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Happy (or horrifying) score release day! I've got a message for all of you, especially those of you facing a disappointing result.

Watch the video for more, but here are some core points.

1) You are not your score. Your appeal as an applicant, your promise as a lawyer, and your broader identity as a person are multi-faceted and do not reduce to a single result from a single try.

2) The purpose of practice, including early official takes, is to learn novel, interesting lessons. Regardless of your result, if you thoughtfully pull novel and interesting lessons from this administration, you're set up to be a stronger testtaker than you were before the August test.

3) Heed my advice later in the video about how specifically to address gaps in your blind review, practice test, and official scores.

4) We've got resources for you today. Most notably, we're stacking office hours throughout the day so you can get the emotional and practical support you need. You can find those chat rooms in the left-hand sidebar of this page.

5) See also this special episode of the 7sage podcast where Bailey, Alex, Kevin, and Ethan discuss what you should do today.

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8 hours ago

😖 Frustrated

Tips on RC Speed/Time

Hi. When practicing untimed RC sections I am right where I need to be in terms of my score, and normally am only over by a minute or two for time. When I do a section timed however, I miss double, and find myself using half my allotted time for the first two passages. I turn the timer off to try to help stress, but doesn't seem to work. Any other tips? Thanks!

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13 hours ago

😵‍💫

Sept LSAT -- easier?

Am I the only delusional one that's secretly hoping the Sept LSAT is on the easier side after hearing how the August LSAT crushed a lot of people?

One way or another - to all my fellow Sept test takers -- WE GOT THIS!!!

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Hey folks!

I am taking my first LSAT in six days. I was wondering if anyone had helpful advice to prepare for test day. I am consistently scoring my goal score, but I wouldn’t mind boosting it a bit more. Is it a good idea to take more PTs or should I let my brain rest?

Any advice is welcome. Good luck to everyone taking the September test!

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I'm so disappointed man... During the summer, before college started, I, was doing so well, My scores broke 160, I rarely ever lost more than 5 points on RC and LR. But todays PT, and of recent, have just been deplorable. Last weeks PT was 157, todays PT is 155, i haven't scored a PT in the low 160's since 3 weeks ago... I'm so tired of all of this. My official is next week too, like, cmon man.

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Hey everyone, I’ve noticed a few 7Sage study groups that frequently collaborate eventually end up shifting over to Discord, and I’m trying to understand why.

I’m not really a gamer, so Discord isn’t something I’ve ever used much. Is there an actual benefit to using Discord for LSAT study groups, or is it more of a “this is what we’re comfortable with / already have” situation?

The main thing I’m trying to figure out right now is screen sharing and working through questions together where you can use markings. I haven’t actually joined the study group feature on the 7Sage platform yet, so I don’t know what the built-in group calls are like or what features they have.

Ideally, I’d like to be able to pull up a question, share my screen (similar to Zoom), and have everyone mark things up, write on a whiteboard, or otherwise work through the problem together.

Is that something the 7Sage group feature already allows? Or is Discord significantly better for this kind of thing?

Basically, I’m just trying to figure out the best setup before I get too far into organizing the group.

Of note: we start 9/9 if anyone is interested in joining the study group.

If anyone has experience with both 7Sage groups and Discord, I’d appreciate hearing what you prefer and why. - I may reach out and ask more specific questions if you came across a way that worked.

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Hi all, I’ve been getting back into heavy LSAT studying before the September LSAT (after being super sick and also busy with personal matters for 1-2 months) and I’ve noticed that I’ve been feeling pretty inconsistent with RC sections (ranging from -0 to -6, even).

Would anyone be able to give me advice on how to be more consistent and how to improve on timing? I think timing has really affected me the most on my consistency because sometimes I do feel rushed on some questions or I spend too long on certain questions which ends up throwing me off (and sometimes I end up still getting the answer wrong along with others).

Thanks so much.

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I've registered for the September LSAT on the 11th and have been preparing actively until last week. I was pretty confident about my everyday progress and was hitting my target scores frequently until last week.

A week ago, I had a mental and physical crisis. Mentally, I was trying to do some detailed analysis to improve my RC by spending a whole afternoon reading and taking notes on a few of the hardest passages, and then I felt like I couldn't read English anymore — I felt like the words were floating in front of me and didn't make any sense anymore.

Physically, since I have a 9-5 job that requires me to sit at my desk all the time stressfully, and I have to sit for a few more hours before and/or after work for LSAT prep, I had the most serious neck and back pain of my life. I couldn't sit, lie down, or sleep with that pain. Going to urgent care tomorrow.

