Hey 7Sagers,
Here's the official July 2019 LSAT Discussion Thread.
**Please keep all discussions of the July 2019 LSAT here!**(/red)
Rules:
✅ You can identify experimental sections. 🙆♀️
You can say things such as the following:
“I had two LGs! Was the LG with "flowers" real or experimental?” “I had two RCs! Was the section that starts with the honeybee passage real?”“I had three LRs! Does anyone know if the first LR section with the goose question is real?” ❌ You can't discuss specific questions. 🙅♂️
You CANNOT say things such as the following:
“Hey, the 3rd LG was sequencing and the last one was In/Out, right?” (Don't mention the game type)“The last question in the first LR section was a lawgic heavy MBT! Was the answer (B)?” (Don't mention the question type or ask what the answer was)“What was the answer for the last question of RC? I think it was an inference question? Was the answer (C)?” (Don't mention the question type or ask what the answer was)Have fun discussing!
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I know we are all stressing about the "which LR section was experimental" issue, but also quick shout-out to JY's strategy of answering questions after reading Passage A of the comparative RC passage. Everyone on Reddit is complaining about how hard the passage was--and it was a really hard section--but using the elimination method reduced answer choices to 1-2 possibilities before I even read Passage B (with the exception of two questions that were passage B dependent). The strategy helped a ton!
This wait is KILLING me.
@yxh425310 said:
Folks who took the test: If you were gonna retake it/ could go back in time, what do you wish you had studied/brushed up on before hand?
I think this is a great question! I would maybe post it in a new discussion since I think a lot of people could benefit from it.
Things that really helped me:
• Knowing your logical indicators and existential quantifiers was very helpful for moving through the LR passages.
• I didn't complete the fool-proofing process that is favored by most 7-sagers, but I did do a lot of prep and got my LGs down to -0/-1 or so with a few minutes to spare. That was huge because I a) was confident when my first section was LG and b) had time at the end to double-back and look over a game that I thought was suspiciously easy (it was).
• For RC: I didn't do most of the Common Core RC work. (I plan on doing it soon--I did the rest of the Common Core classes). I just blind reviewed the hell out of them, and it was very useful. One strategy that I actually found most useful for prepping my RC was having my partner read the RC sections to me out loud during blind review while I did the dishes and made dinner, and then she would ask me the questions and we would work through it together. It got me from -6ish to -1/-2ish by the time the latest test rolled around. You need someone to do this with of course, but it was very helpful. Plus having someone to talk about the passages with lends itself to the whole "oh these are actually interesting!" strategy which is a good mental attitude with which to approach the exam.
• For RC: the comparative passage was a beast, but it was made infinitely easier by eliminating answer choices after reading just Passage A. Most of the questions were significantly easier with just one or two choices.
• Preparing for every possible testing situation: a lot of folks commenting had nightmare test situations: tablets freezing, weather, et cetera. I didn't have it that bad, but my test center was sucky (see my review of Drexel). Practice using an exceptionally small working area (tiny desk, for example). Practice only being allowed to hold your tablet at a 30 degree angle. Practice having a fire alarm break up the middle of one of your sections. If you can fight through those, you're going to be golden on test day.
• Being able to bring coffee into the test center now is a huge plus. As a coffee drinker/non-morning person, the 12:30 start time and coffee break was a game changer. Probably worth 10 points for me right there. Play the test to your strengths. If you're a morning person, take the September 8:30am test.
Things I wish I could go back and work on some more:
• Having a strategy about "moving on" from a question was helpful, but implementing it was hard. It's easy on a practice test to say "just skip the question, you can come back for it later" but on the real test your brain is screaming "NO THOSE ARE POINTS DON'T DO IT! WASTE FIVE MINUTES ON THIS PARALLEL FLAW EXCEPT QUESTION!
• More layers. I had jeans and a jacket on and was frozen solid by the time I left. The room was unbearably cold because, again, Drexel is the worst testing center in Philly.
I’m hearing that tests were never administered because the tablets weren’t connecting to the LSAC network properly. This happened in Tampa at at least two test sites. Students waiting around until 3pm and then getting sent away.
So not only do we have to pay $200 to take a test full of made up bullshit because they want to gate keep so damn bad, they can’t even employ best practices when it comes to enterprising a new network. As a cyber professional, this both infuriates and tickles me. Way to go, LSAC! Your arrogance couldn’t save you this time.
Good morning and good luck everyone. Looking forward to checking in later.
@mikenoel178 said:
For those who took the digital lsat, would you say that there were any noticeable differences from the digital test beta here on 7sage? Just super nervous about my September lsat😭 Thank you!!
