I've been reading a lot that most softs don't matter at all except in tie breaker situations. Is this true? I just did my LSAC GPA calculation and it dropped my GPA a whole point and a half (sigh) but I have extremely relevant work experience (negotiate contracts/represent individuals in arbitrations and employment hearings for a union) and military service. I'm kind of hoping that's still looked at, but the more I read on the subject the less important softs seem to be.

I am curious what is the relevance and weight that will be placed on work and internship experience for law school admissions and then also (and perhaps more importantly) once one gets into law school and needs to find a job once in law school & upon graduation. I currently have no legal experience but am not sure how important it is that I gain experience before entering law school -maybe not so much because I believe it could harm my chances of getting in as I am afraid it would harm my chances of getting a job in or after law school. I am in my junior year of undergrad and at this point desire to apply to law schools this fall and go straight to law school after graduation. According to my pre-law advisor at my undergrad university (UC Berkeley), law schools do not place as much weight on experience (as LSAT and GPA) in terms of admissions. However, I am unsure exactly how much it would affect me after getting into a law school. Does anyone have concrete advise on this issue?

Hi everyone!

I'm kind of stuck with a few good offers, but a lot of silence.

Full scholarships from ASU and IU. (Took Feb. LSAT so I know I'm late to the game.)

Complete silence from: BU, Georgetown, Vandy, UVA, BC, UW. Has anyone else NOT heard from these schools? Afraid of what the silence means.

For some background, currently enrolled in undergrad at Purdue, hoping to work in foreign affairs or for a multinational corporation. Brother in Boston. Parents retiring in Phoenix. S/O in Seattle. Vandy/Georgetown were my reaches, but it looks like I could get in, given their LSN profiles.

Some of you know that my dream school is UTA, but my scores fall below the qualifications, and I am in that 0-10% range in LSAC for acceptance. I am not expecting miracles here, but I was wondering if I could push my chances up by a point by sending in a "Why UT?" essay to the admissions office?

If so, how do you go about that? Do you just send an e-mail attachment to the admissions office and title it with a "Why UT? Letter add on to admissions committee for consideration" type of thing? Also, if I wished to add an addendum , could I do the same?

My application was sent in about a month ago, and it's possible that I receive an answer soon. I may be too late, as a matter of fact. Still, in case I am not, are these things I should do? Or is it best to wait it out at this point?

First off, I wanted to thank 7sage and its awesome community for its support through this LSAT endeavor. It hasn't been a smooth and silky road, but i've made it through thanks to some webinars, lessons, and chat discussions. Thank you all.

I took the feb LSAT, and the re-take was a moderates success. I ended up with a 165, froze on the games and had to blindly guess on i think 8-9 questions. Still, I got into the University of Washington with that score, and i'll soon find out about scholarship info.

Im happy that I was accepted, but because i was scoring 170-172 on my PT's, (and feeling like I could still improve), my aspirations were a bit higher. So now, I'm deciding whether to just accept this route towards UW or wait one more year to take one last crack at the LSAT. My s/o was accepted at her ideal university, also here in Washington, and my whole family is here as well, so there is that additional consideration of even if I do get a higher score on another take and get accepted to a goal school, would I really be emotionally able to leave? It's also just still kind of hard thing for me to swallow to accept this last take as final, as i've figured out (as much as i can) the anxiety issue that made me freeze.

These thoughts have just been bouncing around in my brain for a while, and mostly I think just writing/posting this will help the decision making process. But still, any thoughts/opinions?

Thank you all again for being such an awesome community these past months.

I've been tearing up for the past hour haha. Never imagined I would be making a post like this on 7Sage.

Just wanted to thank this awesome community and @"david.busis" . The advice I received on this forum and blind review calls has been invaluable.

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Thank you 7sage. The waiting process of admissions has been brutal but this week I got into both of my dream schools! None of this would have been possible without this amazing community. I cannot say enough times how awesome 7sage is and everytime I see what is new it seems to be getting better and better. I love this community and owe so much to many people here. THANK YOUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!

