Hello,

I have reached the final logical reasoning question type: parallel or analogy. This question type has highlighted how much I struggle with mapping out formal logic. It isn't necessarily that I don't understand the principles, but rather, where to begin? Once I watch the explanation video and see the first step, I am able to fully understand how to continue, it's just the initial step.

Furthermore, I especially struggle with identifying all of the different logical reasoning ploys, i.e., reason by analogy, appeal to authority, sample to population generalization, and so on.... It seems like there are so many different subtypes that it's difficult to remember them all. Does anyone have a cheat sheet which simply explains all of these niche logical reasoning tactics?

Thanks so much,

Sav

Howdy y'all! I just joined the 7Sage platform to study for the October test, which I didn't expect to be taking. Just took September (after Blueprint's 170+ live class) and I don't know if I actually broke 170, so here we go again.

I know that my biggest weakness is conditional/formal logic in LR... I have the basics down but kinda freak out when there's a 5-6 sentence stimulus that you're expected to diagram to find the missing link or what must be true.

Anyway... for the seasoned 7Sage studiers... what lessons/content do you recommend?? I don't want to go through the whole curriculum; I just want the full-fledged 7Sage take on complex diagramming LR questions. Tips/Recs? What materials should I read/watch/review?

In advance: THANK YOU!!!!

I am and have been stuck at 165 for awhile now. I can see a big issue for me is I can't even do medium level conditional logic. I often make mistakes like not taking the contrapositive, applying the wrong translation rule, and not connecting my chains. How can I learn, practice, and master conditional logic? I have watched the 7sage material several times but it just does not stay with me.

Hi everyone,

I'm averaging around the 170 mark, and I'm looking for some ideas and variations for my drills. How many questions should I include in one drill? If I'm missing mostly the harder LR questions, should I do, say, repeated drills of 5 questions on "hard" mode (I personally found this to be kind of underwhelming, which is why I'm questioning if it's a good method.)?

I would also love to hear any drill-setups that others have found useful – things like the doing the first 15 questions of an LR section in 15 minutes, or targeting specific question-types. Any help would be really appreciated!

It seems like I am incapable at doing the strengthening and weakening questions. I read the answer choices and just think that none of them make sense. I could use some advice.

So, I'm sure a lot of you are in the same boat as me and are panicking for the September LSAT. I am reaching out to ask people who have already written the test or are also writing it next week, what they are doing to prepare themselves for test day. I know I should get a good sleep, exercise, and eat to keep my energy intact but besides that, what's the best practice for these last 7 days? Should I be doing full practice tests every day, drilling, doing sections, or just relaxing? I know that I will probably not get my desired score, however, I want to put my all into this and not let my last 4 months of studying go to waste. I am also seeking any tips for how to keep up your momentum, considering the test is fairly condensed in 2 hours and 45 minutes.

My other area of concern is my argumentative writing sample. In the next week, I don't have any free time to complete it and was wondering when is the latest that I can complete it and still get my score on September 25th like everyone else? Also, I was planning to go into it blind, but have been told otherwise. How many practice samples should I complete? I don't want to waste my time, but at the same time, I want to be able to write a well-crafted essay.

Finally, for those who have done remote testing, when do you recommend setting up the test software and is 30 minutes before the exam a sufficient amount of time to log in and get settled in with the proctor?

For anyone who has reached this far and takes the time out of their day to ease my anxiety by replying to my thread, thank you in advance and good luck to you all!

Here's the link that a bunch of other 7sage members and I have! Looking to kick it off this week.

https://discord.gg/JCKBH4BkEp

Hey guys, so I graduated undergrad about 2 years ago, and a majority of my classes ended up being online at the time due to Covid, although I have already emailed a few Professors I had in person asking if they would be willing to write me one, I have gotten denied. At this point I feel really stuck and Im not sure what to do. I could ask an old boss but I have only worked retail jobs during my gap year or didnt work at all. Any advice? Is it possible to apply without any letters? I know its a stretch but im freaking out.

So I’m getting ready to take the October LSAT and I’ve realized I’m not even close to ready. My entire time drilling, I’ve only ever done LR. I’m in a bad spot. I’ve barely touched on RC but I am hoping my stride for mastery of LR will help my skills on RC. I suppose this leads me to ask what is my best strategy to getting prepared for this test? How many questions should I be drilling per day? To add to the frustration, I’m not sure I’m getting much better at the question types that I most struggle with. I’ve only done a few practice tests since I feel like drilling would be more effective because it’s targeting my weaknesses. Any advice is appreciated.

If anyone can help explain this I would truly appreciate it!! I've been trying to understand it for the past hour but still can't grasp why the right answer is right. I've watched the explanation video on 7sage and read power score's explanation but don't understand their conditional diagrams.

Conclusion: Thus, without increased funding from sources other than profit-driven institutions, the chemistry department is unlikely to gain the prestige that only achievements in basic science research confer.

Evidence/Premise:

Diagram explained by Power-score:

Premise: Advances in basic research -> More money

Premise: Gain prestige -> Advances in basic research

Conclusion: Gain prestige -> Money from sources other than Big Pharma.

