I decided to take a gap year at the last minute after my recommenders had already submitted my letters of rec into LSAC. Can I still use these letters when applying for the next cycle or should I get them updated. Idk what to do because one was a professor I haven’t had for awhile so there isn’t anything to update and one is from an internship I had for a semester where there also isn’t anything to update anymore.

Hello. I have noticed that the Law School Admissions Predictor appears to overestimate my chances of getting into some of the listed law schools. For example, there is one school in which I supposedly have a 69% chance (likely target) of getting accepted, although I am below both medians for LSAT and GPA. With this in mind, should I continue to utilize the Law School Admissions Predictor in narrowing down the list of law schools that I should apply to this fall?

Hello all,

It’s safe to say that my GPA isn’t the greatest, and it’s mediocre at best. I finished college with a 3.3 GPA in Political Science, albeit with an upward trend where I was on academic probation the first year of college. I am hoping to achieve a 160 on the LSAT with one year of studying. Does anyone else have a similar GPA with a success story? I’m really hoping I am not putting in work to realize that my chances at law school are bleak. I know the acceptance predictor exists, but I have a hard time believing how accurate it is.

Thanks everyone

Throughout my time studying for the LSAT, drafting my law school application materials, and simply trying to find the motivation to continue on when the going got rough, I feel like I need to share my journey to law school story with others on here who may be experiencing the same things I once felt. I found these post to be extremely helpful when I was going through every stage of applying to law school, so hopefully this will help someone else too!

Over the past two years I have spent hundreds of hours studying for the LSAT, taking it a whopping four times, to only score a 158 on my highest attempt. Don't get me wrong, this is a GREAT score, so please do NOT feel discouraged if you are scoring in this range! I am grateful for this score, however, I feel like it did not display my true academic, or LSAT potential. Unfortunately for me, I ran into countless difficulties every time I took the test. Whether it was issues with proctors interrupting and closing out my test, unable to access the online exam, and even having my wifi cutting out during the exam, I believed these issues played a big role in me not being able to perform to my test average and because of this I felt like I was not going to get into the schools I was hoping for, let alone with a scholarship.

In November I finished up applying to all the law schools I was interested in (about 15), most of which my LSAT was below the 50th percentile, even the 25th for some. But regardless of my LSAT score, I was confident in my application as a whole and knew that deep down my GPA, resume, and essays had a good shot at making up for my LSAT score. I believed in the quality of my application and I was hopeful that the admissions committee would see this as well.

As of today, I have received my first FULL RIDE scholarship to a T-30 school where I was below the 25th percentile for the LSAT. Even without this full ride offer, I have been accepted into many good schools with great scholarship offers. Had I listened to reddit or others on the internet who told me to not even bother applying, I would have found myself in a very different situation.

I'm writing this all to say please do not give up or count yourself out, regardless of what others have to say. Shoot your shot and don't tell yourself no, let the school tell you no. Hopefully this is motivating for those who find themselves in a similar situation. If anyone wants to know more about my LSAT/application process please feel free to message me!

My lsac gpa (if I calculated correctly) is much higher than the 75th percentile of most top schools, but I've been PTing in the high 160s/low 170s. I'm taking the exam in October and planning on applying in November. Right now, my top schools are Columbia (ED), NYU, UChicago, Michigan, Northwestern, and Georgetown. Would my GPA (and other things like leadership, job experience) be enough to balance out my lower LSAT score?

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I just had a few questions regarding applications, the application cycle and when the best time to apply is. I am planning to take my first LSAT in August and also plan to take another one in October. The reasoning behind this is that if I don't like ny August score, I still have the opportunity to take another test and get the scores back before November. If I end up using my October score, is it too late in the application cycle to start applying on the first of November? Please let me know if my line of thinking makes sense and if I should make any changes. I am currently studying 2-3 hours daily for the past 2 months almost.

My GPA is 2.6 and my June LSAT score is a 176, 4 yrs WE. My dream school is USC. I am having trouble figuring out what to do with my ED. Is there a point to apply ED to UCI as a safer option? Would EDing USC be a waste considering my GPA? I wouldn’t mind being admitted to either school, I just want to maximize my chances.

I understand most law schools require two, but will accept up to four LORs. Assuming I have four different recommenders that can write me a solid recommendation, is there any downside to submitting the maximum allowed letters?

First some context.

My top school is the law school associated with the college I went for Undergrad.

My college is also in my hometown, and I have extremely close ties to the college (I was going to football games, baseball games, and other events they've had before I could walk).

I graduated in 2022 and now live on the other side of the country working for a nonprofit.

Should my Personal Statement be how I want to go home, which is true, study law there, and all of that. Or. Focus not on my desire to go back but rather my experiences post-grad?

Thank you all!!

Hello all,

I am a competitive powerlifter and feel this makes my application stand out a little. Would asking my coach for a letter of rec be appropriate? She

I'm starting late and planned on taking the test in October to be in the earlier pool of applicants. My GPA is 3.73 before uGPA and raw diagnostic was 148. Because my stats aren't great, I feel like applying early is my only shot. Do I even have a chance?

In my freshman year of college, during the first week, I received a citation for underage drinking and a code of conduct violation from my school for the same incident. Although I hired a lawyer, went to court, and successfully got the charge dropped and expunged from my permanent record, I am still required to disclose both the code of conduct violation and the citation to schools. Has anyone had experience with a similar situation? Im afraid top schools will view me negatively due to these actions.

