Hi everyone.

I might be a little late to the party with this question but does anyone have a list of conclusion types?

Perhaps even with an example Q to go along with it for reference (if not I am still appreciative).

I came across a NA Q (PT 70.1.13, for those who are interested) and I struggled with this Q until I saw a comment that cleared it all up for me. I don't want to put this person on the spot by publicizing their 7sage username but to quote their comment, " [the] key to answering this conclusion requires identifying what type of conclusion is made. in this question, the conclusion is a comparative statement about the effectiveness of an ad". As soon as I noticed that the conclusion was in fact a comparative statement, I knew what I had to do and the AC I eliminated time and time again became the obvious answer.

That is when I had my 'aha' moment! So then I said to myself we can have a causal conclusion, comparative, one based on a likelihood/probability, cause and effect, etc. "What conclusion types are there and what do I do when I have spotted it" became my train of thought.

Being that the LSAT is a marathon and not a sprint, and with that being said, I am ready to close my LR gap a bit further now. I suspect that being able to identify the type of conclusion made in an argument helps close that LR gap.

Is this something that I missed in the CC?

High LR scorers: do you implement this in your analysis of an argument?

Very interested to hear your comments because I think this is key to what is holding me back in LR.

(I also struggle with RC and I think taking this ultra-sensitive approach might help me as well.)

Thanks 7Sagers!

Does anyone have any recommendations for how to approach strengthen/ weaken questions - especially weaken questions? I’m actually horrible at them and they’re killing my LR score.

Hello 7Sage!

I finished up my studies for the LSAT recently and I would love to offer my knowledge to those who are looking for support or another person with whom they can talk through questions or issues. I did not get a stellar score on the October LSAT (only a 162), but I regularly BR in the mid-170s. I know the material pretty well, but I just so happened to have issues translating that knowledge to the real thing under timed conditions (despite my PTs at 166 and 170).

I am more than happy to help with LR and LG. I am also available to talk through reading strategies for RC. I have a pretty simple, intuitive approach to the test, and I would love to help others looking to break the 150 or 160 barrier.

I know there are many other free tutors after the October test, but let me know if you are interested. I am happy to meet over Google Meets to go over some questions with you or talk through strategies on how to think about and answer questions.

Cheers!

Sean

EDIT: I’ve been so happy to help others this past week that I’m reopening this post. I am available for others to meet, if interested.

Are there any major differences between the layout in the actual test and the style represented by the 7sage format? As in, the way the reading comp is shown, the location of the answer choices etc..

How did you guys work on getting better at RC? Any advice would be appreciated. Taking the November LSAT and even a 2-3 point increase in this section would bump me up from mid 160's to high 160's.

Thank you in advance.

Score Breakdown:

LG - minus 0 to minus 4

LR - minus 4 to minus 5

RC - minus 3 to minus 7

LG mostly I think I mess up because I go too fast or because of rule substitution questions towards the end. I am working on foolproofing, but yet to consistently hit -0. LR I am working on my weaknesses and mistakes and same with RC. RC is a hit or miss depending on passage difficulty. Is there any advice to break into 170s at least before my November test date?

Hi. I need help with something. I know how embedded conditionals work. For example

A---> (B---->C) then it becomes A and B ----->C

But what happens if its (A--->B) unless C

Negating sufficient, does it become (B/----->A/)----->C. Or conversely, C/------>(A----->B)

And then does it become C/ and A---->B. Its a question from PT 74 S2 Q24. Its really tripping me up

I was diagnosed with asymmetric bilateral sensorineural hearing loss and both sides tinnitus. I can't concentrate because of the tinnitus. I hear I can apply for an Accommodation for extended time. if you have any experience or advise please share if my condition will qualify for an accommodation. Thank you all!

Hi! My name is Jamie and I am a private LSAT tutor. I received an 177 on the LSAT and had a consistent -0 in both LG/LR and usually a -2 in RC (from a 10+). I specialize in LR tutoring and have multiple references I can provide. If you are interested and want to know more about prices, message. me!

