cancel. It is unfair they're not treating this like the big change it is.
I just finished my LSAT Flex. I had no technical issues at all and really enjoyed taking it at home.
Similar to what others have said, LR seemed totally normal, LG on the easier side, RC on the harder side (really just quite long). Looking forward to June 5!
Congratulations to everyone who completed the test.
Make sure you all advocate for yourselves and call/email LSAC over the issues!!! They said they need to know feedback and to email testsecurity@alberta107638.org if you are looking to get a refund/voucher for the next test. Maybe if they get enough requests for refunds we'll have a higher chance of another summer test... I was on hold with LSAC for over 30 minutes on the phone to complain lol
im hearing people have trouble connecting, and the wait time is like an hour and half to 2 hours long.
a friend was in the middle of going over the process, and transferred over to tech, and then when transferring back, the new proctor literally ended the session, so she had to restart all over again. and she's still waiting, she was suppose to start at 3
can you complain about this? the emotional and mental stress of this uncertainty of waiting is crazy
Wow, I am taking the test tomorrow and that makes me nervous. Can we just turn the volume on our computer off so if they are making noise we don't have to have it distract us? or is that not allowed for some reason?
It would have been better for LSAC people to have at least done beta testing of this new approach before subjecting their "paid consumers (test takers)" to technical and anxiety inducing and frankly distracting/challenging testing conditions. Clearly test takers (consumers) did NOT expect to be put under stress before a stressful test. It is unfair to pass LSAC business uncertainties due to technical challenges (and possibly other challenges) onto consumers and expect business as usual.
Considering all these issues I really feel like the LSAT Flex should be like the first digital test taken where they allowed you to see your score and then cancel. It is unfair they're not treating this like the big change it is.
I had zero problems and my proctor did not even verbally speak to me. She only spoke through a messaging app. Just wanted to put this out there for those who have not taken their test yet! Your experience does not have to be bad, it probably won’t be bad, and if it is LSAC will most definitely make it up! Positive vibes and good luck!!!
LSAC predetermines curves unlike some other standardized tests. They won’t adjust it based on complaints. Their response to complaints is a free retake.
I was scheduled for an early morning exam and the setup was relatively easy. The proctor got me set up right away. One thing that annoyed me, like others have said, was that their mic was on so I kept hearing him help other takers as they were coming in. It felt weird to mute my proctor so I just had to keep the volume low. All in all, an interesting experience.
As for the exam, overall I found it challenging but not overly so. One game tripped me up and I had to guess for the most part, and I didn't really get one of the RC passages. LR was straightforward.
This was such an awful experience! I spent nearly 2 hours (pre-test) either waiting in a chat room for tech support, chatting with a useless bot or chatting with a live person who I'm pretty sure was preoccupied with something else (he kept being MIA). I finally got connected to a proctor after struggling for 30 mins to install the applet. And like some of the other posters, my proctor didn't really check my environment at all...he checked my ID and made sure I didn't have a watch on, but that was it. All the time I spent waiting and trying to get connected really threw me off. By the time I was finally able to take the test, I was so flustered and tense that I couldnt really concentrate. I also lost time (at least 10 min), during LG due to a tech issue and was not able to get the time back! Talk about pissed! I asked him to see if he could figure out a way for me to get the time back, but I didn't expect him to send me multiple chat message updates while I was still taking the test. All that did was further distract me, and in the end I still didn't even get the time back. I got a new proctor during section 3, and once I finished the test I asked her about getting the time back as well, but she didn't have a clue as to what to do. She was asking me what website she had to go on to reload the test -_-. She finally gave up and said she couldn't help me, but she would leave a note for my instructor explaining what happened. I was like...WHAT??? This is not a simple unit test, mid-term or final exam lady, so there is no instructor! She really didn't even know the nature of the test. IDK what I'm going to do next. I called LSAC as soon as I logged off and it took me 45 minutes to get through to them, only to be told that I should send a detailed email about what happened. I did that earlier, so now I'm just waiting to hear back from them, but I honestly don't want to retake the entire test...sigh :(
Just finished my exam. I had to wait over an hour just for a proctor to connect, so sitting there did not help with my stress. I struggled with logic games compared to usual, but I feel RC and LR were comparative to most sections for me!
@zaney930276 said:
Did anyone combine their writing sample with the FLEX to avoid having to go through the process twice?
yea i never had a writing sample before i just took it right after the flex. maybe wasnt a good idea because i cried for a few minutes after cause of LG so maybe not best headspace loool.
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