It would be nice to hear how JY would approach a question like #16 where you're forced to scan the entire passage for a few lines. Other than having a photographic memory, what else can you do to answer this question in under a minute? This RC section was particularly brutal.

Law school isn't going anywhere, so unless you have a personal reason why you absolutely need to attend law school as soon as possible, I'd suggest you take your time, retake, and get a solid score.

You have to be gifted to be able to dissect this argument and identify the right answer in less than 2mins and under pressure.

Don't take too many PTs, you don't want to run out of practice tests, that can be a significant problem. Also, take the LSAT when you're ready and scoring above, at, or near your target score. The LSAT isn't going anywhere. Be patient and apply yourself to understanding and dominating the material.

Don't dwell on it too much, happens all the time. Some ppl talk a lot about studying together and joining you on a journey to reach a high LSAT score and when you text/call them to start organizing study sessions, they respond a few times and then you never hear back from them. Forget about them and focus on your own journey and study plan.

Do well on the LSAT (165 and above) and you've got a decent shot at a school in the 25 to 50 rank. Now, another option would be to improve your softs: work for a year or two, volunteer for an extended period, intern/clerk in a law related position, work on a political campaign, etc. Then write a great personal statement, get some letters of recommendation, and maybe take a course or two in a law related program. Then do well on the LSAT (165 and above) and perhaps you can break into the Top 25.

Question 17 hinges on your understanding of the definition of "investing." If you don't know the secondary definition of that word, they hurt you. So unfair

The problem with JY's economical approach to questions is that is assumes that you're correctly answering 75-90% of all the other questions that aren't curve breakers. Considering RC is by far the most difficult of the sections to improve upon, it's unfeasible to assume that you can guess on 3 or 4 questions and that won't hurt your RC score significantly. What if you missed 5 questions on 3 of the passages, and on passage 4 you miss another 2 questions and you decide to guess on two curvebreaker questions. Now, you're looking at -8 or -9 on the RC, which is disastrous.

There's a significant jump in the logic that I feel that answer B fails to address. The conclusion addresses assessing a discipline's scientific value based on its shady origin. What does that mean? Presumably, it means that a discipline is not taken serious or considered a true science if it had weird origins. So how does the fact that alchemy is different than modern chemistry help us determine whether chemistry is a serious or true science? It doesn't.

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This isn't scientific or exact, but as an older person studying for the LSAT, I would like to share my own experience. I started studying for the LSAT around the age of 30 full time (4-6hrs per day x 4 days a week) and after about year I didn't feel ready so I put it off and went back to work. During the 2 years that I worked, I studied part time (1-3hrs per day x 3 days a week) and at the end of those 2 years I didn't feel ready so I went back to studying full time. To make a long story short, during the next 4 years, I repeated the same study schedule and I finally took the LSAT two months ago in June. In summary, I studied a total of 4yrs full time (2yrs, worked, then another 2yrs) and I studied part time for about 3 years.

I scored a high 150s on the LSAT but never broke the 160s as was my goal. During my time studying, I took a 7sage class, hired a Testmasters tutor, and also hired a 7sage tutor. I took about 12 full PTs, completed the 7sage course, and drilled old passages, games, and questions endlessly. I definitely think my age and time away from undergrad affected my LSAT mastery. I don't have any other explanation since I personally feel that I did more than enough work and practice to warrant a higher score. I tend to believe that if you put in the work and effort, you'll get to your goal, and that just didn't happen in my case. So, I don't want to discourage you from going all in on the LSAT, but other factors outside of studying affected my comprehension on this test. Kind of sucks.

Focus on timing, being able to identify parts of an argument, and eliminating wrong answers. Being able to put all these skills together and applying them efficiently is how you start to master LR.

I do about 5 hrs a day (3hrs of LR or LG + 2hrs of RC), 5 days a week. That's been my study schedule for the last 14 months and it's worked out fine. No burnout yet. In the short term, I think you can get away with studying 6 days a week, but if you plan on studying long term (4 months or more), 5 days would be better.

Hey,

Don't be so hard on yourself. The LSAT is extremely difficult and the writers make it so in order to weed out the strong from the weak. You have to keep at it. Don't get discouraged. I've been studying full time since late 2018 and I'm still not where I want to be. I want to be able to score in the 170s and I'm still not there, but I keep going because this is just a minor hurdle. Once you become an attorney, you'll look back and remember how difficult it was and how you persevered, and you'll be glad you didn't let a minor setback take you down.

It took me about a year to get through the curriculum, it's not a quick thing or simple, so be prepared to spend another half year on it, especially if you want to master all the basics, which you should do. As for PTs, I would recommend that you put them off until you've finished the curriculum and feel like you've got the basics down cold. That's what I've done: I have yet to take a PT; I haven't even taken the diagnostic PT. Focus on the basics first.

