@profile427 said: If the real LG section is the one identified above, I had it right after the break, and I totally bombed because I lost my flow, despite getting my blood flowing, eating, and drinking. I really lost my cool, sadly, and ended up filling in bubbles just to get some answers down. I was hoping for upper 150s, but I think that real LG may have killed that hope, unless I'm really lucky.
My LG was also the one right after the break. With the Fall/Spring stuff, pretty sure that is the real LG as it's the only one I had.
I didn't think of it, but the break might have ruined my flow too ugh.
Don't stress, I think we all fucked up this section.
I'm hoping that the 2nd LR was the experimental.....I just remember that the 3rd one had a disagree question, in which one of the guys name was like "Jung Soo" (I only remember because i was thinking 'korean represent'!) the same one also had the one about ancient birds with hissing.
I'm hoping that the one with Newspapers and when they should publish certain things, was the experimental...
Same test layout, felt the same about each section, remember the hissing question. I got shrek'd by that LR section. I honestly felt it was harder than normal.
Please LSACgod be the experimental section. My entire score is relying on that being the EXP hahaha. It's the difference between me getting a 165 and sub-160.
I think it was graded though. Let's just hope lady luck was on my side.
EDIT: or maybe my 3rd LR section did have the hissing and not the 2nd. Who knows. I need to stop thinking about it hahaha.
OK thank God the spring/fall section is real. Only section I have confidence in.
After thinking back on it, the shift work question is actually really easy, just that no one would expect to make that many game boards before starting the questions
@singerhanna I'm not sure about the number of questions...i never checked how many there were but the fact that I think I had 25 is making me freak out and think I misbubbled haha
I feel really good about it, but that scares me. I've never felt good about a PT before, so now I'm panicking. Especially because the last LG seemed too simple while the 3rd one was rough.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I think the curve for this test was determined like over 3 years ago and not on the distribution of how the collective test takers did today. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
@DumbHollywoodActor I think you're right in part, but that they take the wretched 3 weeks between test date and release date to adjust accordingly. So basically they have a projected curve and might tinker with it, say if a bunch of people bomb the real section of the LG. I'm pretty sure that's part of the reason it takes so long to get scores back.
But seriously guys... glad to hear I wasn't the only one that stumbled through the real LG section. I have worked so hard at games and thought I was in good shape! I don't know what happened! I'm seriously hoping they adjust that curve.........
Awoodwo1 - you're not alone... I screwed up the LGs; games 2 and 3 threw off my timing.... Irritated b/c I spent a good amount of time thinking I could get -4 or less on that section....
Just took the October test after getting a 160 in June. I think the LG section was harder this time with the LR and RC being about average with the rest of the 70-75 tests. I also moved on to the 4th (much easier game) and came back to the 3rd. I'm just hoping my other 3 sections make up for what I know will be a below average LG for me. It seemed like the curve breaker LR questions were harder then I usually find them, but they didn't seem to bad after eliminating wrong answers. I also switched test centers this time and that was a terrible decision. My new location had everyone in the same room in the middle of a library filled with people and very crowded tables. Probably going to retake again in December if I don't get at least a 164.
@DByrne07 said: Awoodwo1 - you're not alone... I screwed up the LGs; games 2 and 3 threw off my timing.... Irritated b/c I spent a good amount of time thinking I could get -4 or less on that section....
Game 2 wasn't bad, I think it just ate a lot of time, I didn't even realize it. Literally I thought I was on pace until I hit game 3, misread a rule, tried every question in the first question to realize nothing worked, panicked, went back and saw I misread the rule, fixed it, looked at my clock to see 10min. Like WUUUUUUT even happened.
This is my first time taking the test and after it I left numb. For me the hardest section was reading comp. I felt like every passage was difficult to grasp but maybe because it was section one. The logic games I think i did good on (all except the shift game. And the LR I honestly don't know how I did. So I am nervous. But if I do bad is it ok to retake in February.
@GordonBombay Yea it was. Last time I took it at the Collin County learning center or something. We had a huge table to ourselves and there were only like 15 people to a room. If you retake I would highly recommend you take it there and not UNT.
Since this was my second round today since 2013, I have to say that it was helpful that I had a baseline and knew what to expect. Speaking to a handful of first-timers in line was interesting, and I found myself trying to chill them out (mama bear, I dunno).
Another thing I learned, which may be more due to the fact that this was my second time, is that it was so much nicer taking the LSAT at a community college versus NU (one of my alma maters).
I thought that I would feel more "at home" at NU (don't they always so "test where you're familiar?"), but in retrospect it felt like a pressure cooker with too many competitive molecules flying through the air. The CC where I sat for the LSAT today gave me an entire table to myself and was carpeted (meaning less chair noises and screeching). The CC setting seemed to have a bit more diversity in age, too, which helped me realize that it's okay to try this as a second career.
However, in the end, I've dropped a good chunk of cash on taking the test twice, in addition to testing materials and courses, so I kind of feel like with whatever happens this time around, this is it. Unless I end up applying and shoot for February for some scholarship money (or does it not work out that way)?
All I know is that "real LG" completely fried me today and made me question all things good in this world.
@simon_wood Tests outside of the US are undisclosed and are totally different from the ones test-takers in the US get. I took the LSAT the first time in Germany and when PT 72 was released, not a single question I could remember was the same as what I saw on PT 72.