Assumption/Pre-phrase: More money -> Money from sources other than Big Pharma

This is my new Diagram while reworking the problem:

SABR = Significant advances in Basic Research/ Only achievements in basic research confer

SFBR = Secure Funding for Basic Research

GP = Gain the Prestige

IF (NP) = Increased Profit from Non profits and non Pharmaceutical companies

Premise 1: SABR -> SFBR

Premise 2: GP -> SABR

Conclusion: GP -> IF (NP)

So here is where I am lost. I originally only had Premise 1 and the Conclusion diagramed because I thought "that only achievements in basic science research confer" was a part of the Conclusion. But I am assuming because of the necessary indicator "only" we need to add another premise and thats where premise 2 comes in? But I'm confused where we connect the pre-phrase/missing link/assumption because there are 2 "GP's". If anyone can please help explain because I know understanding this will be helpful towards future questions with the same difficulty and concept. I tried understanding it without conditional diagrams as I would approach it like any other NA question, but that was difficult as well.

Hi guys!

I am a bit confused on how to use "without" when writing out conditionals. I understand that you negate the sufficient when you see the word without, but what if the statement says:

John always sleeps without socks.

Isn't "always" a necessary indicator?

Would it be diagrammed as:

sleep -> /socks (this one makes more sense to me)

or

/socks -> sleep

Another example, I know that if the statement says: You can't come home without making money, the conditional would be written out as:

come home -> made money.

Just a bit confused with the "always... without..." statement I mentioned initially.

Thanks!

I have been doing a couple of NA questions and I have noticed that the right answer choice sometimes sounds stupid but most of the time is linked to something said in the conclusion. Would this always be the case? Is the right answer for NA questions always linked to something that was mentioned in the conclusion?

I feel like i have been getting these confused. Could someone explain the approach to solving these? I know the NA has to be true but what does that even mean I think im overthinking these questions.

Does anyone know how the exact strategy for weakening questions? I've listened to every approach but continue to get the the most easiest Weakening questions wrong.

Looking to increase by score by at least 15 points in the November test. I just really need words of encouragement and ways you guys are able to stay commitment and focused. What are some techniques you guys use? If anyone is interested in creating a study group please let me know!

Update: I created a discord and I'm still in the middle of setting everything up. Both for those of you who want to join!

https://discord.gg/JCKBH4BkEp

LINK IS UPDATED AND SET TO NEVER EXPIRE

If you are having issues joining please DM me!

Hello,

I am writing the November LSAT and I am genuinely so confused and over whelmed with how to get started. How often do I need to do a practice test how do I work through all the material? They removed logic games, how do I tackle the other sections?

I need help understanding why the correct answer choice (A) is correct for this question. I understand that all the other answer choices are terrible (leaving A as the only answer choice), but I still feel like A is too strongly stated to be a necessary assumption for the argument.

In my thinking, a necessary assumption for the argument is that the econ explanation and psychological explanation are mutually exclusive from each other. Answer choice A seems to go way beyond this and say that the econ explanation is excludes all other explanations (not just the psychological one).

What's wrong with my thought process? Thanks!

Hey is anyone coming across an issue where their videos are not loading for the lectures and it says due to their server?

I've been having issues with Link Assumption and Conditional Reasoning questions. Does anyone have any good resources (7sage live classes, syllabus, outside books, etc.) they suggest to improve on these questions types?

Hi everyone, I'm looking for a copy of Ellen Cassidy's Loophole and it seems to be unavailable everywhere. I'm in Canada but can pay for shipping from wherever. Please let me know if you have a used copy you want to part with.

Thanks,

D.

Hey guys, so I graduated undergrad about 2 years ago, and a majority of my classes ended up being online at the time due to Covid, although I have already emailed a few Professors I had in person asking if they would be willing to write me one, I have gotten denied. At this point I feel really stuck and Im not sure what to do. I could ask an old boss but I have only worked retail jobs during my gap year or didnt work at all. Any advice? Is it possible to apply without any letters? I know its a stretch but im freaking out.

Hi everyone,

I've done a handful of prep tests here on 7sage now and have been getting a 160 every time (minus a one time fluke of a 166). According to the analytics page, my worst LR topics are Causal and Conditional Reasoning and Link Assumptions.

Does anyone have any advice on ways to improve in these areas (strategies, syllabus lessons, etc.)? Also, does anyone have any advice on how to break past the 160 barrier?

Thanks in advance for any insights you might have!

Hi all,

I took my first LSAT back in April, and after getting my score back, I realized I wanted to brush up a little more and take it again in the fall. With that, I'm scheduled to take it this Friday.

The thing is, I haven't taken a real, sit-down practice test since I was studying for my April exam. This summer, I started using 7sage and focused on getting the lessons and drilling. In terms of timing, I've been pretty good. I know it's a bad idea not to have taken any PT, but also, I'm scared to take a PT and get a bad score and feel discouraged for my real exam this week.

I guess I just need someone to second my opinion, or if anyone else is in the same boat as me, you're not alone.

Good luck to everyone taking it this month!

I got a 156 on the August LSAT, lower than what I got on PTs while I was studying. I'm retaking in October and really would like to be in at least the mid 160s. I am so lost on how to study to make this happen. I did PTs and drills for the first test with a wrong answer journal but felt like I was not improving. Any advice is super appreciated!

Hi, so I have a Wrong Answer Journal and I now have around 162 questions that I have jotted down for LR

I’m wondering how I can go about efficiently redoing these questions being that there is soo many other questions I have not done yet that I may even get wrong after a PT.

I'm just overwhelmed with trying to redo them and getting them right the next go around. And the more drills and PT I do the more I add creating a backlog. Any tips?

#help