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Wednesday, Nov 25 2020

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Wednesday, Nov 25 2020

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THANK YOU ALL!

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My journey was a bit nontraditional, and took about three years in total. For most of my studying I was working a full time job. The first year was pretty bad... I'd try my best to study an hour a day, but sometimes I'd just be so tired I'd just not study. I finished JY's CC and did some PTs and was scoring around the 150s.

The second year I knew I had to change my study habits. Instead of trying to study after work, I knew I had to study before work to get the most out of my brain. So I woke up around 4am, exercised for about 20-30 minutes, and then hit the books for a good two hours each day. That's when I started scoring around the high 150s low 160s I was unemployed for about 3 months during this time and I was able to study a lot during that time. This is when I met Sami at her free tutoring sessions. Without her help, I wouldn't be where I am right now. That's one of the reasons why I also do free tutoring sessions, because I want to help out just like she did.

When the coronavirus pandemic happened in March, I knew I had to take advantage of working from home. This is when my studying became much more intense, and with Sami's help I was able to hit the low 170s. So, I registered to take the June LSAT. My last PT before June was a 170, so I felt good going into the test. Unfortunately, I received a 160. Wasn't sure what went wrong, but I tried to stay positive and was able to work with Sami until she left for law school. Here I also decided to resign and study full time for the LSAT. There were a lot of ups and downs during this time, but the best part was meeting @ and @. Their help was so invaluable to me, and I've learned so much from them. I'm so happy that I've met them and I'm so lucky to call them my friends. I eventually started scoring in the low 170s again before the August LSAT. I took the August LSAT, and unfortunately had proctor issues. I was interrupted 3 times during the logic game section and I felt so defeated. LSAC offered me a refund, but I wanted to see how I did so I didn't take it. I received a 164. The next month was pretty bad for me. I was super stressed because of a lot of external factors - one of my close family members became terminally ill, I got into a huge fight with one of my best friends, and I was dealing with some illness (not covid) that the doctors didn't know about, and were unable to diagnose. But eventually that passed and with the help of Cindy and James and their encouragement, I started studying again for the November LSAt, started hosting free tutoring sessions to help others out, and took the November LSAT, receiving a 173.

For those who are struggling, I would love to help in any way possible. I'm currently hosting free tutoring sessions that 7sagers have said are super beneficial, so I welcome you all to come as well! If there's anything else I can do to help such an amazing community, please let me know and I'll try my best to help out.

Congrats!!! I am so happy to hear that you scored where you have been wanting to score! From our tutoring sessions, I know how hard you have been working towards that score. Best of luck with everything going forward, hopefully I will be up there with you soon enough!

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dianao6512815
Saturday, Oct 24 2020

@ Thank you so much. Trying to not get all emotional this morning but all of your motivating comments have been helping so much. And you are right, its definitely time to take a step back and evaluate how i've been studying because im obviously doing something wrong.

And you are right about it all. If Howard taught me one thing, its how to persevere. Thank you, I needed to hear that :)

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dianao6512815
Saturday, Oct 24 2020

@ Thank you for your vote of confidence! I definitely need to meditate or something and regain my focus. If after a PT or two my score is back where it used to be, ill still take it in November. If not, I will probably move to January. I work full time and sadly cant take much time off, so I need to find a balance between work, study and mental sanity haha because I definitely lost a bit of sanity leading up to the test.

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dianao6512815
Saturday, Oct 24 2020

@ You are 100% right, towards the end when I finally decided to get a tutor, I realized I was not studying in the right way. Its really hard to efficiently self study for a test that is literally all about technique and skill. I have the foundations, I just need to take a step back and re-evaluate that maybe all of the "extra" things I keep reading people do (write out explanations for every questions, time each question, etc) may be necessary. Its just tough while working full time, but it has to be done. Thank you, i definitely still plan on applying this cycle, I owe it to myself. But I most definitely was not in the right headspace for the October test. Like 2 weeks beforehand I burnt out terribly, so I think I just did not recover in time. But thank you, I will take a few days to digest and jump back in.

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dianao6512815
Saturday, Oct 24 2020

@ Thank you for your honest and kind words. I really want to go to a T-14 because I want to go into biglaw for a few years before opening my own criminal defense/immigration firm and eventually become a judge (hopefully). I want to specifically either go to school in California or Washington D.C. (which is where I currently live as a post-grad, my family lives in Cali and that is where I want to eventually practice). I wish money wasnt such a big issue, but I want to make a good amount after graduating law school to pay for undergrad debt and have a solid foundation and from my research its pretty tough getting paid substantially once you go below T-20. I am considering the option to transfer after a year, but I know in order for that to happen I have to get into a school I would still be happy with graduating from incase transferring doesnt work out.

