I started studying for the LSAT at the beginning of quarantine because corona switched up my plans and I decided to go to law school this fall. I started off with a diagnostic of 146 and felt very discouraged. However, after consistent studying I was able to score a 158 on the June Flex and have a good chance at getting into my dream school. Thank you so much 7Sage!! But I do not recommend only two months of consistent studying it was really stressful haha

I know this is a great score, but my average for PTs was 176 so I was hoping for one a bit higher on test day. I know I messed up the LG on the June test which is usually a perfect section for me.

I want to retake, the only thing holding me back is the idea that some of the top schools like Harvard will be irritated if you retake a score that's already at their median. I've been studying so hard for this to make up for a lack of prestige for my undergraduate college and decent, but not amazing, softs.

My gut tells me I want to retake it because I think I can do better. I've also heard that getting a higher score could get you more scholarship money to lower T14s.

What do you all think? Should I retake it?

Hello All,

I have received my score, 149. This was my third time taking it. The first and second time I have no previous studying. For the third take I took the course and took about 6/7 months to study. I was scoring 164/165 on the newest PT's. However, on test day everything crashed and burned and received a score 20 points below my PT average. I freaked out on LG, which ironically was my strong suit and bombed that section. I was wondering if it would be wise to re take the LSAT in August and figure out what went wrong (I had test anxiety) and try to bring up my score on actual test day. If so, this would be my fourth time taking it. I am wanting to apply to Fall 21 or maybe Spring 21 depending where I would be able to go. Going to law school is my dream but I am not a good test taker. 7Sage is such a big and understanding community and I really would appreciate it, if y'all could give me some insight.

Thank you

I set up my time zone in GMT+8, but the time slots were still shown in CST. Did anyone experience the same problem? For sure I can calculate the time difference by myself, but the email that the LSAC sent me says the test date available to me is 4am-5pm on 7/17 (ET). But I was able to pick 8:30pm CST on the website. I think something must have gone wrong. It makes me anxious. And it seems that the website is not functioning anymore and there is no response from Proctor U support. Did anyone encounter the same problem?

#help

I answered this question correctly but approached the stimulus differently than J.Y. I interpreted the part that says “who receive unsolicited advice from someone whose advantage would be served if that advice is taken” to be a description of the kind of “people” the stimulus is referring to. Therefore, I teased out the logic in this way:

People (who receive unsolicited advice from someone whose advantage would be served if that advice is taken)

Interest NOT coincide → Regard advice with Skepticism

so

NOT IC → SK

Therefore, I approached the answer choices in this way:

A – Even if the interest of H and F do not coincide, the stimulus does not suggest a rejection;

B – Perfectly resembled my interpretation since S and R “NOT IC” then R should not reject the least expensive models. So, he must be skeptical about S’s advice;

C – In this case M and Y interest coincided so it did not trigger my conditional;

D – In this case S and R interest coincided so it did not trigger my conditional;

E – Even if we can infer that M and J interest did not coincide because M wanted to purchase a more expensive fish while J wanted to sell her a cheaper one, in no way we can conclude that M should follow J’s recommendation, so “NOT SK”.

What do you think?

Thank you in advance to whoever is going to answer.

Best,

Marco

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Do people use memory method time structure during actual PT or problem set drills or is it only strictly for practice? I feel like I'm getting tripped up over how to use it lol so I wanna know how other people make best use of it because I definitely like it and want to implement it into my study habits.

So I was setting up the rules for Game/Preptest 44, sec 3 game 3.

Game stem: A tour group plans to visit exactly five archaeological sites. Each site was discovered by exactly one of the following archaeologist - F,G,O and each dates from The 8th,9th, Or 10th century. The tour must satisfy the following conditions:

There was this rule that stated: Exactly one of the sites was discovered by Gallagher, and it dates from the tenth century.

2)How do I know G and 10 are not a Block, I’m sure many people create it as a false block. What modifier in the statement let’s me know it’s conditional ?!?

3)when it does state “exactly”- is it implying that G is in the game ONLY once Since the game stem isn’t requiring all variables to be present, but that ALL sites be occupied by once the archeologist and when G is Summoned it’s carrying the century Variable with it ?

Hi everyone, I really want to improve my LR score, so I am currently working through the Loophole book. I'm trying to learn how to do CLIR-ing properly, but I'm not sure if the loopholes I am finding for argument stimulus-types are correct. Does anyone have any tips for dealing with this/or any insight on how this strategy helped them improve in LR? Thank you so much in advance!!

Can’t believe it really happened, I had given up on the LSAT twice in the last 5 years and my last real score was a 167. Absolutely could not have pulled this off without those LG videos. Thanks J.Y.!

HI everyone! First post on here. I found out this morning that I scored significantly lower on my June LSAT-Flex than my PT average. Just signed up for 7Sage Ultimate+ to keep practicing, but I am feeling SO discouraged. What I thought would be my safety schools are now barely target schools. I am scheduled to retake in August - I know this is a quick turn around, but I want the option to apply early. Does anyone have advice for improving my score and/or getting my confidence back up?

Couldn't believe my eyes today --- I scored multiple points above my recent practice test average!! I am so grateful for JY and the 7sage discussion/advice forums. Without this company, I don't think I would've stayed hopeful and dedicated through every studying plateau. Thank you a million.