Hello! I have already secured the LoRs for the upcoming application cycle. Do we need to wait until the cycle begins to enter recommender information and ask them to upload letters? Or can the recommenders upload the letters now, and the letters can be used in the upcoming cycle? Thank you!

I haven't been scoring the best on my real LSATs but my PTs have been in the upper 150s (old format). My target score is a 155 on the LSAT, and I want to apply this fall for the 2025 cycle.

I haven't been able to break into the 150s on the real LSAT yet but that's another discussion. My hope being to apply this fall and achieve a score of 155+, is taking the test in October as opposed to September more of a gamble?

I feel that more time to study could be beneficial but does that outweigh the impacts of applying slightly later in the cycle as opposed to applying at the start? Taking October also leaves less time to test again if my score isn't ideal.

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Is there anything I should do if I applied to law school at the end of December and still haven’t heard back from the law school I applied to? I was moved to “no decision” in March

Hello all!

I am wanting to apply to law school this fall and need guidance putting my application together. I have loved 7sage for LSAT prep and I am currently working my way through the application videos. I am looking for advice and opinions on application consulting services. Have any of you used 7sage and if so what was your experience like? Have you used another service and if so same question? Honestly, I want to use 7sage but it's a little pricey and so I just want to make sure it's worth it. I am meeting with a consultant later this week but just want to know if anyone has any strong opinions on it.

So, I would love to hear any and all experiences, opinions or advice. This is a lot of money for me to spend so I am wanting to make the most of it. TIA:)

Hi. I have a lower undergrad gpa (3.4) and am aiming for top 35-ish range of law schools. I know I need my lsat to be in the high 160s and I think this is doable, but i'm extremely worried about the gpa. I am 2 years out of (a semi-prestigious) school. Any suggestions?

Hi guys,

I'm applying this upcoming application cycle, and I have a question regarding LORs. Do I need to wait until the applications officially open, to submit my recommender information via the LSAC website? Or can I submit sooner than that? To specify, I mean when you fill out the recommender information and submit it via LSAC using the CAS system. I'm assuming a link gets sent to them where they can submit their letters? I just don't want to send the link too soon and it not work. Is it safer to just submit the recommender information once applications are officially open? I hope this made sense!

When I was a teenager, my parents said they would only financially assist me if I attended one of the 3 bible colleges owned by our religion. Well, I got rejected from 2/3. The one I went to has a 95% acceptance rate. I think it's rather implied that if a college has a 95% acceptance rate, their curriculum is probably not that rigorous or challenging. I graduated with a 3.96 GPA, magna cum laude, full scholarship, and regret attending there everyday for numerous reasons and also because I am no longer a part of that religion.

Will T14 or T20 law schools care about where I went? I know everyone says GPA and LSAT are the two most important pieces of your application, and although I have a high GPA, I'm trying to get a really high LSAT score to compensate for the fact that I attended a college with a 95% acceptance rate, but is this something I should worry about? I really am quite insecure about it.

Edit: It is an accredited college by the Northwest Commission on Colleges and Universities.

Hi guys,

I know that it's not good to start in the Spring semester compared to the Fall semester but let's just say that I start in the Spring semester then plan on transferring after 1L to a better law school.

Is it actually possible to transfer after 1L with spring semester start? or do you know any schools that do accept?

I know that you can for the Fall semester start and I know that it's going to be difficult and people will say I shouldn't attend if I plan on transferring to a new school.

But besides all that, is it possible?

Any experience or opinions?

Thank you.

Hello! I am getting ready to write my second letter of continued interest for a school I am on the waitlist for.

I have 2 questions:

(I am aware that these are very specific questions, but I want to make sure I do this right and maximize my chances) Any help or insight is greatly appreciated!

Alright, first things first, I've never made a forum post before, so I apologize if this one is bad, but I needed to get some insight from people.

As the title says, I'm a bit of a splitter. I have a CAS GPA of 3.43. I haven't taken the LSAT yet, but I took my diagnostic about a month ago and scored a 157, and I'm averaging around a 164 now. I'm aiming for around a 168, but I believe it's realistic that I could score a little higher.

The issue is that I transferred to a different school after freshman year, and it hadn't occurred to me that law schools would look at my grades from that school. Not counting my freshman year I have a 3.65, and every year after freshman year I have consistently increased my GPA. I genuinely believe that I had extenuating circumstances that affected my GPA freshman year, and I'm planning on submitting an addendum, but I'm wondering how much of a difference it'll make.

If one ignores my freshman year grades, then I have a competitive GPA and a presumably competitive LSAT for some higher ranked schools (t50 I'm guessing), but obviously these grades will not just be ignored. I guess what I'm asking is whether or not I could still consider myself to be a competitive candidate for these schools despite my low GPA, or if I should just significantly decrease my expectations.

For context, I have one or two good softs, but generally not great. I have held multiple leadership positions in clubs and my fraternity, was a varsity athlete for two years, briefly competed in powerlifting, and worked with a local music artist who had an album reach the iTunes top 200 chart. I'm also working on an Economic Honors Project, where I'm creating an index to calculate a country's level of geopolitical risk, doing a research fellowship on sustainable energy policy, and am a writing tutor at my school.

My mom suggested that I stay in college for an additional term after I receive my degree to boost my GPA, but this would have pretty marginal benefits, and be pretty expensive, so I think this isn't a great idea.

Sorry I probably rambled for a bit. Thanks for any advice.

I can't believe I'm in this position! Does anyone have any insight on how likely it is to be accepted from the WL after an interview? Do they interview a lot of people on WL to give themselves options? Or do they interview people they are likely to accept. Any advice is appreciated!