Thought the same thing as you two once did. But I eliminated D because I repeated to myself "Nowhere does the stimulus argue it matters to discuss opposing views, only to discuss things carefully."

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@Kevin_Lin Hi Kevin, I’ve tried this exercise and had an LLM generate a transcript, but do you mean that we should try to watch it back and look for patterns / inefficiencies? I firmly believe earning time on the clock could make a huge difference, because sometimes I do bank too much on a question I’m sure is the hardest in the section even though optimally I should’ve moved on and came back (though with so many flags on test day it’s hard to remember who I actually need to come back to!)

@businessgoose

From the quality of the analysis in your comments all over the decades of LR questions we’ve both been doing, I fully believe you also know this test really well.

I think there is just a mindset / execution gap that we’re missing, like we need to “zoom out” and try to start reading LR more intuitively again. Cause I am fairly confident I am perfect scoring (or -1ing) RC which means I’m literally getting -5/LR per section which never ever happens to me in practice.

In my opinion, the 7Sage explanation is missing the point of why people are getting this wrong.

A is testing if you assume that high cohesion always causes groupthink, because we see that high cohesion is necessary, but not sufficient for groupthink and invulnerability/feelings of excessive power are characteristics of groupthink. I think it's totally a valid inference to argue someone who feels INVULNERABLE may be confrontational, but that is still wrong because we may be the "good kind" of high cohesion rather than the "bad, groupthink kind." It's also wrong because negotiating styles never come up, but I still think it's totally believable you could infer one who felt all-powerful might negotiate differently!

I chose B begrudgingly because I thought it was too strong to say it is difficult, but without a fairly high degree of cohesiveness, I assumed low cohesiveness, where people comply out of fear, thus how can we trust them to examine every option?

I am shocked that you spent a decade writing legal documents and hate LSAT writing. And what about your metaphysics class in philosophy lol? Didn't they write even worse?

In my opinion there are two ways to get this kinda question right:

1) Subject it to made up numbers (if there are 100 children, 15 are obese, what must happen for there to be even more obese kids).

2) Process of Elimination

I recommend 2) because literally every other choice is garbage and you shouldn’t waste cognitive bandwidth where you don’t have to. Excellent question to practice POE and reflect upon if you got it wrong.

Hi Simon, congratulations.

We have very similar stats on 7Sage, but when I go into the exam (this past June) and August, LR has felt like it is much harder and requires much more nuance to get answers correct than in any of the PT150s. Do you share the same feeling? Or do you think LR is the same? For example, I found August had a lot of "Agree/Disagree" questions that were incredibly challenging, if you remember what I am referring to.

Do not cancel the score. Admissions officers are even sometimes a little snarky about canceled scores and they do not care about the difference between a 160 and 157. You should retake it because of the target median.

For now, yes, there is even language in the core curriculum that addresses people who are 100%ing three passages and guessing on the fourth.

However, you should understand that the point of the test is that the speed is difficult.

A drill that may help you is choosing 4 articles from "The Economist" and trying to read them at LSAT-like speeds, since their writing style is shockingly close at times (even down to the author indicating an explicit opinion/tone toward a subject that is not addressed in the headline).

@SaraHuelskamp It's a uniquely bad argument, that's why. I looked at this and was like, this reads like a list of premises. However, the use of the word "But" in the last premise implies that something about the previous statement [that the operas have bad sterotypes about women] is not the case.

It's a bad argument because it could very well be true that a small minority of contemporary North Americans were exposed to the operas [the last premise], and that the operas reinforce bad stereotypes [the second premise]. After all, you don't need an audience to intrinsically contain bad stereotypes!

I hope that makes sense. Basically, the argument is terrible so you have to go all in on trusting that you understand the indicator terms used in the paragraph.

Anyone else find this question suspiciously easy? Like, answer choice A just says "because companies do not care about what courts say." Like, yeah, clearly they don't. We knew that from the stimulus lol.

My understanding is that submitting as soon as you get the October score is actually perfect timing. November test may be risky though.

Later submission with higher LSAT always mogs an earlier application they hardly even glance at due to the LSAT score.

Lots of reading for a very underwhelming question.

@Elijahw I personally welcomed it. June was a bunch of crazy correlation style questions that felt nothing like the 150s, so this test made me feel awesome by comparison. Unfortunately have to do a make up test but am trying to learn what I can in the interim.

This is a peculiar problem. It is likely that you are just getting uninterested in the test and forgetting the fundamental standards of what LR and RC question answers require, and then remembering them later.

@Kevin_Lin Kevin there's so little for $70/month. Paying for two AIs seems a little absurd so it's hard to justify the extra cost for Live, especially when I don't really want anything in Live.

I know this is not what you want to hear. But the median LSAT is essentially 155 for accredited law schools. You are not effed if you bomb this test, but you may want to consider cancelling it and eating the cost of the exam. If your profile is accurate, there is a lot more you can put into the test and it is not worth forcing yourself to sit through an LSAT and using one of your attempts.

Kevin. It's been day 9 without my Sage AI. I miss my parasocial relationship.

1) A week after your exam is perfectly fine. Approval takes a few business days in most cases.

2) No.

3) Think in paragraphs, not a length requirement. An intro, two body paragraphs [one for each major point], a counterargument paragraph, and a conclusion is what most people do. Sometimes, people don't make the counterargument an independent paragraph if it is related to one of the arguments. Personally, I found it helpful to literally just do 1 document per argument.

Just make sure you do at least 2 of the 3 released prompts on your own to get a sense of the time crunch.

Edit: There is also a wide variety in the prompts. I can't prove it, but based on the two prompts I had (I had a tech issue my first attempt) they are shockingly similar to some debate-style LSAT RC Passages.

@Jordanabel Just be careful, cause old-style questions sometimes are looking for a summary and not a main point in the stem. Mostly, yes.