you don't want to take the bait man.

Thanks for that analysis @.gill.sanford! I think that makes a lot of sense. Do you think it's true that you can "get by" with the older PTs with less stringent logic, and that's why the newer ones feel harder? Excited to review with you!!

@.dp3 I felt that way too, I just couldn't make sense of what some of the stimuli/answer choices were saying. Sometimes I would be looking for one type of answer, but none of the ACs had what I was looking for, and I missed something subtle. I think some tests will click with you and some don't. But yeah I don't think we should read too much into it. Just do your best to understand review the right and wrong reasoning for the ACs, and keep in mind things that can trip you up so you'll be better prepared for next time!

Just curious, by school do you mean undergrad or a master's? That's a lot on your plate! I think full-time work and LSAT is one thing and can be managed, but going to school and taking on the LSAT seems difficult to handle. I personally would have hard time knowing how to prioritize my time, but maybe that's just me.

Echoing what @.hopkins said, it's not beneficial to use PT material when you haven't finished the curriculum. The LSAT is a skills-based test, so it's about identifying and strengthening the right skills and forming them into habits. This also means identifying and destroying bad habits. First and foremost you must know the fundamentals. Or else you're taking PTs blind and using up precious material. There is still plenty of value you can gain from retakes though, so don't worry about that.

Of course we all want to score at a certain level, but wishful thinking isn't going to get us there. The LSAT demands hard work and constant self-examination. There's no point in worrying about where you're scoring at. Just keep focusing on learning the material, and time and persistence will pay off.

I thought PT 75 was really hard. I did much worse on the LR sections than usual. I'm still trying to figure out why exactly... I think the wording of the questions and the answer choices were hard for me to process. So I'm going over it again and again!

Great explanation. I missed the subtle assumption in C and took the bait in D. When we are strengthening an argument, we are trying to strengthen the relationship between the premises and conclusion. I knew that there was a gap in comparing comet orbits to planet orbits, but D tricked me into strengthening the premise, not the relationship.

C is a weak strengthening answer, but it's necessary in comparing the relationship between comet orbits that have been thrown into oval orbits by planets and oval planet orbits. There must be more than one planet for the same mechanism to occur.

In addition, is it better to warm-up right before you get into the test center? Or is warming up at some point before you leave your house good enough? Dunno if it matters, but in case it does...

I feel nervous but also excited! I've been studying for over a year, so I know what you mean. I also took it before, and the nerves really messed me up the first time.

In addition to taking PTs and thorough, thorough BR... honestly, I think the best thing I'm doing is rest and breaks from the LSAT. I just forget about it for periods of times, and I come back to it and I feel refreshed and confident.

I do meditate, which helps my concentration. And I've been running about 5 miles a few times a week, and this helps tremendously!! It knocks me out so that the nerves don't mess up my sleep. I have never been a runner, so the LSAT has motivated me to do so many things!!

Also, I've been training myself to turn my nerves into excitement. I get really excited to solve all of the questions on the test and read those SUPER INTERESTING RC passages.

Got a lot of these ideas from http://classic.7sage.com/five-strategies-for-combating-lsat-anxiety/

You can do this!!

Hey @, I feel your pain! RC has been a struggle for me.

Are you consistently focusing on reading for structure and have you tried the memory method? How are your BR scores for RC? If you find your BR scores are high, then you're probably understanding the material well and what the questions are asking of you, but having difficulty executing it under time pressure. Here are a few things that have helped me (still working on execution!)

1) Read for structure and think about what the author is trying to persuade you overall, and how each part of the passage plays a role in the author's argument.

2) Unless you have a phenomenal memory, there's no way you can remember all the details during a short amount of time, so you just want to get a good enough understanding of the main points of each paragraph. Be confident! The questions try to trick you into thinking you read something that you didn't, but trust yourself! If the questions ask about specific details, go quickly to where you remembered it was mentioned.

3) Really engage yourself with the passage. The time pressure makes you want to rush, but stay focused and piece together sentence and paragraph.

4) During your review, just like LR, reason why the right AC is right and why the wrong ones are incorrect.

So much congrats!!!!

Sweeeeeeet :D

hey @ ! yeah i live in seattle. i'm PM you :) i am taking the December test, but we can see if we have any mutual PT plans in the near future!

@ i'll be there for B!

So misleading!! Most of the argument focuses on Riley, so it baits you into thinking that the flaw is just because Riley has issues with the president, doesn't mean that her claims are still true. But the conclusion subtly claims that the speech was not inappropriate unless there are other reasons to characterize it as inflammatory.

Inflammatory and inappropriate are different ideas. The speech could still be inappropriate whether or not it is inflammatory. So even if there are reasons (other than Riley's) that the speech is inflammatory, it could still be inappropriate.

@ I like that! It's a light at the end of a long dark tunnel of PT, BR, & repeat as necessary... and constantly troubleshooting what is going wrong during real time.

If you don't distribute the "not," can you also justify C because J cannot lead to both FP and -FP?

Happy Veterans Day!! Thank you all so much.

Wow congratulations!!!!

Hey, I totally feel you. I had a really bad anxiety attack the first time I took it in June. I completely froze for a good 5 minutes and then I let that ruin everything. My head was cloudy the entire time I took it. But this time in December was so much better, had pretty good mental clarity throughout the entire test.

Definitely self-care and rest throughout your prep, healthy eating and EXERCISE. Also, do what you love and hang out with friends :) It will remind you that the world is so much bigger than the LSAT. It's ironic that focusing SO much on your goal can actually do the opposite and harm your performance.

It's great to have a goal of a high score, but really discipline yourself to focus on the skills that you're building and forget about the score. It's an active discipline, honestly, because we put so much pressure on ourselves to attain that goal. And that will manifest subconsciously as nerves. But it's the process that matters :)

@ haha i think interviewee is indeed a word! yeah i saw that on TLS... hope it is that! sounds more relaxed i guess??

@ i didn't even think about that.... they all said waiting is the hardest part, and now i understand. but at least there is more certainty???

omg. my heart.

@ yeah I tried chamomile tea + honey yesterday before bed and it may have helped! Slept soundly yesterday. But I had to wear myself out a lot during the day too.

Thank you so much. This is so encouraging :)

Exercise!!! Go for a run or go to the gym. That has worked so well at knocking me out at night. Also drinking tea helps me a lot. Chamomile or bedtime tea.

And in general, don't be afraid to get your mind off of the LSAT! Hang out with friends, go to a museum, go watch a movie, etc. Whatever makes you happy and not stressed out!