If LSAC does not process your transcript before the application deadline, are you just screwed? I know you can still submit your application to the school even if your transcript and LORs are not processed, but do the schools consider your application to be incomplete and just not accept it?

So I recently have been considering schools and careers beyond what I originally have thought of doing. I am curious aboutthe University of Virginia's Law School and would love to hear anyone's experience with them (interviews, what they're looking for in an applicant, etc.). Thanks!

**Edited this post because this is the internet and therefore I need to be extra careful that the intended meaning is conveyed.

This is an email I received today from a law school. I've received several emails from law schools daily since writing for the LSAT last December. The problem is that I didn't reach my target score, so every successive email serves as a reminder of my formerly misguided prep (I immediately unsubscribe). But this email alarmed/amused me.

This is a Tier 8 law school apparently so desperate to fill their classrooms that they don't even ask you to take the LSAT (or the GRE). It's alarming because I regard this sort of email as predatory -- particularly for students who may not know better or are feeling down about a poor score. And it's amusing because, well, it's just so absurd! It's absurd because here is a school whose sole premise for why we should apply there is that we don't need to take the LSAT.

To anyone out there frustrated with their first, second, or third take, your score doesn't define you. The 7Sage community is here to support us all in our LSAT pursuits so that when it's all said and done, we're left without regrets. But for some of us, despite our wishes, dreams, hard work, or expenditures, Law School may not be the best option. If you are even considering a school such as the one who sent me this email, please, PLEASE contact a Sage, Mentor, or Tutor in this community and chat. I promise there will be no shortage of knowledgeable people ready listen and share feedback.

"Instead, it considers an essay test that the school itself has developed and most importantly, it is read and graded by a full time MSLAW professor who, based upon years of practical and academic experience, is well qualified to assess an applicant's ability to think and write well. The requirement of a mandatory interview, the review of an applicant's entire record in school and the work force, and the essay aptitude test enable the Admissions Committee to identify worthy students who would be denied admission to traditional law schools simply because of their LSAT scores.

Applications are still being accepted for the Fall 2017 Semester. Apply Today!

Best,"

Hi all,

I have a question. I am applying to law school this fall, but am wanting to take some courses as a visiting student at Columbia's MSW program in Spring of 2018. Would I still have to send those transcripts to LSAC/CAS even if I am applying in the fall and will be completely done with applications by December of 2017? I checked online and it said I should send all transcripts, but is the best thing to do just call and ask the schools?

My only concern is risking looking like I don't know what I want to do if I take some MSW courses... the reason being for, honestly, just academic pleasure. I am really interested in social work.

Thanks y'all,

Hey,

I've been put on the preferred waitlist at two t-14 school and wont know if I got off the waitlist until after May. However, one of the non- t-14 but still really solid school gave me until May,1st to accept the full scholarship public interest fellowship and if I don't accept it by then, I won't receive the full ride. However accepting the fellowship means that I have to withdraw my application from all other schools. Honestly, I want to be a public interest lawyer and the school which I received a full ride to is a very strong program for that. However, the two t-14 schools I was waitlisted at have more name recognition but since I was waitlisted I assume I wont be receiving much if any scholarships to go into those schools even if accepted, is that a correct assumption? Is getting the risk of the waitlist at a t-14 worth passing up a full ride scholarship?

Trying to decide whether it is worth it to go to a T-8 in US or stay in Canada to go to UBC; sitting on a good offer from T-8, admission but no $ from UBC. Am a dual citizen, and want to practice in public interest or move into legal academia; no biglaw aspirations.

I just wanted to take a few moments to praise 7Sage, the Admissions Course and especially the Personal Statement editing session. I spent so much time scouring the internet to find the right way to study for the LSAT and the right way to get the best application possible and wasn't finding anything I felt would actually work for me, until I found 7Sage. While my LSAT score was rather unimpressive, it was definitely an improvement from where I was when I started, 7Sage helped me understand the LSAT and helped me score pretty highly on practice tests. I choked and panicked when it came to the real thing (entirely my fault), but I was intent on applying with my low score anyway. With the help of the Admissions Course, I was able to form an overall great application, and I believe my personal statement is what made my application stand out. After just the one editing session I purchased on here, my PS looked 100x better.