This is my first official LSAT, and now I really don't think I can hit my target score this time. I've only studied for a few months (along with my 9-5), and I seriously couldn't commit more time to the LSAT. I've also registered for the June LSAT but canceled it at the last second — I wasn't prepared well for that one and was really uncomfortable taking it without any confidence.

I plan to apply next cycle, and I think the September one is probably worth a shot. Even if I can't hit my target score, here are some pros:

  1. I can become more familiar with the test center environment. I have ADHD and my 150% accommodation has been approved, but I'm not sure if I can perform well when people are walking, typing, and just breathing around me. So I can collect data this time to see if I should ask for other accommodations.

  2. I don't wanna bail again this time — last time I was only about 35% prepared, but this time I was at 90% until last week. I don't expect a miracle to happen this time, but bailing on myself feels bad too.

  3. I can cancel my score anyway, though it would use up one of my LSAT attempts.

Well... didn't realize I've written so much already, and sorry for bringing some negative energy... I probably just want to vent and can't find anybody in my real life. Looks like I've already convinced myself to take the September one, but still wanna hear your thoughts!

For the people who are on the same boat, you are not alone — here's another broken soul (and body). Let's just hang in there!!! We will be fine!!

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Edited 19 hours ago

🙃 Confused

RC advice PT133.S4.P3 advice

Hi all, I have been doing pretty well on RC lately but got hit pretty hard by PT133.S4.P3. I am trying to increase speed a bit and do little less annotating as some of the things like tone, perspective, ect are becoming second nature to recognize, and I think I also have been trying not to get too bogged down with the details in the passage, and try to see how other content and structure can help me understand it.

This passage was a science passage that requires a good understanding of the phenomenon that was occuring. I think I let myself be too high level and not take the time to fully understand the phenomenon and details to the extent needed for the questions.

I think with hindsight I could have eliminated answers more easily, but has anyone done this pasagebefore or have similar issues with some science passages? Or even is there some changes to my approach I should consider.

And FYI, really happy I did so badly on this one cause I think it shows a gap in my current methodology that I can hopefully address.

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I believe a key to major improvement is yes, being able to identify the question types and its reasoning patterns/flaws. But the key things also identifying your own reasoning patterns. Once you're able to identify how your brain is thinking and processing information, you can train from there to become disciplined in the way the LSAT reasons.

Takeaway: Discover what your lsat blinders are and weaken it!!!!!!!!!

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Hey y’all, anyone know off rip the similarities in terms of LR Question types in PT 151 and PT 157? (Trying to figure out if these PTs had more of a certain Q type or na)

Yall think mindset is key to comprehending and thus answering correctly? For Both LR and RC

How to not fall alseep (I read the most boring —to me, sorry old photography lovers— passage about old photo techniques PT 139??) when a passage isn’t something I’m interested in and the passage is dense and or jargony?

Thank Youuuuu

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I understand how to diagram premises 1 and 2 and why overlooking the fact that some computer scientists may not appreciate is a flaw, but I, for the life of me, cannot understand how the author's conclusion diagrams out to "computer scientist -> appreciate tech advancements." I interpret the conclusion as only those who appreciate advancements are computer scientists, so if you appreciate the advancements, you must be a computer scientist (appreciate advancement -> computer scientist). I don't understand how an only those statement in premise 2 would differ in diagramming from an only those statement in the conclusion. Thank you SO much in advance.

Pic of question below

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I am a non traditional First Gen College/Law Student and have somehow found myself on my last LSAT attempt. My first attempt was a 142-Cancelled, 2nd was 148-Kept, 3rd and 4th were cancelled they were 147/148 (don't remember which was which). I am fully aware of how bad that looks and do plan to do an LSAT addendum. My GPA was 3.84, but my LSAC GPA is a 3.09, there is an addendum with support from my undergrad as to why.

In 2024/2025, I applied with the 148 and was waitlisted and ultimately denied at my top choice (which is very surprising because their median LSAT averages 169-172 and GPA 3.8-3.9), denied at my 2nd and 3rd. Got in to quite a few others, some with scholarship, but not enough to make it, especially now with the borrow limits.

I do have a master's now that I did not have the first time I applied, and my GPA was 3.93, which I know doesn't count, but figured it will look good.

My question is- Has anyone ever gone from 148 or similar to mid 160s or higher? How long did it take you, and what did you do to get there? How often did you study, and what did those study sessions look like?While I don't have a set time frame, I am in my 30s and feel like time is ticking.

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I struggle with timing on RC and tend to spend way too much time on the passages that trip me up. I've read online that some people will take the first minute or so to skim the passages, prioritize them from easiest to hardest, and tackle the easier ones first. I'm curious as to how many people actually employ this strategy and if they've found it to be helpful in improving their RC score or if I'd be wasting even more precious time trying this.

