@jerryjessica2003956 yeah that heckling comedian question had me stumped, even though i got it down to what will probably be the two most popular answers for that question.

Good luck to everyone!

Congrats! @kjsmith9141 Sorry but what does PT stand for?

@elaine760

When does this offer expire?

@7sagestudentservices

Is it still the case that the e-docs expire when account expires? Further, does access to the explanations that were purchased also expire?

In the same boat and would be interested in partnering, though I’m in the west coast.

@nataliersilver438 said:

Ok. Good to know. All of my campaigns were paid. Would you still only include post college?

All happened after I graduated. Further while I volunteered on several campaigns, none were consistent in the sense that I only volunteered on specific dates such as the week before election or when absentee ballots went out. Thus why I wouldn’t put on my resume except for the paid position.

We’re in similar boats. I was a paid campaign staffer for one election cycle but volunteer in others. All post college. Only putting my paid position.

@tomleary115 said:

@elias7291405 said:

@tomleary115 are you saying they were no more harder than other tests?

I’ve also done all 90+ games section and there have definitely been harder sections (PT B and C, for example) but the trend in recent years has been for pretty standard games without anything too difficult (minus the handful of misc games). Today felt like stuff from the 90s. That’s why I think folks, like myself, were really thrown off.

I'm saying this set of logic games from today is the hardest I've ever played and I've played all of them (though I don't think I've done PT B and C). I was just curious if anyone here actually had an easy time. I don't think I've ever seen a single LSAT section so heavily derided as this one.

@hannahjasicki898 said:

@tomleary115 said:

Did ANYONE reading this feel like the logic games section was normal? Obviously the people posting in this thread are more inclined to write about how hard it was, so I'm trying to get a better idea.

For my part, I've done all 87 preptests and I've maybe done one AR section that was anywhere near that hard.

Any thoughts on which PT had as difficult of an AR section? I'm not sure I've come across any

From a quick look at my notes, the AR sections from preptests 41 and 34 were quite challenging, though both of those were taken before my AR skills improved dramatically.

Ah got you. This wasn’t the most difficult, but it’s definetly up there. As I said a really difficult AR like this one hasn’t been seen in recent years. Thus why people were caught off guard.

@yuheliu183 said:

@kkblessing812 said:

@hannahjasicki898 said:

@tomleary115 said:

Did ANYONE reading this feel like the logic games section was normal? Obviously the people posting in this thread are more inclined to write about how hard it was, so I'm trying to get a better idea.

For my part, I've done all 87 preptests and I've maybe done one AR section that was anywhere near that hard.

Any thoughts on which PT had as difficult of an AR section? I'm not sure I've come across any

While I found the LG section incredibly difficult and echo what folks on here are saying, I believe there was a key inference that really opened up the flower game and made it more manageable than it appeared on the surface. But, yes, still brutal and it sucked up my time, leaving very little for the last game.

What is an AR?

Analytical Reasoning aka logic games.

@tomleary115 are you saying they were no more harder than other tests?

I’ve also done all 90+ games section and there have definitely been harder sections (PT B and C, for example) but the trend in recent years has been for pretty standard games without anything too difficult (minus the handful of misc games). Today felt like stuff from the 90s. That’s why I think folks, like myself, were really thrown off.

@buytrafficexpress251 said:

So the trick here was in the question stem - the arragement of artifacts wasn't a straight line, but a circle.

edit i meant stimulus

Agree. i also was tripped up by this question until i realized this.

welp! as others have noted, the LG was ridiculously hard. And unfortunately for me, it came as my second section. It practically demoralized me for RC, which also unfortunately for me, came as my last section. I felt the RC readings themselves were not hard, but because LG screwed me it was tough to concentrate. The LR was not bad.

I'd be surprised if 7sage, or anyone else, rates any of the games as 1-star. They went old-school for these games. LG is consistently my strongest section, but not today.

Good luck to everyone!

I try to visualize in my mind what i'm reading. This is especially helpful for me in RC when I read a passage with unfamiliar subject matter. The Eileen Gray is a good example of me visualizing the work that she did (PT 79, #2).

generally yes. This is a function of older exams that had 2 questions for 1 stimulus. This is no longer the case (though nothing prevents LSAC from bringing this back). I'd say for this particular question we can ignore the opponents argument. I believe there are a handful of questions where it was necessary to read both speakers even if the question asked about one in particular. But that is not common.

Our default mode should not be to contradict premises. It is incredibly rare for a right answer choice to "attack the premise". And there's debate even among those handful of questions where this has occurred whether the AC is really contradicting one of the premises.

PT53, S1, #8 is an example.

@alan-91620

Are you able to delete practice sets you create? I was playing around with it just to get a feel and now I can't seem to delete these sets.

Where are you located in LA?

Had the same setup as @vanikadesign674 and can vouch for those LR questions she mentioned.

Congrats to those who did well! I’ll be retaking in Sep!