Help!! A friend and I submitted our apps for a number of t14's almost simultaneously (on the deadline days of Feb. 1, Feb. 15, etc.), sometimes within minutes or hours of each other. She has heard back from some of these schools (and I believe most were rejections, though I'm not 100% certain), but I have not yet heard from those same schools. I have also heard back from a number of t14's (these were rejections) that we both applied to, but she has not. What does this all mean? I know I am driving myself crazy trying to understand this seemingly incomprehensible process, but am wondering if anyone out there might have some insight.
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I mapped out the argument structure like this:
Premise: /P some B (there's some imperceptible material objects about which we have beliefs)
Conclusion: P –> /B (perception cannot be .... to have beliefs about that object)
I got the question correct but I'm just wondering, what do we call this type of flaw? Obviously, it's not valid. But is the type the flaw in the stimulus' argument that it mistakes a "some" quantifier relationship (/P some B) for an "all" conditional relationship (B→/P)? Or is it that it uses circular reasoning?
I had a similar thing happen to me. The place where I took my first LSAT was at a local college where I've done all my prep work and felt very comfortable (cue with warm and fuzzies) but then the universe decided it would be amusing to throw in a monkey wrench and NOT make that test center available for the upcoming June take, for which I am registered. So I desperately searched and searched online to get more info about my other options (not much there), and I eventually settled on UDM law school in Detroit (about an hour's drive away for me). I called every possible administrator in the test centers until I got the info I was looking for. Although this location is totally unfamiliar to me, and Detroit isn't exactly an inspiring locale, I did find peace in my selection after making the trip there to scope out the rooms and speak with administrators (who I've shamelessly spammed with phone calls) who've been proctoring the test for ages.
For that reason, I'd advise against traveling far (anything necessitating air travel) for an alternate test location--because it'll be that much more difficult for you to go scope it out in person. Also, traveling for your test could exposes you to a number of risks (though improbable) outside of your control that could very be to your detriment (like getting sick--planes can be viral cesspools, delayed/canceled flights, lost/stolen luggage, bad accommodations leading to poor rest, etc.)--all of that is not worth the risk in my opinion.
So I guess the moral of the story for me is this: if you can't be at your ideal test location, then the next best thing is to pick a center [within driving distance] only after doing your due diligence and it should DEFINITELY be a place that you've personally traveled to and scoped out for this very purpose. This will give you a level of familiarity with your test center on test day, and that should hopefully translate into some degree of confidence. :) Hope this helps.
JY, as someone who studied econ for years and years, your discussion of Kahnemann's research on endowment effect/loss aversion (especially the bit about the mug) made my day!! Thanks for the explanation.
@ I have this same problem, notably with games and reading comp. Although I absolutely hate going out of order, someone very recently suggested taking a quick glance at all the games first, and trying to do all the simpler format ones first (eg straight forward sequencing) and saving the more time consuming ones (eg double layer sequencing or hybrid games) for the end. I'm going to try this out tonight on my next PT to see if it actually makes a difference.
Sorry, just saw the game explanation videos were already posted
@ what about the games from PT 79? this test had a particularly tricky game... did you already put a video explanation out for this one?
A quick and dirty (though not foolproof) way of doing this is by looking for key structural indicators in the stimulus (e.g. thus, therefore, so, hence, it follows that, establishes that, etc.) which point to the introduction of the argument's conclusion. The reason I say this isn't always foolproof though, is that sometimes these structural indicators are used to introduce subsidiary conclusions, which function to support the argument's main conclusion.
I think the best and truly easiest way is to actively read the stimulus for support. As you read, ask yourself how the stimulus is using each sentence--does the sentence/idea function to support some other idea? If so, then it is not the conclusion. The main conclusion of the argument is always a statement/idea that is supported by virtually everything else supplied in the stimulus, and it doesn't support any other idea.
I am a diehard Black Ticonderoga fan. I'm left-handed and while I can't prove that there's a concrete difference, I do find that they seem to smudge less onto the side my hand as I write across the page compared with other standard #2 pencils. Just a tip for other lefties out there!
@ I am also in the same boat. I just turned 27 and never planned to delay this long, all in the name of LSAT.
Firstly, thanks @ for the insight. I've noticed a lot of your posts here are valuable--thanks for taking the time to help!
Another quick question re:
@ Yeah, definitely don’t want to skip anything on a curve breaker. Once I get past Q15 or so, I start being a lot more careful. My pacing goals start with finishing the first 15 in 15 minutes. If I’m on target I’ll slow down at this point when the questions tend to start getting more difficult.
I keep seeing this first 15 questions in 15 minutes/first 10 questions in 10 minutes pacing strategy mentioned throughout the forum. But is it actually true that the first 15 questions are generally easier than the last 10 or so? Is this by design? I've never seen this officially acknowledged anywhere by LSAC, so I'd like to know how/where everyone is getting this impression from.
Would love to hear everyone (especially top scorers) weigh in on this--
Do you ever, in the course of doing an LR/LG section [under timed conditions] find yourselves selecting an answer choice and moving on WITHOUT continuing reading the other remaining answer choices? I know the proper approach in selecting a correct answer is to both identify the correct answer, AND to decisively eliminate every single incorrect answer, but sometimes you come across the correct answer choice that you've already anticipated while assessing the stimulus, and you know it's 100% correct before reading all the other answer choices. The reason I ask about this is because after drilling so many PT's, I still struggle with finishing all the test sections on time, and that amounts to lost points. So, I wonder if it would be the right strategy to pick the right answer and move on without reading all the remaining choices, (in those few cases where I do anticipate and identify the right answer with 100% certainty) in the interest of time?