Do you use this strategy? How well does it work?

Have you tried it and found it to be a time suck?

I know this probably comes down to personal preference, but I'm willing to try anything for RC!

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I’m currently registered to take my second LSAT in September after scoring a 158 on my first official attempt in August. My practice test scores have been improving—on my most recent test, I scored a 163 under timed conditions and a 170 on blind review—and I’m optimistic that I can improve on my September score.

That said, I’m also wondering whether taking the October test could give me a better chance of reaching my ultimate goal of a 170. I had a couple of questions about this plan:

  1. Does it look bad to take the LSAT three times?

  2. If I’m hoping to apply during this admissions cycle, would submitting my applications at the end of October, at the absolute earliest, put me at a significant disadvantage?

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Hi all! Been seeing some information online and some of it seems to conflict so just wanted some clarity regarding this if anyone has it.

Is the material in PT157-159 representative of the newer exams? And how is it different from 150-156? Is there any difference between the two in terms of the content date?

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I RSVPd for today's zoom meeting with the Admissions Counselor but a conflict arose and I was no longer able to attend. Did any of you happen to attend and have any great insight on what you learned and would like to share? Thank you in advanced! So bummed I missed it.

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Riding high on my perfect section score from earlier in the day, I decided to sit for a PT at 11:30 at night after spitting a tranquilizer dart at my son bc that's apparently the only way to get him to leave me alone for 3 hours. Will not be elaborating whether or not that is sarcasm, we are in the home stretch here, nothing is off the table.

But I collapsed on section 2, apparently. All the confidence I desperately needed to tackle this in 11 days just POOF. Practice Test with your best brain in the game y'all. Mental fatigue is real.

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Hi, I've been taking practice tests with the Black on White color theme, using Dark Mode. It makes the background look dark gray, which is the easiest for me to read.

I don't see the Dark Mode option on Law Hub, so the Black on White theme is literally just black on white. Am I missing something? Is there a way to turn on Dark Mode in Law Hub and on the actual LSAT? I'm taking it next week and hope to see the text the way I've been practicing. Thanks!

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Something interesting I've realized.

I'm more likely to get a simple question wrong than a more complex one. The very attention to detail and scrutiny that allows me to navigate level 5 questions invites me to overthink and talk myself out of the right answer on a very simple question. I've gotten 167-168 4 times in the last 2 weeks. And I'm realizing that, actually, its on the easy questions!

This is somewhat of a funny and pleasant observation. I'll just need to practice the easy ones again. Anyone else looking forward to September test :D

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Started studying about 2.5 months ago. My baseline was a 157. So far I've been improving pretty steadily. But then my two most recent PT's have been stuck at 169. I'm hoping to eventually build up to the 174 range. Currently signed up for October LSAT. Anyone have any advice for breaking into the 170's?

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I have been sleeping really poorly the last week or so due to a combination of social obligations, working full time, and fitting in 3-4 hours a day of LSAT study. Last night while exhausted I performed very poorly on an LR section relative to my expectations.

It felt extremely demotivating. I was super short on time and really struggled to interpret anything I was reading. Instead of doing a blind review right then, I decided to just go to sleep. I knew I'd end up even more sleep deprived while obsessing over every wrong answer.

I got a ton of MUCH needed sleep and did my BR this morning. Soon after I did another LR section. It felt incredibly easy by comparison. I know the sample size is small, but I've noticed a major correlation between my scores and how well rested I am. It makes sense to me that something as difficult as the LSAT would prey on a tired mind. If you take 10 extra seconds on every question (which as a percentage of the recommended time per question is really not that crazy) you will end up in a major time deficit.

All of that to say, I'm feeling a lot better. Time to improve on the concepts I didn't understand in the BR! Good luck everyone.

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💪 Motivated

Improve LR from -4 to 0???

Basically the title but I'm looking for advice.

On my last few LR sections, I've gotten -4 consistently. Save one -7 on a particularly bad day, I've gotten -4 and one -5 on my last 6 sections. I started studying seriously in June and have improved massively from getting -10/-11 but I want to keep pushing towards my goal score.

The ones I'm getting wrong are all level 4 and 5 questions, so definitely the more difficult ones at the end of the sections, and I'm often correcting them in BR, but there's no way on the actual test to do BR... so I want to turn those -4s into -1/0!!!!

Is the only way to get over this by continually drilling? Or are there other practices yall have done that's more helpful? I'm testing in October so looking for whatever advice I can get. Thanks!

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