@.hopkins I'm sure you would have a huge increase from the first time! Maybe it was a risk but retaking it made me feel really good going into June's test, like whatever I wasn't getting before, I did get now. Oddly enough I scored +2 from my 72 score on the Feb lsat and +2 from my second 72 score on the June (scaled not raw).

@ what was your most difficult test?

@ lol. A "sage" says over-hyped! What about for us common folk? 72 was the stuff of nightmares the first time around and I didn't even realize it when I was taking it. The second time I had taken like 15 tests in between so I don't think I remembered the answers (especially since I didn't properly review it after the first) but it just made more sense to me. Maybe a better way to put it is 72 is a good measure of your readiness!

Lr was the worst I had ever scored. Not sure why, just didn't click for me.

@.hopkins is right on 72! Skip it, seriously that test shattered my confidence before feb 2015. I was scratching my head thinking there must be something I did worng to score 10pts lower than usual. Nope, just got them all wrong. I retook just for fun before June test and scored in the high 160s, but never did figure out a good way for that last puzzle...

Prep tests are like gold. Don't waste!

I used 7sage and 30ish prep tests. 8 months in 155, 12 months in 168... if I worked harder in the 8 months maybe I could have scored higher, but the more time the better. JY mentions in one of the first 7sage videos to give yourself 12 months. At that time I was planning on 3 months, he was right.

I applied in Feb but after receiving my score asked that my app not be considered until I retook in June. I did, results in July and was accepted 2 weeks later (and heavily pursued by other schools whose application deadlines had far passed). I think most schools will accept scores from anytime if the score is right.

You can't tell. By the end you can obviously tell which section you had an extra of. The best thing to do is use it in your favor. I really thought I did horribly on section 1, instead of letting it get me down, I said "it could be experimental" and pushed through the rest without letting it affect my morale. It wasn't and I actually only missed 2. I remember a story from the Feb lsat where a girl started with lg, it was so horrible she got thrown off and got up and cancelled. It was experimental. I think it can really be blessing that one will not be scored and on test day you can benefit from tricking yourself into thinking it will be what you need it to be.

I was -0 to -2 in logic games with my pt and -6 on actual june test. My advice is to master lr, they are the most in quantity and there is little variation. Rc and lg can go either direction even with the best preperation dwpending on what you get. Rc was my worst and I ended up killing it, you never know. Lr was right on with what I expected. I was able to score on the high end of my pts even with a disappointment on lg.

@, I try to avoid TLS as much as possible but I will check it out. All of these books say the professors will try to keep key information from you hoping that you will intuitively know to look for what you don't even know exists. So, I'm not sure that the school would give me the tools ahead of time. It seems like that's part of the 1L experience, but I only have books and websites to rely on. I know it's largely LSAT prep here, but I was hoping for previous 7sagers who are now in school or administrators who could give what helps/helped them. The weeks of "freedom" are already gone as I have begun my first class readings and when I said "the next few weeks", it would have been more accurate to say a week...

Take more! once you hit 20 you will notice how much faster you are getting. RC was also my hardest and I was able to start anticipating the questions that would be asked which dramatically improved my time. I know that 10 or 12 seems like a lot of tests, and it is, but it gets much better. Once you hit 165 you wont be back in the 150's anymore. Do the 10 test 60's book and by the end I'm sure you will be there. Probably higher than 165 and you still have a lot of time. Don't get discouraged. After 15 pts and an real test155 in Feb, I thought my first 167 was wrong. It wasn't, I never got another 15_ again. and I scored a real 168 in June. The only difference was the amount of pts before feb (12) to june (25+).

"What's fascinating is that you will be one of these poor people..."

@.hopkins thanks, I think it's so much better to hear real stories rather than just people's scores. I read someone's comment that it took them at least 12 to even start to see a difference and I remembered that when I was not seeing a change.10 tests can be really crushing if you don't know it gets better. Especially 10 tests after doing the whole 7sage course. It's hard. I thought I was "pretty smart" but this test really humbled me. I really wanted to be in the 170s, I thought I worked hard enough for it. But when you shoot for perfection and miss, you can still end up in the 96th percentile. Because I noticed some stupid uncommon mistakes I made, I got really close to retaking in October just to accomplish my goal of 170s. Don't lose sight of what your goal really is, I got into my first/only choice 4 weeks before class starts so I guess I will let the 170 go.

You know the answer. I completely respect family so i mean this with no disrespect, they will not be paying this debt. And the guilt of your grandfather possibly "not being able to see you graduate"? If that happens, is ok. He will know. He won't see great grandchildren from you either but had not pressuring you to go get someone pregnant. Congrats on your score. I would apply early decision and retake in Oct for higher score/possible scholarship. It's time they respect your decisions for your life.

@ I also took an undisclosed test in February. I scored far below what I was expecting and I still don't know what went wrong. I think in hindsight, it was better that way. I did not obsessively analyze my weaknesses, I just started over and focused on the test as a whole. I think if I knew what I missed in February I would have missed some growing opportunities in every section because I would have only worked on what I was missing. My the difference of my score in June and my score in February was the equivalent of getting every answer on an entire section wrong... Which I probably did. But I had never scored as high on a single prep before February as I did in June. Even if I had not mismarked some or all of a section, (which I'm fairly sure must have happened) I would not have scored what I received today but I would have accepted the score that I was averaging at the time. The extra few months was everything. I improved my average by 8 points. The hardest part for me (and maybe you will experience too) is moving forward with that last score in my mind. When I would score well on a prep test I would think, "yeah but I had done that before and I still messed up when it mattered." I carried a little of that anxiety with me into this test and during the wait. My advice would be to let it go, you now have actual test center experience, which is so important. You know what to expect next time. And, appreciate that you don't know what went wrong. This is your chance to improve in places you wouldn't have worked on otherwise. Good luck over the next few months!

Feb 2015

A)158

B)160

C) 155

June...

B)167

C)168

There is something so pretty about a number that starts with 17_ but I will happily take my 13 pt increase.

Thank you @ you actually made this journey enjoyable.

@.arpino amazing!!!!!

Yes yes yes. It is!

IT'S GRAY DAY!

@ sounds like no matter what, you trust that the score will get you to the place you need to be at this point in your life. It's a good place to be, I still stress about the score a little but I know that if the score is not what I needed for my 1st choice school, then that school wasn't the right direction for me at this time and I will try one with more acceptances. It makes "disappointments" much easier to know that they are just redirections. Good luck to you, I hope you get what you had hoped for.

@ it should be handled like the baby "gender reveal" parties. You hand the unseen score to... Let's say a bakery, then they somehow now incorporate this score into the cake. You gather every freaking person you know, bring them to your house, cut the cake open, and find out what your score right along with everyone else. It's hard to cry around that many people and cake!

@ I can't wait for the law school headache, and the law firm headache, and the headache that the clients will give. The opposing counsel headaches, the court headaches, bring them all on!

I didn't start getting the score I ultimately got on the LSAT until I had take about15 pts. The more the better. There is a pattern and the only way to recognize it is to keep seeing it. Keep going and don't be discouraged. I studied from July-May with 158-162 pts no movement for 10 months, then in May 166+ never dropped again. Nothing felt different but the scores were consistent. I took in June 168. Keep going, you're really close.

33 starting in 2 weeks but looks like my class is mostly 22-25. @ map shows you are right across the street from me, I just took the June lsat, let me know if I can help.