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LR Question Justify the conclusion

emilycyoung1emilycyoung1 Free Trial Member
edited July 2016 in General 234 karma
An argument states that: Maria won this year's sailboat race by beating Sue, who has in each of the four last years. We can conclude from this that Maria trained hard.

Premise: Maria won this year by beating Sue who won the last 4 years
Conclusion: Maria trained hard.

I was between these two answers and chose the first one incorrectly:

1. If Maria trained hard, she would win the sailboat race
2. Maria could beat a four time winner only if she trained hard

The explanation says that the first one (the one I picked) is a mistaken reversal, but how am I supposed to know how to conditionally diagram this??

Why couldn't it be diagrammed as if maria trained hard she won, instead of if maria won she trained hard?

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  • daniel.noah.pearlbergdaniel.noah.pearlberg Free Trial Member
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    Because the conclusion is that Maria trained hard. Think of that as B. We can arrive at that conclusion if we are given the following two premises: (i) If A then B; (ii) A. Then, if those premises are true, the conclusion B must be true as well.
    You are suggesting the following premises: (i) If B then A; (ii) A. Even if those premises are true, the conclusion B doesn't follow. That's the mistaken reversal.
  • emilycyoung1emilycyoung1 Free Trial Member
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    @daniel.noah.pearlberg so always put the conclusion as the necessary condition?
  • emilycyoung1emilycyoung1 Free Trial Member
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    @"Cant Get Right" could you help with this post question as well? Thank you for all of your help!!
  • Cant Get RightCant Get Right Yearly + Live Member Sage 🍌 7Sage Tutor
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    Hey, no problem @emilycyoung1 ! So, the first thing I see here is that the conclusion is “Maria trained hard.” That’s where we’re trying to get to, so I know I need to throw that into a necessary position. So in my answer choices I’m looking for something along the lines of:

    _?_ —> Maria trained hard.

    You could throw this into the sufficient slot by negating it, but that seems very counterintuitive to me. We’re trying to force the conclusion to be true, and a really easy way to do that is to make the conclusion a necessary assumption in a conditional and then affirm the sufficient. If we affirm the sufficient then the necessary must be true (Woah, that’s a really meta conditional statement, lol), so we just need to look for something affirmative in the stimulus to make the sufficient in our conditional. In this case, all we really know is that Maria beat Sue. So by making that our sufficient, we affirm the sufficient and force out the necessary which is our conclusion.

    So with the answer choices, "if" introduces a sufficient assumption and “only if” introduces a necessary assumption. That’s why those two statements are reversals of each other.

    @emilycyoung1 said:
    Why couldn't it be diagrammed as if maria trained hard she won
    So with this statement, we’re not accomplishing the justification of the conclusion. Our conclusion is Maria trained hard and we need to force that to be true. We know that she won, but affirming a necessary doesn’t trigger the sufficient, so this statement fails to force out the conclusion.
  • emilycyoung1emilycyoung1 Free Trial Member
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    @"Cant Get Right" So in these sort of arguments/statements, can you always just put the conclusion as the necessary?
  • Cant Get RightCant Get Right Yearly + Live Member Sage 🍌 7Sage Tutor
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    Pretty much, yeah. If you do that and then find a sufficient you can plug in that the stimulus can confirm, that conditional statement will always justify the conclusion.
  • emilycyoung1emilycyoung1 Free Trial Member
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    Ok because I was really confused as to why this wouldnt have been the answer: If Maria trained hard, she would win the sailboat race. Can you explain that real quick?
  • emilycyoung1emilycyoung1 Free Trial Member
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  • Cant Get RightCant Get Right Yearly + Live Member Sage 🍌 7Sage Tutor
    edited July 2016 27822 karma
    I should add that very frequently the conditional structures are more complex than this one. So there may be a lot of options that could work for your sufficient term. It’s typically the least obvious option. So if our argument in the stimulus is:

    A —> B —> C
    conclusion: A —> D

    you’re probably looking for C —> D.

    But it’s worth noting that B —> D or technically even A —> D would justify the conclusion just as successfully. So in this more complex conditional chain, you’ve just got the additional step of making sure it’s true that A —> C.
  • Cant Get RightCant Get Right Yearly + Live Member Sage 🍌 7Sage Tutor
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    @emilycyoung1 said:
    Ok because I was really confused as to why this wouldnt have been the answer: If Maria trained hard, she would win the sailboat race. Can you explain that real quick?
    With this answer choice, it’s important to remember what the question is asking us to do. We have to logically force “Maria trained hard” to be true. This statement just doesn’t do that. This is saying that IF she trained hard she won.

    The statement is contingent on whether or not she trained hard, so there’s nothing it can do to force her to have trained hard, even if we can affirm the necessary condition. Affirming the necessary frees the sufficient condition to be fulfilled or not. The rule no longer matters.
  • emilycyoung1emilycyoung1 Free Trial Member
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    Oh I completely understand now!! That makes so much sense @"Cant Get Right"
  • Cant Get RightCant Get Right Yearly + Live Member Sage 🍌 7Sage Tutor
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    Glad to help @emilycyoung1 ! Love to see things clicking into place for people!
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