Some tests are disclosed and some art not. Just about every prep test available on 7sage are tests that have been disclosed (i think we're waiting on one). The tests that aren't disclosed are sometimes used in case of emergency, much like the pandemic we're in now. For example, an LSAT administered in Asia in 2017 is was the same as a non-disclosed test that was administered in NA in 2013. Hope that provides clarity

Signed up for the 14th, nice and easy

That's not necessarily true, LSAC mostly uses non-disclosed tests probably over the last 2-3 years for the makeup tests that people write. They're not burning through new questions

I wouldn't say that the tests are harder, they're just more abstract. Best way to think about it is how they frame SA questions. Before it was mostly conditional, now it's more dependant on if you actually have a grasp of the argument opposed to conditional logic and just mapping everything out. For LG, the 3rd or 4th game are abstract games as well but honestly they're kind of easier, they just hinge on you grasping that one subtle clue to the game, and once you do, everything becomes a breeze

Pretty likely just because its hard to fathom having normal testing conditions with a few hundred people at a test centre and 20/30 in a class at one given time. For further proof, the fact most schools are only offering online classes is indicative that it wont be likely to have large gatherings. Even if they want to have in-person tests, its hard to imagine hiring a bunch of extra proctors and having extra exam halls to accommodate the smaller groups of people that would be writing it.

I think Jy did a very poor job of explaining this question. A lot of what into the video only complicated what the flaw is, which ironically enough, JY never even stated.

The flaw in this argument is a False dichotomy. The author concludes that the officer suspended must be the result of him being late, because the other sufficient condition was satisfied (he showed up to the quarterly board meetings). In doing so, the author overlooks the fact that just because two different sets of conditions warrant a suspension, that no other action can do so. For example, if the officer shot and killed an innocent civilian? That would also likely warrant a suspension. There's a multitude of ways the officer could have been suspended beyond the two conditions given by the author, thus leading back to the false dichotomy.

D is by far the most bullshit answer choice i've ever seen. Typical LSAT bullshit lol

Honestly for #7, i never though and still don't think that it's even a fair question lmao. Like what kind of water based transporation? Am i transporting all the LSAC writers to hell for this question? Am i transporting food? Am i transporting myself to get away from this test? What kind of water based transportation? Also, rivers dont tend to be very large (thus them being rivers and not large bodies of water) so i didn't even know that they were to be considered for "water based transportation"

Well done

@ did you do the writing sample?

You already know whoever wrote the question hates all aspiring law school students ahah

I genuinely dont understand how a customer stating listing inconvenience as a top reason why they dislike a supermarket cant be considered bad for business. For example, if one of my methods (placing bread in the back) which causes inconvenience for my customers is frowned upon, how the hell is that not considered bad for business?

Love to join as well!

It seems like it! considering a second wave is very likely coupled with no large social gatherings for the near future, and almost all uni's having online classes, id be shocked if it wasnt administered online.

To be honest, with the success of the online administered LSAT i wouldnt be surprised if this is the format for the next little while. It all depends on how much material they have from undisclosed/new tests that they can keep using, but so far it seems to be working just fine.

Moreover, from a financial standpoint, i also think its cheaper online than in person, and if you've paid attention to recent LSAC changes, they love nothing more than getting your $

Well to be honest, the fact that the majority of people usually score their PT avg or even lower, the fact you got 4 points higher is a very good sign. The way I see it, you can study for another couple months and maybe hit the same score again, but Id quit while youre ahead tbh

Just finished, overall, proctor experience was great, no problems at all.

Test: LG/RC/LR

LG: Farmer (fields)

LR: Chimps, Lawyer client/Cooks

RC: Jazz Bebop, Science anecdotes

Overall, a very very fair test, no section was difficult. Kinda missed a rule in the last Logic game and barley reocvered

This video is honestly too long, a better job needs to be done of summarizing the key points of why an AC is incorrect or Correct. Who has an hour to spend on just the AC's of one passage? Ridiculous

Question 19, as hard as it is is honestly a beautiful/master type of question. I understood this passage so well yet #19 literally set up the trap with A just waiting for you to pick it. The subtly lies in the wording of the last sentence of the second passage, where the author doesnt imply that that chess players would be bad at other games, only if those games didnt match the configurations of a chess game.(imagine a game where everything was identical to chess except it was "dhess" and it was only played on Alaska). Technically its not chess but a chess master would likely still do well in that game because the sequence of moves would the same.

