Hey 7Sagers,
Here's the official July 2019 LSAT Discussion Thread.
**Please keep all discussions of the July 2019 LSAT here!**(/red)
Rules:
✅ You can identify experimental sections. 🙆♀️
You can say things such as the following:
“I had two LGs! Was the LG with "flowers" real or experimental?” “I had two RCs! Was the section that starts with the honeybee passage real?”“I had three LRs! Does anyone know if the first LR section with the goose question is real?” ❌ You can't discuss specific questions. 🙅♂️
You CANNOT say things such as the following:
“Hey, the 3rd LG was sequencing and the last one was In/Out, right?” (Don't mention the game type)“The last question in the first LR section was a lawgic heavy MBT! Was the answer (B)?” (Don't mention the question type or ask what the answer was)“What was the answer for the last question of RC? I think it was an inference question? Was the answer (C)?” (Don't mention the question type or ask what the answer was)Have fun discussing!
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@katecahalane279 said:
I scored about 10-13 points lower than I had been PTing — I felt like I bombed RC but I don’t think I messed anything else up that majorly. I’m tempted to have my test hand scored but wondering if other think I should just accept that maybe I messed up and retake for free? I knew I wasn’t as prepared as I could have been and I approached it as practice given the option to retake for free - but I wasn’t expecting such a low score. Thoughts?
If you scored well under PT, totally retake. As I understand it, hand scoring rarely changes the outcome, and if it does, it's by a point or two.
We have bad days. It happens. That RC was pretty brutal. Some people have said the comparative passage was in the top 4 hardest ever seen. The games were misleading. They seemed simple enough, but sucked time. The LR was.. well.. totally insane for that one section,and at least one other was pretty difficult.
However.. if you are off by large margins, I don't think it could have just been the RC unless you missed like every question. Keep studying LG and LR as well. I found certain tactics for RC worked for LR and vice versa, and something just clicked this time around. Took a year and a half or so, but it finally happened.
Absolutely, dust yourself off and get back up. It's hard. It's sooo hard to do it and do this stupid test again. I know; I've done it and was prepared to do it again, and thank my lucky stars, I'm done this time (although part of me says "1 more point would look even better..."). Focus on your goal, why you are doing this, and keep going.
You've got this. This is just a momentary set back and you get a freebie. Use it to your advantage. I'm betting there will be a ton of cancellations from this testing, and I have read similar stories to yours on Reddit (scoring way below PT).
I scored about 10-13 points lower than I had been PTing — I felt like I bombed RC but I don’t think I messed anything else up that majorly. I’m tempted to have my test hand scored but wondering if other think I should just accept that maybe I messed up and retake for free? I knew I wasn’t as prepared as I could have been and I approached it as practice given the option to retake for free - but I wasn’t expecting such a low score. Thoughts?
@luisperla89320 congratulations! That is an AMAZING outcome and is no doubt a product of many hours of hard work and determination. Enjoy some well earned time off!
Btw guys... I'm done! This was it! 9 point jump from my last test! I can't freaking believe it.
In the immortal words of Chevy Chase: "Hallelujah! Holy Sh*t! Where's the tylenol..."
Will share my application experience later, but for now.. I'mma go spend a nice dinner with family and get ice cream.
@taylornjoneslaw311 said:
What kind of pen and scratch paper did you guys receive to do LG?
The stylus I had was a pen with a little rubber nub on the end. So, the stylus was the pen. Which was kinda nice. It's a basic ball point pen. Wrote smoothly and opened/closed with a twist.
At the very beginning, you are given a booklet. It's the same size and looks just like the one they give you when they hand you the paper test. Only, it's just paper inside. You are given this from the very beginning until they collect everything at the end, so you can use it during any section you want: LR, RC or LG. It has a ton of pages (10+?) inside. I think I may have gotten to 2 or 3 of them, because it's blank front and back.
What kind of pen and scratch paper did you guys receive to do LG?
@jonahgriego643 Shhh... Don't let on that you know they're watching. Just start talking about the thousands of puppies you have saved from house fires and all the other heroic deeds you do :wink:
August 21 is not the big day. Someone must have read my comment about waiting lol!
@jonahgriego643 said:
This wait is KILLING me.
Me too. Me. too.
I want it over with. Even if it sucked. Let me move on from it.
This wait is KILLING me.
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We wont know until/unless they say something. We may never know.
@schlosszoe421-4, I don't think so, but I haven't heard.
will there be a different curve for the digital versus paper?
Hello! Did anyone here NOT have the question about ozone emissions (organic compounds); it was a resolve reconcile question. Please let me know!
@luisperla89320 said:
@mikenoel178 said:
For those who took the digital lsat, would you say that there were any noticeable differences from the digital test beta here on 7sage? Just super nervous about my September lsat😭 Thank you!!