Hi all, this will be my first and last post on 7Sage regarding the LSAT. I am not one for posting blogs, or tweeting, or sharing things like this. But I feel that it may be useful to a person or two, and that is good enough for me. I started originally doing questions a number of months back to see whether I should pursue a career in law, or continue onto the business track with my degrees in Finance and Economics (UGPA: 3.1, nothing special). The questions went well, and I had a decent understanding of what to do in each section (RC, LR, LG), but I wasn't doing these under timed circumstances, so obviously it wasn't extremely difficult, albeit, the tough questions are still very tough, typically. I studied for 3 months on weekdays about an hour a day (likely much less but I am rounding up), and then really crammed on PTs the last couple of weeks leading up to the test. My PTs were mid 150s which then turned to upper 140s in immediate days prior. I was internally panicking a little bit, and even after testing, I didn't feel great about it at all. My score came back a 154 and will be enough to get me into the local law schools that I have had my eye on. Anyways, the point of this is to illustrate to anyone on here that this site is extremely beneficial in any area that you may be struggling on with the test (I was very solid in LG, but always struggled with LR and RC) and can certainly bump your score up plenty. I put in much less time than most seem to put in, and it still was enough for a 4 point bounce between the 2 LSATs that I took in a 3 month span. I'm not posting this to advocate for little study time or minimal effort, but more so to let those out there that may be struggling know that you have a chance, no matter what, and to stay confident! It may be something that clicks that day, it might be an easier test suited for you, or maybe the pressure wears off once that test is actually out in front of you. Whatever the case may be, stay confident! You never know how things will turn out.

Hey guys-I need some advice after just receiving the lowest score on a PT that I have ever gotten (pre-BR). I just took PT 39 flex and the difference from my pre and post BR score is 11 points and I was not expecting that. I am registered for the November LSAT but after this review, I am feeling so discouraged and beaten down. I have put in SO much work and I know I am capable of reaching my ideal score in BR but after seeing how big of a difference there was between my two scores on this test- I don't know what to do. I would really appreciate any advice/guidance at all (seriously, any).

I would appreciate advice on how to bridge the gap between my pre and post BR scores. It seems like my worst section is RC and I know that is the toughest to improve on in a short amount of time so I have been putting more of my focus on LG/LR and I have been seeing improvements, so I think I did the right thing?? Give me your thoughts.

Also, do I postpone my test until January? I was planning on applying in December but getting a good score is of the utmost importance for me mostly because my GPA is right at median for my target school.

I greatly appreciate any help!!!! I would also be willing to give more details in private messages if needed.

Been waiting months to write this post.. The journey to this score was longer, more difficult and more much painful than I imagined when I picked up some Kaplan Prep book in mid-2019.

It's taken a couple of days to be able to physically process but I finally scored 171 on an official take!

Took a ~diagnostic (had been studying a little before) and scored a 166.. this was what I would later melodramatically refer to as the 'kiss of death' - it was a total fluke and in no way was this representative of my skills at that point in time...subsequent PTs would prove that I was actually closer to high the 150s to low 160s. In the next month I took around 10 PTs (with no BR and no drilling) and never once was able to hit at or above 166.

Months later, 'I saw the light' and signed up for 7Sage. After completing the CC and doing about a month of drilling LR/RC full sections from the early PTs and full proofing every LG from 1-35, my first PT was a 169. This was my first major victory, which inevitably was followed by what felt like a setback, a 159.

First official take was May and I got a... 166. At the time, my PTs were all over the place (169, 159, 171, 163, 165...) and 166 was actually my prep test average. At the time May was the only flex scheduled and it felt like this Covid thing would be over by now and we'd be back to full length tests so I never put too much stock into this one. I had taken a PT during the interregnum (after I wrote it but before I got my results) and had gotten a 172 (highest yet) which fueled me to push further still.