@simon_wood i took the test in Asia and this is all very confusing to me because i had a COMPLETELY different test from what everyone is talking about here. Did you have a LG problem about straight through vs layover flights? i only had one LG so i know it wasn't experimental. i have never heard that they administer completely different tests on the same day based on region!!
@mssmith2893 how was the Asia test for you? @simon_wood How was the test in England? I've been reading on TLS and it's interesting to hear the different views. With the exception of Game 3 on LG they all seem to be very happy with the U.S. Test.
They have to give different ones in countries that are separated by a significant enough number of time zones because you could just call someone and tell them information about the test after you finish and before they go in...
I bombed the last RC passage. I had no idea what it was talking about. Potentially missed all 8 questions associated with it My average on practice tests was in the 170s, but there is no way I broke 170 on the test. I also really messed up timing throughout the test, which I never do during practice tests. I straight up guessed on 4-5 questions. I'll probably retake in December, and this time around, I will DEFINITELY practice timing with my watch. I used the 7Sage App while studying, which was much easier to use than a watch. I kept forgetting to reset my watch, and I found myself playing with it some during the test!
I got also two LGs. The first one was so easy to be true; when doing that LG, I was kind of scare of what was waiting for me after the break. The second one was on section 5 (it was difficult). I think I messed up in RC (Beethoven...) I did not finished the last one (Newtown..), which seem kind of easy.
@zoew1021 said: I will DEFINITELY practice timing with my watch
I got a $15 watch from Walmart that had an elapsed time bezel. 2nd best investment that I made for the test (2nd to 7sage). I would just move the bezel to the time that we were starting new sections and see where the minute hand was on the bezel rather than worrying about resetting my watch between each section or doing math to see where the 35 minute mark would be. I don't know if you had trouble with that, but it was why I was using the 7sage App on my PTs.
I asked to make sure I could have two watches (my watch broke during a PT so I wanted to have a backup) even though I knew I could, but I wanted to put it in the proctors' awareness so I wouldn't run into trouble during the exam, but another proctor pointed at my second watch, rather angry, while I was doing the LG section, and started saying "You--" but then something must have clicked because she said "sorry" and moved on.
@mssmith2893 yes that's the exact LG I had!! Was your experimental LR? My format was LR RC LR / LR LG. I thought LG was surprisingly ok, the first 3 a shot through but then layover game was kinda tricky but still think I did ok. First LR was alright, I suck at RC anyway so found that a little difficult, 2nd LR was kinda hard and 3rd LR was ok-ish. We must have a totally different test to everyone else
@mes08 Yeah knew it was undisclosed because I took it in June too, very annoying. Weird how they give a different one to foreigners though, I guess it's to stop any possibility of cheating due to the timezone complications etc, makes sense. Oh well, hope I did alright...
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I didn't think of it, but the break might have ruined my flow too ugh.
Don't stress, I think we all fucked up this section.
I had 3 LRs:
RC
LR (easy)
LR (hard)
LG
LR (medium)
I'm hoping that the 2nd LR was the experimental.....I just remember that the 3rd one had a disagree question, in which one of the guys name was like "Jung Soo" (I only remember because i was thinking 'korean represent'!) the same one also had the one about ancient birds with hissing.
I'm hoping that the one with Newspapers and when they should publish certain things, was the experimental...
anyone???
I had the exact same sequence of sections as you: LR 26, LR 26, RC, LR 25 LG
Please LSACgod be the experimental section. My entire score is relying on that being the EXP hahaha. It's the difference between me getting a 165 and sub-160.
I think it was graded though. Let's just hope lady luck was on my side.
EDIT: or maybe my 3rd LR section did have the hissing and not the 2nd. Who knows. I need to stop thinking about it hahaha.
true. I think you are right about that.
The hissing birds one was real
After thinking back on it, the shift work question is actually really easy, just that no one would expect to make that many game boards before starting the questions
Hahah I feel the same way but about that second LR....
Do you or anyone know which of those sections te running elephants was in?? Because I heard that one was real
It was all similar game types.
Sorry! I think we're overthinking..
At least now I can justify having drinner tonight.
But seriously guys... glad to hear I wasn't the only one that stumbled through the real LG section. I have worked so hard at games and thought I was in good shape! I don't know what happened! I'm seriously hoping they adjust that curve.........
Another thing I learned, which may be more due to the fact that this was my second time, is that it was so much nicer taking the LSAT at a community college versus NU (one of my alma maters).
I thought that I would feel more "at home" at NU (don't they always so "test where you're familiar?"), but in retrospect it felt like a pressure cooker with too many competitive molecules flying through the air. The CC where I sat for the LSAT today gave me an entire table to myself and was carpeted (meaning less chair noises and screeching). The CC setting seemed to have a bit more diversity in age, too, which helped me realize that it's okay to try this as a second career.
However, in the end, I've dropped a good chunk of cash on taking the test twice, in addition to testing materials and courses, so I kind of feel like with whatever happens this time around, this is it. Unless I end up applying and shoot for February for some scholarship money (or does it not work out that way)?
All I know is that "real LG" completely fried me today and made me question all things good in this world.
Wtf.
If this person is correct then so are you DHA.