I was actually pleasantly surprised at how well the beta version matched the real digital format! The LSAC gave out a scratch book, on the back of which had cheat sheet instructions on how to use the system. They also give a 5 minute mini-tutorial before the exam starts. If you’ve been using beta, it’ll feel almost the exact same.
The one thing I noticed that the beta DOESNT have which the real test DOES is if a questions asks about a particular phrase or line in the passage, it highlights the phrase as to make finding it a 2 second task! Great feature that helped me save time.
@luisperla89320 Wow, this helped alot! Thank you for your comment! I hope you did well on this lsat!^^
@christinagomez7738165 said:
Wait I saw someone said we are allowed to bring in coffee to the lsat now. Is this true ?? I thought we couldn’t have beverages other than what can fit in our bag ??
As long as it’s not a glass or metal container and is less than 20 fluid ounces you can bring it in. I bought a chocolate milk drink from a convenience store, emptied it and filled it with iced coffee. I would not bring hot coffee in a typical coffee cup. You have to leave it in your bag. The coffee was a lifesaver for me this time around. However, I then didn’t have water and the water fountain at my test center was broken, so just be ready for stuff like that. But having coffee kick in during section 4 was a lifesaver!
Anyone else not given a stylus pen? I submitted a complaint since it really did throw off my rhythm to have to poke at the screen repeatedly with my sweaty fingers. If anyone else had that issue, please let LSAC know.
@cejatu510 said:
can someone guess on the curve???
Powerscore is saying -12
@cejatu510 said:
can someone guess on the curve???
RC was difficult but the rest of the test was pretty reasonable so my guess is, it will be the same as the last 5 tests, a point here or there. I don't think the curve will be massive like say the Feb 97 test, which I think was hardest test and the curve shows that it was pretty difficult.
can someone guess on the curve???
@christinagomez7738165 said:
Wait I saw someone said we are allowed to bring in coffee to the lsat now. Is this true ?? I thought we couldn’t have beverages other than what can fit in our bag ??
Why couldn't that beverage in your bag be coffee? My beverage in my bag is coconut water.
Wait I saw someone said we are allowed to bring in coffee to the lsat now. Is this true ?? I thought we couldn’t have beverages other than what can fit in our bag ??
Any "official" word on whether the experimental LR was dispersed throughout the 3 sections?
@yxh425310 said:
Folks who took the test: If you were gonna retake it/ could go back in time, what do you wish you had studied/brushed up on before hand?
I think this is a great question! I would maybe post it in a new discussion since I think a lot of people could benefit from it.
Things that really helped me:
• Knowing your logical indicators and existential quantifiers was very helpful for moving through the LR passages.
• I didn't complete the fool-proofing process that is favored by most 7-sagers, but I did do a lot of prep and got my LGs down to -0/-1 or so with a few minutes to spare. That was huge because I a) was confident when my first section was LG and b) had time at the end to double-back and look over a game that I thought was suspiciously easy (it was).
• For RC: I didn't do most of the Common Core RC work. (I plan on doing it soon--I did the rest of the Common Core classes). I just blind reviewed the hell out of them, and it was very useful. One strategy that I actually found most useful for prepping my RC was having my partner read the RC sections to me out loud during blind review while I did the dishes and made dinner, and then she would ask me the questions and we would work through it together. It got me from -6ish to -1/-2ish by the time the latest test rolled around. You need someone to do this with of course, but it was very helpful. Plus having someone to talk about the passages with lends itself to the whole "oh these are actually interesting!" strategy which is a good mental attitude with which to approach the exam.
• For RC: the comparative passage was a beast, but it was made infinitely easier by eliminating answer choices after reading just Passage A. Most of the questions were significantly easier with just one or two choices.
• Preparing for every possible testing situation: a lot of folks commenting had nightmare test situations: tablets freezing, weather, et cetera. I didn't have it that bad, but my test center was sucky (see my review of Drexel). Practice using an exceptionally small working area (tiny desk, for example). Practice only being allowed to hold your tablet at a 30 degree angle. Practice having a fire alarm break up the middle of one of your sections. If you can fight through those, you're going to be golden on test day.
• Being able to bring coffee into the test center now is a huge plus. As a coffee drinker/non-morning person, the 12:30 start time and coffee break was a game changer. Probably worth 10 points for me right there. Play the test to your strengths. If you're a morning person, take the September 8:30am test.
Things I wish I could go back and work on some more:
• Having a strategy about "moving on" from a question was helpful, but implementing it was hard. It's easy on a practice test to say "just skip the question, you can come back for it later" but on the real test your brain is screaming "NO THOSE ARE POINTS DON'T DO IT! WASTE FIVE MINUTES ON THIS PARALLEL FLAW EXCEPT QUESTION!
• More layers. I had jeans and a jacket on and was frozen solid by the time I left. The room was unbearably cold because, again, Drexel is the worst testing center in Philly.