And are there other study groups that meet during the evenings?
How long does each call typically run?
1. For those schools that ask you to explain why you've taken the LSAT multiple times, what is an appropriate way to respond? Can you be honest and say that you were really underprepared the first (couple) time(s) and felt that you could perform better by practicing and taking it again? Or must you have a more concrete reason (e.g. you were sick during a take, etc.)
2. How specific can I get in my personal statement regarding my prospective field of law? I am a relatively more experienced applicant, having been out of school for a few years, and through my other work/grad school experiences I've been able to narrow down my interest to a specific field of law. The issue is this: while I know it is a good thing in general to show some kind of contextual interest in law and/or vision of what your future professional practice might look like, I worry that from the perspective of admissions professionals---who might often see lots of applicants express their interest in more noble causes like human rights or children's advocacy, only to later on graduate and practice in big, white shoe firms and go on to specialize in more transactional, lucrative areas of the law---this might come off as naive. Is it okay to express strong commitment to one, very specific field of law, or is it better to soften that language in the personal statement?
Thanks for answering questions!
@ sorry--I'm still braindead. It was from LG.
I can confirm that the french/russian language question was real
https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-53-section-1-question-09/
I could really use some help on this one.
First, here's a quick breakdown of the stimulus:
P: Nesting female leatherbacks have declined by more than 2/3.
P: Any species whose population declines by more than 2/3 is in danger of extinction.
C: Leatherback turtles are in danger of extinction.
Even though I quickly realized the gap between nesting females and the entire population of leatherbacks, I still don't see how answer A passes the negation rule (that the correct answer choice to all necessary assumption questions must pass).
A says: "The decline in the population of nesting female leatherbacks is proportional to the decline in the leatherback population as a whole."
When I negate answer choice A, I read it as "the decline in the population of nesting female leatherbacks IS NOT proportional to the decline in the leatherback population as a whole." While I see how this can be problematic for the conclusion, it doesn't necessarily make it false. Let's assume that the decline being referred to in the stimulus in the nesting female subpopulation is 70% (greater than 2/3). If we are applying the negation of A, then decline in the entire population of leatherbacks is NOT PROPORTIONAL to the 70% decline in nesting females. However, it still can be true that the entire population of leatherback turtles is declining by more than 2/3 (they're declining by 85%). So the conclusion can still be true that leatherbacks as a whole are in danger of extinction.
So while A would be the perfect sufficient assumption answer choice, it doesn't seem like it's playing by the LSAT's rules for necessary assumption questions.
Recognizing this problem, during blind review I chose answer choice D, because I assumed that "nesting" meant not living in captivity. So by negating D, it reads "Not very few leatherback turtles exist in captivity." And since "few" = "some, but not most," in plain English, D translates to: either none or most (>50%) of the turtleback population lives in captivity. So if most of these turtles do in fact live in captivity (let's just assume 51% of them do), then a 2/3 decline in the nesting females can constitute only a maximum overall decline of ~34% in the entire population of leatherbacks, which is obviously less than 2/3, and means we cannot make the conclusion that they're in danger of extinction. So isn't this assumption the necessary one?
Please help. My brain hurts...
@ Haven't waded through all the comments yet. But do any September takers feel this was substantially easier. That is my immediate takeaway
I think it was reasonable, with the exception of LG, which I though was relatively just as bad as september (PT 79). maybe worse.
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do you remember which section # those were in? (If you are allowed to discuss about section #)
I don't, because I only had 2 LR sections, so I know that these were experimental by deduction.
I believe these LR questions were experimental:
-Touching Something Blue and Red
-What Year a Book was Written based on it Asking Where He Was
so I take it that the RC passage on human/animal evolution and environmental conditions was experimental?
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Also, a question about male birds using something that's dangerous to baby birds to attract female birds, i think it was a strengthen question ....
Does that one fit with the "Birds and their nests" question?
Yes, same question.
Can anyone confirm whether or not this RC passagewas real?
-Francis Fukuyama/The End of History
I can confirm that the following LR questions were real:
-Leopard Magpie
-18th-Century Church Organ
-Iguanas on an Island
-Birds and Their Nests
Does anyone else get the feeling that the LSAT writers are starting to get unhinged on the games sections?
I am retaking the test for a second time and have just come off an intense run with testmasters, but as you've some people here have pointed out so well, each test prep source has its own strengths/weaknesses. The first time I sat for the test, I was seriously underprepared and scored a 153, which was devastating. After recovering from that, I took up a testmasters tutoring course, and now I'm scoring higher, in the mid to high160's, but my scores on practice tests tend to fluctuate quite a bit and I also tend to struggle with keeping time, so most of these scores are not based on true test taking conditions (I think I'd score much lower in reality because as things are going I rarely tend to finish a section under 35 minutes!). Now I'm tempted to consider pushing back my scheduled test date (February 6th to June 6th) so that I can try out this blind review method... However I should say that I think pushing back the test will only be worth the sacrifice in time if this method is truly likely to help me significantly increase my score (ideally breaking into the low to mid 170's). Do you think I should do it? I would appreciate any thoughts/advice on this!
@ can you please post an updated version of this for folks taking the December test this weekend? Would be massively helpful!