English is a second language for me and standardized tests have never been a strong suit of mine and the LSAT is really exposing both of these issues. I think moving my November exam to January is my best bet, even though I am applying way later than I want to. Hopefully I do well enough by January to get into a top choice. If not, ill re-evaluate and apply again in a year I guess. Im just worried about taking another year off and then being stuck at the same score once again.

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dianao6512815
Saturday, Oct 24 2020

@ thank you for your kind words. Yea i agree, risking another low score in November is not really an option. Hopefully schools are a bit considerate given COVID and the flex and how so much has been changing. I will try again in January and pray for the best. I guess I just hope between now and then I figure out what hasnt been clicking so I can finally score where I know I have the ability to. The LG section in the October test really just took me by surprise.

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Saturday, Oct 24 2020

dianao6512815

Dejected

So, I got my October flex score back...148. I knew after how terrible the LG section was that it would be bad...but wow. I was PT’ing around 154, which I already wasnt happy about because I have been studying for a year now. Last year when I took it in July, I got a 150. I cancelled because I figured a year from then I would be doing much better...but no. Im truly confused on what to do. Im registered for November, I will take a PT and see how im doing and worst comes ill move it to January. Either way, I want to apply this cycle and seeing what happens. I had a 3.92 from Howard U and am a URM. Great extracurriculars, unique PS/DS, strong work history...its just this LSAT.

Everything is already going way off of my plans. I didn’t initially plan on taking a year off, but here I am. I don’t regret it because I have a great paralegal job and am getting great experience...but I have to face the decision of potentially taking another year off. What if I do and my score is STILL the same? Towards the end of my studies for October, I got a tutor and I realized I haven’t been studying correctly. Thats the only thing giving me hope. In the 4 weeks I had a tutor, I didn’t see a score improvement but I did notice I looked at LR a bit questions differently. I honestly dont know how to feel still..or what to do. I want nothing more than to be a lawyer and really want to go to Stanford or Berkeley.

Any words of motivation, advice or stories of personal experience would be much appreciated.

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dianao6512815
Friday, Oct 23 2020

I am also a reverse splitter. I had a 3.92 in undergrad, and am scoring in the 150’s (waiting for October score today, but i have a feeling i wont score up to my PT’s, so im signed up for November as well). I an a URM, with a lot of great work experience and currently on my year off before law school. I really want to go to a T-14, but the LSAT is the only thing holding me back. I know I need roughly a 165 to have a solid shot, but I will still apply with the score I have and see how it goes. If i dont get into any of my top choices, I will either attend a safety school and try and transfer a year in, or take another year off to study (even though I really want to be done with this test and start law school). We will see.

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dianao6512815
Friday, Jan 22 2021

Many schools take the January LSAT score. Although your chances dont necessarily "drastically" decrease, they do decrease quite a bit. Schools have a certain number of seats they need to fill. Those who apply early (October) have the best chance, and by January there are already many seats filled, so they are more selective. If your January score is competitive, no harm in applying. If not, may be worth waiting another cycle and applying in October to have a better chance (and maybe even retake if you can get a higher score). I initially was going to take the January test too and apply this cycle but decided to wait another cycle to apply early October and increase my chances. (Also, apparently this cycle is pretty tough due to all of the deferrals from last years class due to COVID, so there are even less seats available than usual.)

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Tuesday, Jul 20 2021

dianao6512815

Renewing LSAC Law Hub

I have been studying for the LSAT for over a year now and August will be the last time I take it. My $99 Law Hub membership expires in 5 days (It is very annoying that LSAC started making people pay for this last year). Given that I will only be needing to use LSAT material for at most 3 more weeks, I cannot afford to pay another $99 just to stop using 7sage and Law Hub after the August test.

Does anyone have any ideas on if there is any way to only pay a fraction of the $99? I never applied for fee waivers, so I would not be able to get one for the subscription. Any advice is much appreciated!

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dianao6512815
Monday, Aug 16 2021

@ said:

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Just finished. RC-LG-LR-LG. The security guard LG was experimental because that one was insane. The other LG was standard. RC and LR standard (although I swear one of the LR questions at the very end dealing with binding Italian books had a typo, but maybe that is just me)

Ugh - I don't think the security guard LG was experimental, at least, not for me. I only had one LG section, and that game was the 4th one.

Its so odd because some didn’t have the security guard section, some only had the one easier LG section. So i wonder what that means….