I was actually pleasantly surprised at how well the beta version matched the real digital format! The LSAC gave out a scratch book, on the back of which had cheat sheet instructions on how to use the system. They also give a 5 minute mini-tutorial before the exam starts. If you’ve been using beta, it’ll feel almost the exact same.
The one thing I noticed that the beta DOESNT have which the real test DOES is if a questions asks about a particular phrase or line in the passage, it highlights the phrase as to make finding it a 2 second task! Great feature that helped me save time.
Just dropping by to wish everyone the best! Remember you are NOT your score, and how you feel about how you did is NOT always accurate. The test is over and take some well earned relaxation time!!
LR LG LR LR RC. First LR was very difficult. Thought RC was also harder than usual. I expected them to go a little easier on RC since it’s everyones first time with the Digital format.
I had three LR sections. The real reading comp and LG sectionsare:
LG: technicians to patients, Tuesday/Wednesday robots showing
RC: Pei and Louvre, History and General Laws, Disclosure Requirements, and Nutrition and Cancer.
Hope that helps! For LR I had two sections with 25 Qs and one with 26, and found the 26 one the hardest and the other two relatively easy.
Just remember that you've been preparing for this. There will be no surprises for you. You know what to expect.
LR(26) LG LR(25) LR (25) RC
I took the test via paper. I had three LR's but I didn't have a fish question @taylornjoneslaw311
Btw guys... I'm done! This was it! 9 point jump from my last test! I can't freaking believe it.
In the immortal words of Chevy Chase: "Hallelujah! Holy Sh*t! Where's the tylenol..."
Will share my application experience later, but for now.. I'mma go spend a nice dinner with family and get ice cream.
@jonahgriego643 said:
This wait is KILLING me.
Me too. Me. too.
I want it over with. Even if it sucked. Let me move on from it.
Reddit and Powerscore users are hypothesizing that LSAC sprinkled experimental questions all throughout the three LR sections. This seems plausible if you assume that LSAC will re-use the same test for the test takers that had technical issues with the tablets and couldn't take the test on Monday. If they do re use the same test then it's absolutely plausible since they wouldn't want people knowing which section is the experimental.
Just dropping by to wish everyone the best! Remember you are NOT your score, and how you feel about how you did is NOT always accurate. The test is over and take some well earned relaxation time!!
I’m going to post this because I’ve seen 3 different answers so far. LR (26) LG LR (25) LR (25) RC
For those with only two LR’s - did either have 26 questions?
First time taking the LSAT; my center got the paper version. I had LR/LG/LR/LR/RC. I thought the third LR section was the most difficult so I'm hoping that it was experimental. Otherwise, I found the exam to be pretty straightforward? At this point I either did very well or very poorly.
@lizhuoyuan16740 said:
3 LR sections. Is the one LR section talking about galaxy and planets real?
i had this question, cant remember if 3 or 4th section, I had LRLGLRLRRC, section 1 was tough.
Our tablets worked very well! In fact, I preferred it to the paper test. However, one of the proctors accidentally started the LG section too early so we lost 15-20 seconds... The few last seconds I needed to do my very last question!
I thought the RC section was more difficult than others I've practiced... maybe just me.
3 LR sections. Is the one LR section talking about galaxy and planets real?
@luisperla89320 congratulations! That is an AMAZING outcome and is no doubt a product of many hours of hard work and determination. Enjoy some well earned time off!
Hello! Did anyone here NOT have the question about ozone emissions (organic compounds); it was a resolve reconcile question. Please let me know!
@christinagomez7738165 said:
Wait I saw someone said we are allowed to bring in coffee to the lsat now. Is this true ?? I thought we couldn’t have beverages other than what can fit in our bag ??
As long as it’s not a glass or metal container and is less than 20 fluid ounces you can bring it in. I bought a chocolate milk drink from a convenience store, emptied it and filled it with iced coffee. I would not bring hot coffee in a typical coffee cup. You have to leave it in your bag. The coffee was a lifesaver for me this time around. However, I then didn’t have water and the water fountain at my test center was broken, so just be ready for stuff like that. But having coffee kick in during section 4 was a lifesaver!
@arman6592 said:
Reddit and Powerscore users are hypothesizing that LSAC sprinkled experimental questions all throughout the three LR sections. This seems plausible if you assume that LSAC will re-use the same test for the test takers that had technical issues with the tablets and couldn't take the test on Monday. If they do re use the same test then it's absolutely plausible since they wouldn't want people knowing which section is the experimental.
Hopefully they sprinkled most of them in the section with 26 questions. (;