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http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/2015-usnwr-top-20-rankings-with-i-changes/
1. Yale
2. Harvard
2. Stanford (+1)
4. Columbia
4. Chicago
6. NYU
7. Penn
8. UVa
8. Berkeley (+1)
8. Duke (+2)
11. Michigan (-1)
12. Northwestern
13. Cornell
14. GULC (-1)
15. Texas
16. UCLA
17. Vanderbilt (-1)
18. Wash U
19. Emory
20. USC
20. Minnesota
Honorable mentions include UCI at #30, UC Davis at #31, BC at #34, GW at #23
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You'll be good!!! All the best for that.
@nielsinha488 I hope so! I'm between their 25%-50% for GPA so I'll probably need more than their current median LSAT (164). Getting back to the study grind has been tough lol.
Irvine it is @clineginger24 ???
YAY!!!!!
http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/law-rankings
It's official.
Hopefully much doesn't change by tmrw!
@igbodoe249 Yes leaked by Spivey Consulting. Although it's not official, Spivey is well connected with insider information.
@igbodoe249 this is a leak... hopefully it will be authenticated tomorrow.
They are not published until March 10, 2015.
This is false information.
@igbodoe249 Michigan's decline began ever since the poaching of their top faculty by NYU on its rise.... its been slowly but surely downhill from there... the Detroit thing could be a factor.. just how much is difficult to get. The T14 basically came into being in 1987... at which time Michigan was ranked number 3 and during the next few years, it kept its spot in the top 6... NYU, which was on the rise as a legal powerhouse, engaged in predatory poaching of professors from Michigan. As you can see from the the following chart, which also shows that Cornell and Northwestern were not T14s when the ranking came out... their spots were held by UCLA and UT Austin... but only for the inaugural year of the rankings, around 94, Michigan started to lose ground to NYU... This was because of the exodus of a number of influential faq members to NYU :
http://prelawhandbook.com/law_school_rankings__1987_1999
NYU, has been known for its predatory poaching practices, as it can afford to bring the cream of the crop to its law school because of its substantial endowment - it regularly poaches from its uptown rival Columbia as well... as you might be able to see from this link: http://columbialion.com/blog/nyu-law-school-poaches-another-columbia-professor-this-time-for-dean/
Infact, they pride themselves on it. This is excellent for the students studying at NYU as they get to have the best contacts in the business and get to learn from global scholars doing cutting edge work.
Wow really (about Michigan's descent)? I'd be shocked if that proved to be true. I wonder to what extent the decline of Detroit has affected U of M grads
And Chemerinsky without a doubt is the star draw that I would have gone for!!! look at this: http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/cypress/nationaljurist0311/#/22
@clineginger24 Oh that is a GREAT school man... I would have loved to go there... what... studying Con Law on the beach with an iced tea by my side would be a dream that I would finally have gotten to fulfill :P Best of luck for that!
@nielsinha488 Interesting. Hopefully today's information will be confirmed tomorrow! I honestly don't care too much for T14 or even T20 stuff but UCI. lol.
@igbodoe249 I wouldn't be so sure of that... there is strong speculation that Michigan's decent towards the bottom of the T14 is a permanent feature... and what Michigan was in the 90's, Duke is becoming this decade. There is also some speculation (not likely in my opinion) that Michigan may soon be headed out of the T14... which, however improbable, remains to be seen.
UMich used to be ranked pretty high (top 6/7) 20-25 years ago. But like @nielsinha488 said, their job placement have not been on par with its peer schools. On the other hand, I've been reading on TLS Duke has been improving a lot in recent years so its entry into the Top 10 was well deserved.
I'm curious to know that myself @clineginger24 . I'm really surprised by Duke getting in the top 10, though next year they'll probably be 11 again. Besides Michigan and Duke, I'd say the rankings look pretty standard.
@clineginger24 lots of things, not placing as students into jobs as well as peer schools for one.
@clineginger24 just curious, why was the Michigan drop inevitable?
Just in - Duke rejected and wait-listed a ton of applicants today...
Got it from another forum... from the forum master... though he said that this seems accurate with the top 10 peek (which does not appear as ranked on ATL but Duke is there and Michigan is not) so this might be true...
How so?
Also, the "rankings leak" last year turned out to be false apparently... so I'll still wait for tomorrow.. though the Duke Michigan thing squares up with Above the Law 's peek at the USNWR rankings.
Not sure about that one... but yeah... congrats to UCI!!! It beat off some real well regarded schools!!!
They always leak though, right?