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dianao6512815
Sunday, Aug 15 2021

I had 2 LG sections, one was very standard and the other extremely difficult. Should be fine unless the difficult one was the real LG

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Sunday, Aug 15 2021

Just finished. RC-LG-LR-LG. The security guard LG was experimental because that one was insane. The other LG was standard. RC and LR standard (although I swear one of the LR questions at the very end dealing with binding Italian books had a typo, but maybe that is just me)

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Friday, Dec 14 2018

dianao6512815

Upgrading account

I currently have the Starter pack. I got it for the March LSAT, but I will most likely need 7sage for November 2019 test. Which package will be the best and would last up until November or beyond? I don't need access to all PT because I have them all in physical copies, so that is not one of the features that I am looking for. I just want longer access and access to explanations to as many tests as possible because although my physical copies have explanations in the back, JY does a much better job of getting me to understand

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Tuesday, Nov 13 2018

dianao6512815

March LSAT

I an taking the March 2018 LSAT. My diagnostic was a 150 and my goal is 168-170. I know 7sage suggests 1yr of studying but I have to take the march LSAT for the program I am appying to. My weakest subject during the diagnostic was LG, but after blind review I got them all right, so timing is my biggest issue. What is the best way to attain my goal considering im a student and dont have 40hrs a week to study?

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dianao6512815
Monday, Sep 13 2021

@ said:

Diana, congratulations!! I'm so glad that you made it!

Thank you Constantine. Could not have done it without your help!

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dianao6512815
Tuesday, Dec 11 2018

@ right, I definitely don't have 2 years :(

Quick rundown:

URM

3.92 UGPA

150 diagnostic

June 2019- 150 (canceled)

October 2020- 148 :(

July 2021- 157

August 2021- 165 :)

The LSAT and I have a very tough relationship. I started studying during my Junior year in 2019. I read through the Powerscore books and was confident I would be able to teach myself. I got 7sage and studied here and there, not super seriously since I had classes. I took the June 2019 LSAT (the first digital one that allowed you to cancel your score) and I got a 150. I only really took it so I could see how I would do with test day conditions, so I canceled. I continued to study haphazardly (I hated studying for the LSAT since there is no direct return to your studying efforts), hoping for my scores to magically hit 170. I quickly realized that just because I read the Powerscore books and went through the 7sage curriculum, that doesnt mean I studied in a way that would help my score. That is how I studied in school and was able to get a 3.92, but it did not work that way with the LSAT. I had to make the hard decision to take a year off after school to continue studying because I was not seeing the improvement I was hoping for.

Fast forward to 2020, I graduated, and now had more time to study. I drilled, took PT's here and there and got the Loophole book in hopes it would all click. I even finally accepted the fact that I may need a tutor, so I got one and studied with him for a few weeks. I did not want to take another year off, so I decided to take the October test. Sadly, I was not ready and VERY burnt out and got an extremely disappointing 148. I was crushed because it was even lower than the score I got a year prior that I canceled. I felt like an absolute failure and did not want to even think about the LSAT. Pressure from family made it very hard to think that I may need to take an extra year off. (Side note, family can be extremely toxic when it comes to the LSAT and law school application journey, I definitely almost cost myself a great cycle by being tempted to apply to appease my father, even though I knew my score was not where it needed to be. So for those out there struggling with familial pressures, you know what is best for you, trust your instincts.)

After taking a month or so off, and coming to terms with my additional year off, I got back to studying. I found another tutor @Constantine whose teaching style fit my learning style perfectly and with his help I found myself PT'ing in the 160's for the first time ever. It seemed to have clicked! I even PT'd at 168 before I took the July 2020 test. I was shocked by my 157 on that test because I truly thought it was relatively easy (but im convinced the curve was very tight with that one).

I continued to study and was luckily able to get some accommodations for the August 2021 test due to a condition I have that I finally got treatment for. After more studying and getting the time I needed on the August test, I found out yesterday about my 165! I was terrified to look at my score and was pleasantly surprised! Now I can finally kick the LSAT out of the corner of my mind that it has been occupying for years.

Now, with my long LSAT journey finished, here are my take aways:

Nobody knows the perfect way to study for the LSAT. Some can self study, some need structured classes, some need

a tutor. With that being said, its okay if you spend months studying one way and finding out it doesn't work. Use that information to try a new way. Sometimes it takes a lot of trial and failure. Keep trying new ways and consider a tutor!

If you are not PT'ing where you want your score to be around test time, consider taking a later test. I think a lot of us

believe we will be lucky and miraculously score 170 even though our most recent PT's were nowhere near that. I wish I did not take the October test. I was not ready and I knew it.

The trick to LG is doing them often. After a time, like everyone says, it just clicks. The road to it "clicking" does take some time. Do one LG per day, if you can. Even a 1 star question helps you get the pattern down.

RC and LR are both tricky. LR was easier for me to get better at than RC. Once I started studying with Constantine, he

was able to help me get my LR from around -9/-10 to -3/-4. With RC, I had issues focusing. You really have to get yourself engaged with the story and not focus too much on the details.