Going into August my PT average was just above 170. But something happened on LR of that section.. its been commented that the first questions in that LR section were unusually hard and that just got to me; i'm sure that it tanked that LR section and also probably the first part of my next section which was RC.. if it was a 5 section test then I'm confident than another LR would have been able to balance me out to a 168 but alas another 166. What was crushing was looking at an official take that was the same as my diagnostic; even though I knew by this time my diagnostic was inflated - I was frustrated and embarrassed that I "hadn't" made any progress (even though I know I had)...

Anyways, something happened after August and I just started to care so much less. By this point I had not had a PT below 168 since April... I felt assured that I would be able to get above a 166. But then, about a week before October I had two back-to-back PTs where I got a 167... these PT scores felt crushing, it felt like I was slipping at the very second I needed to be at my peak. In some ways this weirdly made me care less... 'caring less' weirdly ended up being the key to doing well on that exam.. anyways felt like I did okay on LR, RC and LG but my couple of low scores before the exam made me second guess... I was hoping for anything above a 168 and was registered for November as well hoping that I could at least increase my score and then to push forward and get out of my slump by the November exam.. but alas it wasn't necessary I got a 171!!!

And yet, I still feel like this post has not adequately captured the ups and downs that have comprised this journey. It wouldn't have been possible without 7Sage and J.Y.! Thank you to everyone who interacted me me on the forums (particularly on my posts where I was asking for help or, oftentimes, just complaining and looking for solace).

What’s everyone think my chances are at Schools like Georgetown, Cornell, Boston college, Notre dame, USC? I still have time to bring my gpa even higher as I’m in my 5th semester right now.

Can't believe it finally paid off. I feel like this year just consisted of me crying in my room studying LOL. It was a tough process, but I'm just so happy it's over.

This test sucks ass. It just really does, I have to say it. It literally drained all my mental energy for a year. Trust me, it wasn't like I was good at this test from the start. It took countless hours of staring at a question to figure out what the hell is going on. But hard work does pay off - please, please never give up.

I want to be of help to anyone who is going through this process. Please ask me anything, I may be able to help.

LSAC just released the May 2020 Preptest on LawHub. Does anyone know when 7Sage will upload their explanations or how quick the turnaround usually is?

Hello. I scored a 163 on the October Flex. My GPA is fairly unimpressive so this score is too low for the schools I want to apply to. My goal score is 165+ and I likely won't send an application until I achieve that score. With that being said, is it in my interest to keep the 163 or delete the score from my LSAC account? Are there any advantages/disadvantages to keeping it? Please advice!

So I’m currently a Junior in undergrad, just took October and got a 167 which I’m happy with. I would like to get into Georgetown, so I believe I’m at there median (some sites say 167, some say 168) and my gpa is solid through almost 2 and a half years (3.87). Whats everyone think about Georgetown if I can keep my Gpa up? Also, since I’m only a junior, I won’t apply for another year and a half right? I didn’t know if I could send them stuff early or not, honestly don’t know much about the application process so any help would be great!! Thanks guys!

Ive been wondering, do you see proctors face while you take the exam? because that would be really distracting ._.

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Got a 167 on October!! If anyone needs help on LG let me know! I’ve been helping students in LG for about 2 months now!!

I’ll be taking 4 PTs between now and then - probably all from PT 80s.

Any recommendations to which PTs I absolutely should take (ie difficult ones, trick games, etc)? Non PT 80s also fine.

Want to be ready for any tough scenarios come November!

Hey guys, I just took my October test and did well, if I cancel my 7sage subscription, do I still have access to the discussion board and be able to message people?

I am confused about foolproofing. When we are printing off 10 copies of the games we have not perfected, should we be trying to set up the board and answer the questions timed or untimed until perfection? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

Hey guys!

This might be a dumb question, but the transcript request stuff on the LSAC website really confuses me. Do I need to actually call my university and ask them to send my transcripts to LSAC? I currently have my school listed and it says that I have a transcript that has not been processed, but it has been close to three weeks... If anyone knows anything please let me know! #help

Does anyone know when 7Sage will have the new May 2020 Preptest with explanations? Any possibility it could be up before the November exam?