Question: Are there specific question types that will or won't use these indicators/lawgic? If so, which types are more likely to use them, or which ones will always/never use lawgic or conditional indicators? I am really struggling with when I am supposed to use this method. I have basically started over at this section to relearn this material. If anyone has a good way to remember this, please help!

I NEED JY!!!! These explanations are easier to grasp with his videos.

So, is JY not going to do anymore videos? I learn from him so well. The way JY explains and emphasizes his wording makes paying attention extremely easy. No offense to anyone else, I just specifically purchased this program because of JY.

@marynuez206 Has there been any updates on how they plan to score the 8/2024 test? Since it’s the first of its kind, is there a pulse on whether it will be scored exactly the same, more leniently or more strictly?

I haven’t studied since I decided to wait for my kids to graduate high school 6 years ago, so it’s been a while and I want to attack this test aggressively. Do you have any suggestions? Is there any advantage to starting with the $69 per month option and upgrading as the test draws closer?

Thanks in advance!

Yes!!! Thank you so much. Thank you @jkatz1488955 for showing me this. It is my one year anniversary this Sunday, and I will be in Michigan, but I don't care. I can wait for anniversary fun. I cannot wait for this. :)

> @974 said:

> If you had trouble on PT 68, Game 4 I just posted an explanation for it in the comments on that page last week. It got me through in under 7 minutes.

Hi,

Can you post a link to where your explanation is? I have not yet made it to that game, but I would like to have that explanation ready. :) thanks

@danielmoshesieradzki129 Thank you. That gave me a direction to head. :)

@danielmoshesieradzki129 This may have been asked, so if so, I apologize. Is there a way to do some of the PT's 1-35 at least half of the time, rather than the clean PT's 36-80 that we are saving for closer to the test date (for those of us taking in December)? I really want to take part,but I don't want to screw myself by not being able to work through BR alone on some of the newer tests.

I have so many questions, and there are a lot of question types I would love to work through with a group. Is this possible for this particular study group? If not, I completely get it... we are all at different stages in our CC.

Thanks in advance for considering the possibilities and working so hard to organize this.

~S

@928 I just looked over the schedule, and read through the comments. I am not at the point that I can do PT's yet. I am trying to finish my CC. I think I misunderstood about the PT's originally. I apologize. I would love to be in a group in the future once I am able to contribute productively. If you know of a study group that is aimed at people still working through the CC, please let me know.

Hey,

Thanks for adding me in. I just checked my discussions and I am so sorry I missed tonight. I will make sure to plan for next week. Will we be doing BR of PT every week or specific sections and problems?

@melindasong22757 said:

I have the PTs spaced out fairly generously, especially the later and more recent tests. I have my backup plan as December and I wanted to make sure I had enough material to continue studying on up until the , so I made sure to space them out for this reason. I think it still could be beneficial for you if you worked on the earlier tests with us.

Also, it's not too late. I don't have my doors closed (yet)

Awesome!! If you don't mind, I would love to join. :) I haven't done this before, so you may need to just tell me what I do, or when to show up online. :) Thanks again.

Hey guys, is it too late for me?I am registered for December and I am on the east coast. I am trying to finish CC before I tackle the PT's. I am still trying to get through really understanding LR, but I think I could really gain a lot from being a part of it. I will know the least, but hopefully I can learn a lot. Can you guys fit me in?

@jordankennedy480 @47064 Thanks guys. You are right. I was absolutely using my outside knowledge for the questions. That is constantly tripping me up. Things that wouldn't ordinarily be correct are flagging something in my brain and wasting my time and attention. I am going to work another problem set focusing only on the information given.

One question though, which type require us to make inferences that are not there? Flow up or flow down? Are the inferences really just information already contained in the stimulus anyway?

@ilikephilosophy993 Thanks for the idea, I like that. @jordankennedy480 Thank your for the explanation. You mentioned that Limericks are not poems, but they are silly or humorous 5 line poems that consist of rhyming and some verbal rhythm. I didn't really know which answer to choose originally, just looked for something that was true. Why was D not true? Or was C just more true?

@shindavis16143 @rileymajeunefagan676 @jordankennedy480

Thank you all. Seeing the differences in Q stem wording actually helped a lot, how it flowed up or down.

I keep finding myself stuck on level 4 & 5 MSS questions. I do not know how to attach a link to a question in here, but PT19, S4, Q12 was one that I still feel was badly worded. I felt like between the inferences that had to be made in AC (C) and (E), E was the much shorter stretch and could be logically inferred from the passage. For C, we would have had to not only assume that it was clearly less efficient, (because otherwise why have a pheromone trail to guide you back to your home if it wasn't more efficient), but it was also asking us to make the leap that ANY ants that did forage during afternoons in the Sahara, generally didn't use pheromones to forage.

E only required that we infer that IF any ants foraged for food in the Sahara in the afternoons, in temps above 45 degrees C, then they were less efficient than they were when temps were lower than 45 degrees.

Also, if you are able to look, can anyone explain how I would have identified in PT27 S1 Q20 that I was supposed to set everything as a contrast against a poem's definition? I didn't see that, I honestly had no clue how to approach this, aside from looking for something that was a statement of fact.

If anyone can tell me how to imbed links to things so I don't just reference the PT numbers, I can do that in the future.

Thanks in advance!!

This is AWESOME!!!!!

@tristandesinor505 no I didn't...thanks!! I will be watching the Harvard one for sure. :)

oh wow! Now I feel quite stupid. lol. Thanks @shindavis16143 and @7sagestudentservices

@7sagestudentservices I know this sounds stupid to a computer wiz...but I have no idea what I did to email you and post a thread. I am still trying to figure out how to just send you a private message. Sorry if I did something wrong, it wasn't intentional.

We have no idea how much space there is in boxes relative to natural nesting sites. Space isn't tied to being overcrowded. Your 2 bedroom apartment has the same space whether it is crowded with 4th graders or not. Space is an empirical measurement, and we are not provided with that data.

@jhaldy10325 Ok, this really helped a lot. I have been looking at the word "space" and "crowded" as basically ending in the same place. I wasn't thinking in terms of actual definition, I was applying our real world contextual usage to the idea.

So, if we need to establish or imply that these nesting boxes are in use, I think the final line of the stimulus accomplishes this. The nesting boxes can't "become" anything if they don't exist. They do become something though, so we can reasonably imply that there are some boxes out there.

This was also enormously helpful. I had never considered the word "become" as being significant. Once you say it that way, it seems so obvious that they are telling us the boxes have already "become" crowded and thus they are currently in use and not just theory.

Thank you very much!! I have been beating my head against the wall about this one in particular.

Ok, I looked at it again. The trade linking China and Europe isn't really useful in terms of the only possible correct AC. The 'popular stopover for pilgrims on route between M & M and the traders purse containing more diverse coins' should have eliminated all other answers from what I can see. Is that what I should have seen first off?

I guess I was looking at it with the "don't select absolute answers" mentality and almost wanted to find fault with it. It is the only one that makes sense, but it just seemed badly worded. Is there a helpful way to approach questions/stems that do this?