The LSAT will force you to be very honest with yourself. My goal in the beginning was 170+. While I know I could have gotten there with more studying, I had to realize that the studying and mental anguish it would have taken me to get there was not worth it for me personally. Luckily, law schools look at applications holistically! You may also have to make tough life decisions in your LSAT journey, but in the end, as long as you know you did your best, whatever the outcome is was meant to be.

All in all, I wish everyone that is on their journey the best of luck. Do NOT lose yourself in the process. Your LSAT score does not define you or your overall intelligence. Although I will not miss coming to 7sage to study, I will miss the great community and the support.!

Be safe out there everyone! (3(/p)

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dianao6512815
Thursday, Jun 10 2021

My diagnostic a few years ago was 151. Got a 148 in October 2020 LSAT (should not have taken it because i was burnt out but I was determined to not have to take an extra year off....needless to say I decided to take another year off haha). Currently scoring in the mid 160's, highest PT was a 168. Taking it this weekend and again in August. It is definitely possible! I could have achieved this much sooner if I knew the best way to study (finding the right tutor was a major key for me).

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dianao6512815
Sunday, Dec 09 2018

Congrats! How much studying did you do for this increase? I am trying to get around a 20 point increase as well, but I do not have years to do it, and it seems like so many people see that big of an increase only after 1-2 years of studying. (diagnostic 150, trying to get to 170)

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Wednesday, Nov 04 2020

dianao6512815

Tutor for January

Hello,

I am currently looking for a tutor for my January LSAT. I had one for the October LSAT, who was great. I just want to try out new tutoring styles to see if one will click. I reached out a few from the list of tutors on 7sage, but only one responded, leading me to believe not all are currently active. If you have any suggestions of a good tutor (esp for an ESL student scoring in the 150’s), please comment below!

Thank you in advance!

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dianao6512815
Sunday, Oct 04 2020

Just took it. I had LR-RC-LG. LR and RC seemed normal difficulty, i also had the passage about neoclassical sculpting. LG were terrible. I honestly havent taken a LG section that difficult before. I typically have several minutes to review answers but I actually ran out of time on this one

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Saturday, Oct 03 2020

dianao6512815

lsat writing

I am taking the October Flex and I have a question about the LSAT writing. I took the LSAT last July, when it first became digital and cancelled my score after being able to see it. I have an LSAT writing on record on the lsac website from 7/15/19, which I am able to read. It also gives me an option to "launch lsat writing" for this October test....do I need to do a new lsat writing section or can the one I already have on file be used?

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Monday, Aug 03 2020

dianao6512815

Really need help for upcoming August LSAT!!!

I have been studying on and off for about a year and a half. My initial diagnostic was a 150. I recently graduated with a 3.91 as a Philosophy major and I worked while in school full time, so I studied for the LSAT when I had the time. I took the June 2019 test since we could cancel it after seeing out score, and I ended up cancelling (151). Initially, I wanted to go straight to law school from undergrad, but decided its best to take a year off and work and give myself a little extra time to study. I am registered for the August flex test, but I am really stressed and discouraged because my score isnt improving. The most recent flex practice tests I took were both 155. I really want to go to a T14, and every other component of my application is very strong. I am a URM, great personal and diversity statement, and a strong GPA. The LSAT is the only thing holding me back. Getting a 165 would make me a strong splitter, so that is my new goal (initially I was aiming for a 170).

I dont want to take another year off, but i really dont know how I can improve 10 points in less that 28 days while working full time as a paralegal. I want to apply as early as possible to improve my chances, so I am planning to send in my application mid to late September. I am contemplating also registering for the October LSAT and taking that if my August score is not good...but regardless, how can I improve 10 points when in a year and a half I barely improved 5? In my untimed sections I always feel confident about most of my answers, yet I still miss a good amount of them. It is very frustrating. I average -8 LR, -10 RC and -7 LG. English is also my second language and while that was never an issue in school, it seems to be a barrier here for some reason.

I started my studies off with 7sage a year ago, went through the CC but found that it didnt help me too much at the time. I then went through the Powerscore LR and LG books, which helped me build a stronger understanding of the basics, especially for LG. I drilled linear questions for LG, which helped as well. Since then, I have been doing timed and untimed practice tests(about 4 so far), but im not sure what else I can do to help isolate the main issue. I think improivng my LG will be the easiest, and RC the hardest. LR is what is tripping me up because I feel pretty confident when answering the questions, but obviously something isnt clicking. Through BR and looking back at the answers, I usually see where I went wrong with missing small details or inferences, but even if I understand that question, I continue to make similar mistakes on the next prep test. Essentially, I am looking for any advice at all for how some of you overcame a plateau, especially breaking into the 160s.

Sorry that this turned into a mini rant lol, I just feel very lost and discouraged and I really really want to go to a T14. Any help is REALLY appreciated.

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