@jrrphd The ideal answer is the best possible answer you can come up with. It'll contain explicit language that was seen in the stimulus, and rephrases the main conclusion verbatim in the answer choice. You are not always going to see the ideal answer choice in an LSAT question.
Often times question stems that contain verbiage such as "best represents the main conclusion" etc. will have answer choices that are not necessarily ideal, but will still share the same conceptual meaning. The right answer choice in these instances will paraphrase the main conclusion instead of adopting verbatim language seen in the stimulus. In essence, the right/correct answer choice to any main conclusion question will always be the question that is most provable from the stimulus.
I'm confused by what this means: "The right answer can also use a referential phrase in which case you have to point it back to the stimulus to make sure it's correct." What would this look like, and how would it work? Thanks!
@isabella.pliska In a conclusion sentence it can have a referential phrase like "Such criticism explains" and this would be a referential phrase to the criticism that was given by the other people's argument.
Or in some answer choices it'll have "these criticisms are never sincere" and referential phrase for that could be "these criticisms are insincere". since never sincere and insincere mean the same things.
This is my understanding, I Hope this helps and maybe watch the earlier lessons of referential phrases that can help you pick them out of answer choices easier. It is basically just statements that come right from the text/stimulus.
When the answer is like "This _ is sincere". The blank part is referring to something in the stimulus. We just have to make sure the answer choice is making the correct reference.
#feedback: typo in last paragraph of Various types of arguments: “Some arguments lay out a general principal…and apply that principal to a specific case…
A stimulus is the question stem, as well as the question and answers so like its basically stimulus = the question. for example:
“Marine biologist: Scientists have long wondered why the fish that live around coral reefs exhibit such brilliant colors. One suggestion is that coral reefs are colorful and, therefore, that colorful fish are camouflaged by them. Many animal species, after all, use camouflage to avoid predators. However, as regards to the populations around the reefs, this suggestion is mistaken. A reef stripped of its fish is quite monochromatic. Most corals, it turns out, are relatively dull browns and greens."
I know there is one in version one with a chart explaining the diff parts of a question - a stimulus is just the text, then there are question stems (the question) & the answer choices
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Just went to the LR cheat sheet and did the drill. I got 5/5!! Definitely went over time, but that's alright!! On to the next.
These lessons are very helpful.
What is the distinction between a right answer and an ideal answer?
@jrrphd The ideal answer is the best possible answer you can come up with. It'll contain explicit language that was seen in the stimulus, and rephrases the main conclusion verbatim in the answer choice. You are not always going to see the ideal answer choice in an LSAT question.
Often times question stems that contain verbiage such as "best represents the main conclusion" etc. will have answer choices that are not necessarily ideal, but will still share the same conceptual meaning. The right answer choice in these instances will paraphrase the main conclusion instead of adopting verbatim language seen in the stimulus. In essence, the right/correct answer choice to any main conclusion question will always be the question that is most provable from the stimulus.
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This is the best lesson! Thank you.
I'm confused by what this means: "The right answer can also use a referential phrase in which case you have to point it back to the stimulus to make sure it's correct." What would this look like, and how would it work? Thanks!
@isabella.pliska In a conclusion sentence it can have a referential phrase like "Such criticism explains" and this would be a referential phrase to the criticism that was given by the other people's argument.
Or in some answer choices it'll have "these criticisms are never sincere" and referential phrase for that could be "these criticisms are insincere". since never sincere and insincere mean the same things.
This is my understanding, I Hope this helps and maybe watch the earlier lessons of referential phrases that can help you pick them out of answer choices easier. It is basically just statements that come right from the text/stimulus.
What is he meaning by "phenomenon"
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https://7sage.com/lesson/phenomenon/
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#feedback second paragraph - It's also a great introduction because we got a glimpse into the various types of argument in LR.
"argument" should be plural to "arguments"
Main Conclusion: foundation of the LR
Not identifying the conclusion of the argument → can't do any kind of analysis of the argument
=> forces you to practice fundamental
Context could be others' hypothesis or not, but regardless, the author provides their hypothesis.
Context → Could be a phenomenon but doesn't have to be
When there's a context, the conclusion tends to be present right after the context.
Arguments → Made by analogy
Made with premises that work or independent premises
Predictive (conclusion is the prediction of the future)
Lay out a general principle / rule + apply that to a specific case to arrive at
a specific conclusion
Patterns in the
Stimulus
→ Tends to contain contextual information
→ Conclusion can be short, containing a referential that points to something in the context
→ Can contain within the
main argument + sub-argument
with its own minor premise supporting its sub-conclusion
then goes on to function as a major premise supporting the main conclusion
Right Answer
→ Fills out the referential phrase (make sure it's done correctly!)
→ Make sure it's correct by double-checking the referential phrase in the stimulus
→ Doesn't have to be an ideal answer—could be more general than the conclusion
> Appeal what lies on a reasonable spectrum
Wrong Answer
→ Stating a context / other people's position
→ An assumption of an argument
→ Sub-conclusion / main premises
→ Leveraging various potential grammar / logical confusion to make the answer stem
sounds like a statement made in the stimulus
Just wondering what it means for the correct answer to "fill out the referential" in the stimulus.
When the answer is like "This _ is sincere". The blank part is referring to something in the stimulus. We just have to make sure the answer choice is making the correct reference.
#feedback: typo in last paragraph of Various types of arguments: “Some arguments lay out a general principal…and apply that principal to a specific case…
Hi there,
Great catch! We have corrected the error. Thank you so much.
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Can someone please explain what a stimulus is? I tried searching for it but could not find it. Thank you !!!
it's the passage.
A stimulus is the question stem, as well as the question and answers so like its basically stimulus = the question. for example:
“Marine biologist: Scientists have long wondered why the fish that live around coral reefs exhibit such brilliant colors. One suggestion is that coral reefs are colorful and, therefore, that colorful fish are camouflaged by them. Many animal species, after all, use camouflage to avoid predators. However, as regards to the populations around the reefs, this suggestion is mistaken. A reef stripped of its fish is quite monochromatic. Most corals, it turns out, are relatively dull browns and greens."
the entire thing is the stimulus, hope this helps
#feedback do we ever get a plain explanation of what a stimulus is ? where can i find that?
I know there is one in version one with a chart explaining the diff parts of a question - a stimulus is just the text, then there are question stems (the question) & the answer choices
It's somewhere in the beginning of the foundations. I can't find the exact spot, but it is explained.
It's in the second lesson of this section I believe.
The stimulus is the passage you read/analyze
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#feedback is the first sentence a typo? "Main Conclusion (or Main Point) questions are the foundations of Logical Reasoning"
Hi there,
I checked into this and can confirm that the grammar of the first sentence is correct.
Let me know if you have any questions!