Answer choice D on the otherhand takes a bit to understand, essentially saying a non-traditional arrangement of chess pieces, meaning even though the pieces are the same, the sequence of moves wouldn't be the same becasue they're not arranged like chess. Thereby being the correct AC.

I score in the mid to high 160's and my advice, is dont bother taking practise tests. Im serious. I would only take 1-2 a few days leading up to the actual test to be accustomed to test day conditions. I usually do 2 timed sections a day on two of the sections, BR, watch videos for mistakes and even correct ones that i was hesitant on. You should just focus on each section separately, timed or untimed to really hone in on where your mistakes and weaknesses lie, and get to the crux of the problem.

People over exaggerate the importance of taking full practise tests in my opinion, I tend to spend about an hour and a bit in total on every section (35 timed) (10 BR) (30 min review) and its really helped me understand where I'm going wrong and how I can fix my mistakes

@ the difference between 25% and 33.3% matters about 8.3% to your mark lol. Its as simple as that, based on your comment, what seems to have dropped your score from the high 160's is LG

AC (D) was really well explained, i got the question right but still had a bit of trouble really understanding the core of why D was wrong. Solid work JY

Writing this as of 2020, which maybe explains why AC (A) for 22 seems enticing. If there's a company in North America that has a monopoly over a certain industry, i felt as though AC A could be correct because of online shopping. Reason being, if there's a competitor who can offer an item of similar quality at a lower price and can ship it, of course that weakens the threat of a monopoly.

Perhaps this is reasoning would lead to an answer choice being re worded differently in 2020 because A really does seem plausible

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From personal experience, I feel like the LR and RC questions in the 80's are different than the 50's, 60's, and 70's. There felt like there were more "chose the best answer out of 0 good answers" than on earlier tests, where the trick with harder questions seemed to me to usually be spotting the twist among a couple of attractive looking answers. That could just be my interpretation but that is how I felt. Two of my 3 best RC scores came from 87-89, I forget which at the moment, because those, while they felt harder at times, apparently were easier for me. My third best RC score was from 50 though, which is supposed to be the worst for RC, so take that with a grain of salt. In general, the LSAT makers do a pretty good job of evening out the difficulty even if an individual test taker may feel like one or the other was much harder.

I will also say that I was horrendously depressed this weekend before finishing BR on 87 because I was sure that i had my worst score in more than a month the weekend before my Flex. It ended up being just above my average at 176 even though I felt like it was brutally hard. That, while it ruined most of my Saturday, has given me faith that, as JY says, we are terrible at knowing how we did on the test in general and to trust the preparation I have put in. Easier said than done, but I advocate doing the same even if you do have a bad test. It is just one test, your average is a much better predictor.

Lol get over yourself

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So it seems like many of us found LR and the last game of LG a little difficult.. this may be a dumb question but does this mean the whole test will most likely get curved more?

The curve doesnt really work like that. I won't bore you with details but essentially a -7 on the Flex would get you around a 170. Depending on the difficulty of your section, you may be able to get a -8 to still hit the 170. If your section is easier then it would be like a -6. Overall, the curve really doesn't help too much, only for one-two very difficult questions

I feel as though AC (B) is still correct and I'm really struggling to see how it isn't.

The conclusion states the the Odyssey and The Iliad aren't written by homer, supported by the premise of the difference in details, vocabulary, and tone. However, if as AC (B) states, that they've come down in manuscripts that have been modified/ had errors, that's a very reasonable assumption to make about how it would affect various aspects of the tone or vocabulary.

I understand how AC (C) is correct, and i contemplated it, but an argument by analogy really doesn't seem that much better than what was stated in AC (B)