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Hello,

I was wondering if anyone had any tips to not get overly nervous on test day.

I took the August test, and despite taking tons of practice test and drills, I blacked out when the test started. On the practice tests, I was consistently scoring in the high 160's-low 170's and even reached a 173 on the practice test the day before I took the real one. However, my official score was much much lower than that. I know that I am capable of getting my dream score, but I cannot help but feel overly nervous when the test comes around... I tried the usual "take a deep breath" but that obviously did not help.

Anyone got any tips before the October test?

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I took the LSAT in September for the first time and am beyond disappointed in my score. I find reading the forums about wild score increases to be motivating, but then I realize so many people have been studying for a year or more. Frankly, I do not have the money or time to do that. I managed to study from March-June very sporadically since spring semester was in full spring and I work full time. I was able to study regularly from June-August but that was still difficult with my work schedule and classes starting again. I am now amping my studying back up to prepare for the November LSAT, but I feel incredibly doubtful that more score will increase significantly if at all. I am meeting with my mentor to create a new study plan but would like input on here, as well. If I don't do well in November, what should my next step be? I wanted to apply to schools by October 30th but now my timeline is muddled and I'm not sure what to do. Thanks in advance; I appreciate any constructive feedback.

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I love seeing the thank you 7sage posts so I thought i'd stop by and also extends my gratitude to 7sage and this community.

I believe its also important to movitate each other and to show that hard work can pay off. It's taken me about 9 months to reach this point and hope to motivate others to believe in themselves and work hard to achieve your goal.

I definitely wouldn't have made it this far without 7sage and without the support of the community so thank you!

Taking one more shot at it in November, let's goooo!!

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Saw another thank you 7sage and thought to write my own! I took my first diagnostic and was heartbroken considering my goals included top schools and I was concerned about taking on debt. I used this program for around 7 months before my test and getting my score back was one of the happiest moments I have felt in recent years. To think nothing is off limits because of this website still makes me tear up. So overall, I just want to thank the developers and the teachers for making such a great impact on so many peoples lives!

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Hi all,

I know this is a common phenomenon, that many score lower than their PT average on test day. I was wondering if anyone could provide advice my specific situation since I'm a bit demotivated.

I'm someone who didn't really need to study for RC or LR due to my background as a philosophy student, and usually manage -0 to -3 on those. I do struggle on LG, often having to guess the last few questions. Another thing is that I have only taken 3-section preptests. Last time I stopped PTing (171) one week before the real test (166).

I haven't studied since taking September, but I'm registered for October, my last chance. How should I proceed in the last 17 days until Oct? Just drill logic games, or try the 4-section tests on LSAC? How would you all approach this? I feel like I need to switch something up to avoid this happening again.

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After a slightly disappointing result in August, I was able to meet my goal score in September. I'm thrilled to be able to move on and begin submitting applications. For those considering a retake after scoring below PT average: it's awful to have to recommit to studying, but it can be worth the time and money to bet on yourself with a retake. There's absolutely a decent amount of variability in scores just given on whether the test on a given day plays to your strengths. Getting the first-time test-taking nerves out of the way can also help you stay more focused and not make mistakes you wouldn't normally make.

And, for those considering tutoring: Chris Bearne is fantastic! I worked with him primarily on Logic Games and reading, and I think he was one of the main reasons I was able to meet my goal score. When I started working with him, I was comfortable with the basics of the games, but my timing/consistency was not where I wanted it to be: I was maybe -2 to -4 on most sections. Chris helped me get to a place where I was confident in getting near -0, even on sections that took me by surprise. He was also incredibly kind and professional, and clearly puts in work even outside of sessions to be prepared to help his students- finding games or passages that are appropriate for your individual needs, and reviewing screen video of real practice test takes. I would definitely recommend him to anyone, especially someone looking to break a plateau in Logic Games.

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Hello everyone,

I’d like to start by giving some context. I am 23 years old and graduated from college last year in December. I graduated with a degree in political science with a 3.5 GPA and worked for a law firm and my senator during my undergrad. I am also an officer candidate for the USMC. However, here lies the problem: I have had some issues with the recruiting process, and it is becoming very inconvenient.