On LG, I would recommend that you purchase one of the Cambridge game bundles and you do every game in that book at least 10-15 times (after you complete the 7sage curriculum). I've done most of the games in my book a total of 20 - 25 times. I've done them so many times that it's like second nature for me. I know exactly how to tackle the games and the inferences just come naturally for me (could be that I just memorized them). Do a set of about 7 games per day, on the days you do LG, and don't forget to BR them as well as jot down how long it took you to do a game and your score. The next time you tackle LG, do another different set of 7 games, BR them, and time/score them as well. Next time do another 7, BR, and time/score them. Keep doing that for a month or until you get through the entire book and then after about a month come back and do the first set of 7 games you did and see if you improve. Do the same for the following set of 7 and on and on and on. In no time, you'll start seeing results. It's time consuming and demanding and a little bit daunting without a doubt, but I promise, you'll see results because I have.

Let me know if you have any questions. Don't get discouraged! You got this!

I'm sad to see it go too. It was my strongest section throughout my prep and at times could be fun, compared to the other sections. Goodbye LG, we'll never forget you.

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@ HMU. I'm here for all my 7Saging superiors. @ knows WHERE IT'S AT. @ ALL THE WAY BABYY

Thank you man, really appreciate it.

I have a couple of questions, but the first one is you mention that you reached 170s in a month, where were you before tutoring? Were you high or mid 160s? Or lower?

Also, how often did you meet with your tutor?

I haven't taken any PTs because I've been perfecting my method for RC, LG, and LR (doing nothing but problems and problem sets) but I feel like if I took a PT right now, I'd probably score in the low 160s.

So, if I hired a tutor, how often should I meet with him to start? Do they work on your method and then they leave you to work on that method until you hire them for another session or does a tutor supervise your development every step of the way?

I've got a lot more questions but I don't want to overwhelm you. Sorry if I did bro.

Thanks for sharing your experience

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@ I realized I glossed that question initially sorry fam. And my tutor mainly taught me how to cross off wrong answers. We do the whole stem-stim-AC process and practice skimming the AC's real quick in like 8-10 seconds and crossing off the bad ACs. I'm left with 2 AC's on the 1-4 star Q's usually. Then I just depend on straight up gut power. I compare them, click an AC, and move on as quick as possible. But I'm in a rut right now NGL. I went 174, 163, 168 the past two weeks. LSAT can smd.

Hey man, I'm saving up for a tutor right now, do you mind if I message you a couple of questions? I'm interested in your path to a 170 with a tutor.

Thanks

175 on the LSAT and get admitted to the University of Notre Dame and the University of Wisconsin!!!!!!!

Law school isn't going anywhere: do well in college, get a high GPA, find what you want to pursue as a career, have a great college experience. After you graduate, get some experience in the legal field and then start studying for the LSAT. Whether it takes you a year or three years after college, you'll be better equipped with a high GPA, experience, and hopefully a high LSAT score.

In the moment, I didn't even think about the second definition of investing (use) since we're talking about businesses. Frustrating.

I spent way too much time on this question. I think I got distracted by the idea of "toothless beaks and weak jaw muscles" and felt that this is somehow relevant.

I clerked for the Los Angeles' DA Office simply by contacting them and asking them if I could volunteer b4 going to law school. Luckily, they have a community volunteer opportunity where you literally shadow DA's in their day to day jobs and do a variety of tasks that are non-law related and law related.

Also, community legal clinics, workshops, and law fairs hosted by pro-bono legal organizations always need volunteers to help out. I've been volunteering as a legal translator for a pro-bono legal organization for a few years now. Just look up what you're interested in in your local area and I'm sure they have opportunities. And if they don't, it doesn't hurt to ask. All the best.

Retake. If you're not an older prospective law school applicant and/or don't have responsibilities that may prevent you from attending altogether, take another 8 months to a year to study, law school isn't going anywhere. The most important thing is that you attend a really good school with $. With a 3.9GPA, all you really need is a 160 to get into most schools outside the T21 and perhaps another 5 months with the help of a tutor can get you to your goal.

One of my frustrations at the moment is that I've been studying for more than a year and I've dedicated a lot of hours to LG and if I don't do well on LG or on the entire PT itself, all that work and time dedicated to that section goes down the drain. I'll definitely retake but all that I invested on LG will be for nothing if I don't do well on June 8th. Wish you could choose which sections you take.

I almost chose B, but at the last moment I realized my mistake and chose C. When you're going through the section, the pace and urgency to answer and move on to make sure you try to answer as many as possible really hurts you on crafty questions like this one.

Tough passages. I hope the June LSAT isn't as tough as the last two passages of this section.