Just took my first LSAT in June and received a 170. I had been consistently scoring 172s on practice tests and sometimes hitting 174. Timing was never an issue for me and I usually scored -0 on LG. Any advice for retaking it in August? Do you recommend redoing the curriculum or just sticking to taking practice tests?

can't believe it, i felt like the flex went horribly and i considered cancelling every day.

thank you 7sage (3 good luck to everyone in july/aug, you guys are going to kill it!!(/p)

Scored in the 98th percentile on June Flex thanks to JY and 7sage!

Thank you 7Sage community! Could not have done this without everyone. I am so incredibly excited and relieved right now.

Everyone out there getting ready for July and August, keep at it, you got this!

Hello, I have been struggling with necessary assumptions for a surprisingly unnecessary amount of time and still I cannot totally understand the concept as I have received seemingly conflicting methods to solve this question stem. Let me start with a simple question: if You negate a statement, and that statement makes the conclusion MUST BE FALSE, then that statement before its negated is the necessary assumption? If a statement is negated and the conclusion is COULD BE FALSE, then the statement before it was negated has no bearing on the argument and is not a necessary assumption? I really need help strengthening my firm understanding of this concept because it has been hit or miss for me. I sometimes would get most of them right in a PT and get most of them wrong in another PT, 50-50 right in another PT. Please help

I wanted to share a resource which has helped me and a few others gain a better understanding of logical reasoning. The Wireless Philosophy Youtube channel has a 35 video playlist on what they call Critical Thinking. These videos address what arguments are, fundamental principles of reasoning, and common fallacies. I especially like the fallacy videos because they are a bit outside of the normal "cookie cutter" flaws that we think of but nonetheless are heavily used on LR questions. Many of these fallacies slap a label or term on reasoning patterns that we all know "feel" wrong but can't always articulate.

I did not watch these videos in order. I watched a couple a day to supplement and break up my studies. I think there is much value in thinking about arguments and the LSAT from many perspectives. Hopefully these videos help something click for someone out there!

Here is the Link: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtKNX4SfKpzX_bhh4LOEWEGy3pkLmFDmk

What’s everyone think the chances are that October becomes flex?

Hi,

Can you please explain why answer choice D is considered incorrect? I know the correct answer is B, but would like further explanation!

Thank you!

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Same with this one question like before...

A park contains at most five of seven kinds of trees- firs, laurels, maples, oaks ,pines, spruces, and yews - consistent with the following conditions.

If maples are in the park,yews are not

if firs are in the park,pines are not

if yews are not in the park, then either laurels or oaks but not both, are in the park if it is not the case that the park contains both laurels and oaks, then it contains fir and spruces.

If the firs are not in the park, then which one of the following must be true.

A) Maples are not in the park

B ) Spruces are not in the park

C) Yews are not in the park

D) Pines are in the park

E) Spruces are in the park

i understand why A would be the right answer, however, can't D be true because if firs are not in the park then pines must be in the park as well..? The contapostive. why isnt the answer D

Hi,

Asking because there are 2 preptest questions that really confuse me regarding this phrase.

In PT80.S2.Q18, the correct answer is B, and the reason why people say that the answer here is not A is because passage A does not have "particular examples". Passage A discusses hypothetical examples (ie line 11-- "if you analyze a stock, decide it is overvalued..." and line 24--"someone selling a stock because..."). People say that these are not particular examples because they don't refer to a single real-life instance.

However, in PT25.S1.Q3, the correct answer is A, even though one of the two "specific examples" used in the passage is a hypothetical on line 15-- "does a government office, for example, have the right..." (the other "specific example" seems pretty specific-- line 32-- "recently, two employees of an automobile company...")

Unless "specific example" means something different from "particular example", I am really not sure how to resolve the paradox between these 2 questions' answer explanations.

Can anyone please explain this?

Thanks!

Best regards

Is the correct negation for (B), “The leopard magpie moth does have the speed or agility to escape from SOME of its predators”? And if so, does this hinge on the fact that it contains the word “any”, which is treated like “all”, and therefore negated as “some is not”, and the added “not” creates a double negative which turns “does not” into “does”? If this is the case, I would like to know if this is a hard-and-fast rule we can apply every time we see the words “any”, “all”, “every”, “some”, or “most” anywhere in the answer choice of a necessary assumption question. I usually don’t have trouble negating these words when they are at the beginning of the sentence, as in “all swans are white”, but I had never negated an answer choice in this way when the quantifier was in the middle of the sentence. Consequently, like others, I thought the negation for this was “the leopard magpie moth does have the speed or agility to escape from ANY of its predators, which in my eyes, does undermine the argument. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

During my drills, I was really confused by the following sentence that I made up myself.

(I knew it might not make sense in scientific terms, please bear with me.)

"All genetic material is contributed by every female gamete."

Thanks!

Hi!

I was doing moderately well with the cc until I hit Sufficient Assumption questions. I cannot for the life of me figure them out. I know they are supposed to be freebies but I stare at them without having any idea where even to start mapping out the stimulus. Does anyone have any tips or tricks to really being able to conquer these questions?

Thank you!

Hello Community,

I'm drilling SA questions (because I suck at them) and I came across this "gem" that really shook what little confidence I DO have on these question types.

I picked out the conclusion and premise with no trouble but then when I went into the answer choices, I was thoroughly confused. I scratched off B early on as it's restating a premise and conclusion we already have, but this turns out to be the right answer. I thought this was a trap and was sure it couldn't be right, but nothing else looked good either. Can anyone give me some insight as to what the heck I'm missing? Is it just because of the matching conditional structure? Any help and explanations (super dumbed-down for this old lady) would be greatly appreciated!

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