I was scheduled to leave this year in May and then September. Although, both times I was kept from leaving because my recruiter made some strategic mistakes regarding a medical matter. So, we are waiting to hear back from an agency that approves and disapproves of candidates. We are expecting their response to either be that I am either approved to leave in January or that they will make more requests for medical exams, which may postpone my leaving to the summer of next year. This has become burdensome in both my own time benchmarks and intermediate employment.

My plan with the USMC was to (1) get professional work experience, (2) fulfill my itch for military service, (3) become financially independent, and (4) use the GI Bill to pay for law school. Though, my perspectives are changing as I become older. I have always wanted to join the armed forces/USMC since I was a child, but I want to practice law long-term. So, as time goes on, I am growing weary about pressing into the USMC.

That being said, here’s where I am regarding the LSAT/admissions. I have only started studying within the last month and have not taken a diagnostic. I seem to be picking up the material fine though. I was considering taking the LSAT in January and sending out my applications immediately upon receiving my score. Though from what research I have done, it would seem best to apply next September.

So, I guess to finish with a few questions

For anyone who has served as a commissioned officer, was it worth serving

before going to law school?

a. Can anyone in the reserves vouch for their experience?

Should I be patient and join to use the GI Bill to pay for law school?

a. Or, should I take my chance at scholarships and try to mitigate for any other costs?

Is beginning to practice law at about 30 a little late in the game, or is this a myth

if you have valuable work experience?

If I do proceed with applying for schools, am I right in considering waiting for the next cycle?

I would love to hear your comments or antidotal experiences and any objectivity.

For anyone replying to these questions, do not feel compelled to answer all of them or in any specific order.

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Hey everyone. I’m taking the upcoming October LSAT probably on Friday the 14th. When would ya’ll recommend taking my final PT? Should I avoid taking any PTs the week of my LSAT or should I fit one PT in on that week? Thanks!

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Hi everyone,

I just started studying for the LSAT this week and plan to apply for Fall 2023 admission. The schools I'm applying to have an app deadline of March 1 or later so the Feb LSAT test will be valid. However, I am wondering when I should take the LSAT - Jan and Feb or Jan or Feb. If the latter, which month would be best? If I take it in Feb, I will have 1 more month to study but that's my only chance. If my Feb score isn't great, I will have to wait to apply for the following school year. If I take it in Jan, I can take the LSAT in Febif my score is not what I want (but I do not want to drain my brain out too and get a bad score). My undergrad GPA is low (graduated in 2016) so it's vital to have a high LSAT score. Any inputs on my dilemma?

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here in the home stretch to Oct and wondering at what point the advantage of seeing "new" material bumps up against the ability to review old material and the necessity to have a little bit of a breather the day before.

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Hi everyone!

Can anyone recommend lsat podcast that I could listen to when working out? I just signed up 2 days ago to start studying so I’m seeking something related to beginner stage foundation building or question types or lectures. I’m more attentive when I’m listening while working out (don’t know how)

So far I only found introductory test taking or college admissions related podcast.

As for my 7Sage material I’m using that more for sit down heads down study sessions

Thank you!

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Hi, I'm newly graduated from undergrad and I'm really unsure of how to start studying for the LSAT. I had wanted to start at the beginning of this month, but I haven't started doing anything because getting a tutor or live classes is so expensive, but I would like the accountability that studying on my own wouldn't give me. I'd like others perspectives to know what works best? Self study or having a tutor/class? I would really appreciate some advice :/

Thank you!

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So I recently started taking on the PTs in the 80s to practice the more recent content in preparation for October. I started with PT83 earlier this week and took PT84 today. Here are the breakdowns:

PT83: 152 (BR: 161)

RC: -8

LG: -8

LR: -15

PT84: 159 (BR: 161)

RC: -7

LG: -8

LR: -6

So the huge score jump is clearly justified completely by me getting destroyed on LR on PT83 while doing much better on PT84 LR. However, this inconsistency worries me. Does anyone know if PT83 LR was just ridiculously hard or was PT84 LR much easier??