In short: 7Sage, and @"david.busis" helped get me into my dream school, Emory, even when LSAC gave me less than a 10% chance of getting in, so thank you so much!

This is probably a dumb question but is timing of response indicative of a better outcome or just of a glut of applicants?

For instance, if I am waiting on a school for a couple of months, does that mean I am still in play or could it basically mean anything?

https://today.law.harvard.edu/gre/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=hls-twitter-general

I wonder how many other schools will make this change and how soon.

Hey guys,

Just got a response from Baylor that I have been wait-listed due to lack of seat availability for the fall semester. They gave me the offer of being automatically accepted for the spring semester if I reapply, but that's a ways away. Does anyone know what the usual protocol for being waitlisted is? Is it a toss- up, basically a zero chance, or somewhere in between?

You can find the entire article here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2017/03/08/harvard-law-school-will-no-longer-require-the-lsat-for-admission/?utm_term=.6851f69ab16d

Pretty surprised. What do you think this might mean? Will other schools adopt a similar policy? I've heard the GRE isn't quite as challenging as the LSAT... By potentially broadening the student applicant base, will this negatively affect those who take the LSAT?

GTown has been knocked out of the T14

Wo.

Who do you send these to and how do you send them out now? Email or via direct mail?

Percent of grads in 100 largest law firms

By now, I am sure you have all seen the leaked rankings. Obviously Berkley and Georgetown make the headlines but you have schools like Rutgers jumping 30 spots. What do you think caused so much movement this year? Do you really think that certain schools have made either drastic improvements or have drastically fallen back in the span of a year?

I am currently in my 3rd year of undergrad and planning to apply to law schools this fall for Fall 2018. I was wondering how the admission decision process works for Ontario law schools. Since I am applying during my 4th year, will they wait all the way till June 2018 to let me know of a decision? Or will they let me know earlier such as in January or February 2018? And what happens in the case if I get wait-listed? I am assuming September 2017 will be the last LSAT I will be writing.

Thanks!

Hey guys I'm new to the forums and love all the content!

Here's the short of it. I graduated from Rutgers with a middling GPA I worked for a year after at a non-profit and graduated from Seton Hall with a dual masters in diplomacy and MBA in supply chain. I've worked for a year on the Hill during that time and now work for a logistics firm. I want to go into trade or corp law and am worried that my undergrad GPA will affect my admission to a top school even though I graduated with honors from Seton Hall. I do community service, speak German, and have some decent connections. Would I essentially need to get in the mid 170s + to get into a top tier school? Thanks for any feedback guys!

-Will

Hey hey!!

I've been AWOL for awhile. Anyway, I got a 5 point increase from what I scored in 2014. I could have done better, but I also could have done worse. So, that's life. I took the score increase and smiled knowing I rocked the games section and probably had nerves get to me more than I should have. Shout out to 7Sage for the advice, curriculum, momentum, ect. You guys are the best out there.

I decided to apply and see what happens and (as a result of a little Peace Corps stint) got all my applications fee waived. 18 schools later and I'm beginning to hear back. Thus far, I am waiting on about 12 schools. My top choices are still MIA. However, my bro said I should probably start to think about my top 2 options and get some opinions on them.

So, it's right now Iowa v. Boston College. VERY different locations. Iowa essentially offered me a full ride and BC offered me like 1/3rd. Initially I would have gone straight for Iowa, but BC has better placements in the Boston/NYC area (an area I'd prefer to be in long term). Iowa, however, could open some doors for me in Chicago which is a city I also really like and I am from very close by.

Background: I really am not into Big Law. My current interests are in advocacy law and public interest. The dream is to work for DOJ or state govt. but that may even be a reach as I'd be competing with HYS students. I'd also like to eventually maneuver into public policy work focused on children's rights. Short term, I could see myself starting in juvenile court. I'd be open to the private sector mainly working in family law dealing with adoptions/custody. But BL isn't my game.

All thoughts/opinions would be nice to hear. Thanks team :)