In addition, with 3 weeks until my October LSAT, is there any hope left for me improving LG? I’ve scored exactly and I mean exactly -8 on my last 3 PTs. Mostly because I RUSH like crazy just to be able to get to the 4th game. Is there any hope for me on LG with 3 short weeks left? Thank you for your time!

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Hello everyone. With the October LSAT getting closer and closer I was looking for help with what I should do at this point. I seem to average -8 on RC and between -3 and -6 on LG. LR is a complete tossup between like a -7 or as bad as a -15. It’s my worst section. I must clearly lack some fundamentals of LR to be doing so poorly and with how little time is left until the October LSAT my question becomes: At this point, should I even bother in reviewing LR fundamentals/drilling LR weaknesses? Or should I just solely focus on LG in hopes of perfecting to -1 or -0 for a last minute score boost? I’m honestly torn because -1 or -0 on LG is not a guarantee for me but after months of studying my LR has simply not improved either.

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Hi -- I often study logic games by doing a timed section from a prep test using the drill feature. The drill feature seems to scramble the order of the games, but I'd really like to intentionally order them how they would appear on the test. It throws me off when the hardest game is the second game and the easiest is last. Is there a way to do this?

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Hi everyone, I need some advice.

I am currently registered to take the October and November LSAT. My issue is that with the October LSAT being a few weeks away, I feel like I am nowhere near where I wanna be in PT's. The October would be my first time taking it. My thought process was to just take the October test to practice run a real exam and have November as my more relaxed test. However, I now feel like I am not prepared for October at all and am debating just taking the November exam. I'm worried that I will freeze up during the November one and not be able to take the test again until January (I wanted to have all my apps in by end of November). Any advice on what I should do? Feeling discouraged :(

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I'm stuck with 150s in timed exams and the early 160s in BR for some months now.

My study method has been this:

Take timed test. Blind review. Review wrong questions. Note reason of getting wrong. Make a list of it.

The very first timed test was in the 140s so it was great to have some increase at first but, I mean, being stuck for a few months is a bit too long.

I would really love some advice from those who experienced a significant score increase.

Any specific tips?

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At the beginning of my studying I was testing using PTs from mostly the 50s and 60s. As I'm nearing the October test date and taking more recent exams, my score had been going down - from around 172 consistently to around 168 off-and-on in PTs from the mid-80s. Anybody have any advice on why this might be or how to fix this? It doesn't seem to be any one section that is falling in particular

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"Unless Shiming's car is fixed, which cannot happen without Steve's help, there will be no road trip next week."

From the lesson, https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/quiz-complex-conditional-translations-4-w-answers/

I'm very confused in here because of the prior rules of mixing group 3 and group 4 conditional indicators. And in this sentence there's a bunch of them.

I understand the "final" necessary condition being /road trip next week. So the first conditional statement written in logic would be /car fixed > /road trip. This part I understand as we are using group 3 logic, negate sufficient. Simple enough.

Now to add the second part, "Unless Shiming's car is fixed, which cannot happen without Steve's help....."

In this sentence we have two group 3 indicators and one group 4 indicator. What do we do in this situation? In a previous lesson when we run into this situation, we pick one side, follow that group's negation rules, then treat the other "logical indicator" as a negation.

So for example, I want to follow group 3's rule on the indicator "unless". Which is choose a side, make it the sufficient condition, and negate. Okay. Let's pick car fixed.

So this puts me at /car fixed > which cannot happen without Steve's help.....

Now on the necessary side we have a group 3 and a group 4 logical indicator in there :DDDD.

What do we do here? If I treat both as a negation which cancels each other out, that turns into /car fixed > Steve's help. Which makes absolutely no sense at all. And even the other way around, /car fixed > /steve's help, which makes so much more sense, it doesn't fit in the final answer. This is because the contrapositive of /car fixed > /steve's help is steve's help > car fixed.

The final answer being /steve's help > /car fixed > /road trip. The contrapositive being road trip > car fixed > steve's help.

Help me please~~~

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