Is this official? Last year's rankings are still on the USNWR website. It's interesting how much Berkley moved up and Georgetown reclaimed its spot in the T14.
@Emily2122 said:
Is this official? Last year's rankings are still on the USNWR website. It's interesting how much Berkley moved up and Georgetown reclaimed its spot in the T14.
@LastLSAT said:
How does Berkeley beat out Duke and tie with UVA?
Employment stats and LSAT/GPA averages don't seem to match this upward movement...
Still early - and the official release isn't until like the 20th - but from what I've read from Spivy, it sounds like they may have changed up the way they calculate it a bit. (Student/Teacher ratio for example)
@LastLSAT said:
How does Berkeley beat out Duke and tie with UVA?
Employment stats and LSAT/GPA averages don't seem to match this upward movement...
Berkeley got Cheriminsky as a dean. He wrote a Constitutional Law textbook that many law schools use. Hes well regarded in legal academia so his move berkeley probably increased their peer assesment score. Im surprised that uci was able to jump 7 points after losing Cherimnsky
@spitzy11 I hope so. As a Californian I’ve been rejected and WL’ed by the other two schools I applied to (USC, UCLA) so I want some good Cali news haha
I remember how unhappy and concerned Berkeley's faculty and staff were last year, with the drop in ranking, budget cuts, that one unfortunate incident, and whatnot. They must be quite relieved by now.
Gotta hand it to UCI. The school is faring far beyond my initial expectations.
Since UCI is proving itself to be a competent institution, I think the Golden State can afford to lose two or three law schools now. Way too many of them in California...
Cornell has been ranked 13th for quite a while now. The school must be under a lot of pressure nowadays. Georgetown changed T14 into T13; Cornell must be doing everything it can to ensure T13 doesn't change to T12.
@FixedDice said:
Gotta hand it to UCI. The school is faring far beyond my initial expectations.
Since UCI is proving itself to be a competent institution, I think the Golden State can afford to lose two or three law schools now. Way too many of them in California...
California is huge, though. A lot of the Cali schools are up-and-coming.
How, if at all, will a decrease in ranking affect a school's admissions process? Do you think they'll become more scrupulous in choosing the best applicants to make up for the decrease in rank? I guess this leads to my other question about these rankings and what criteria is used to determine them.
@FixedDice said:
Gotta hand it to UCI. The school is faring far beyond my initial expectations.
Since UCI is proving itself to be a competent institution, I think the Golden State can afford to lose two or three law schools now. Way too many of them in California...
Amen to that. Theres already enough competition in California as is.
@Ignatius said:
How, if at all, will a decrease in ranking affect a school's admissions process? Do you think they'll become more scrupulous in choosing the best applicants to make up for the decrease in rank? I guess this leads to my other question about these rankings and what criteria is used to determine them.
No matter what they are going to try to get the best USNews ranking outcome they can. The rankings are determined by several things including highest LSAT and LSAC GPA of admitted candidates as well as more nebulous difficult to change things like reputation. That's true whether they drop or increase.
The decrease in ranking would probably cause studrnts to be less eager to attend for the same scholarship money. This would probably mean that either the school would have to offer bigger scholarships to attract students or risk having their GPA and LSAT medians drop further potentially lowering them further in the rankings in future years.
@goingfor99th said:
California is huge, though. A lot of the Cali schools are up-and-coming.
There are about 20 accredited law schools - let alone partially accredited, unaccredited, and online law schools - in California out of about 200 accredited law schools in the nation. Graduates from other states can work in California too. Granted, saturation can be a subjective standard. I do think there's a threshold though.
@goingfor99th said:
California is huge, though. A lot of the Cali schools are up-and-coming.
There are about 20 accredited law schools - let alone partially accredited, unaccredited, and online law schools - in California out of about 200 accredited law schools in the nation. Graduates from other states can work in California too. Granted, saturation can be a subjective standard. I do think there's a threshold though.
I see what you mean. I suppose that in this sense there are too many law schools nationally, too.
@spitzy11 said:
YES YES YES
FWIW, I visited UCI yesterday and LOVED it. Such an awesome atmosphere.
I live on campus at UCI (in a PhD program though). Lemme know if you have any questions about the student or the area!
Whats the best housing for the quality and price? Palo verde?
Palo Verde and Verano are the best options, including off campus options too. They're pretty equal, depends more on the apartment type in the community. When you apply for housing you can apply with specific room types in both communities at the same time, so you can put you preferences down by price if you'd like.
They're on average the same quality, although PV is more variable (some not so good, others very nice) than Verano.
@spitzy11 said:
YES YES YES
FWIW, I visited UCI yesterday and LOVED it. Such an awesome atmosphere.
I live on campus at UCI (in a PhD program though). Lemme know if you have any questions about the student or the area!
Whats the best housing for the quality and price? Palo verde?
Palo Verde and Verano are the best options, including off campus options too. They're pretty equal, depends more on the apartment type in the community. When you apply for housing you can apply with specific room types in both communities at the same time, so you can put you preferences down by price if you'd like.
They're on average the same quality, although PV is more variable (some not so good, others very nice) than Verano.
Zot zot!
Do you know if it’s true that there are pretty much no one bedrooms available in Palo Verde and Verano?? I’m bringing my cat so I’m super pumped those two allow you to bring them!! ?
@spitzy11 said:
YES YES YES
FWIW, I visited UCI yesterday and LOVED it. Such an awesome atmosphere.
I live on campus at UCI (in a PhD program though). Lemme know if you have any questions about the student or the area!
Whats the best housing for the quality and price? Palo verde?
Palo Verde and Verano are the best options, including off campus options too. They're pretty equal, depends more on the apartment type in the community. When you apply for housing you can apply with specific room types in both communities at the same time, so you can put you preferences down by price if you'd like.
They're on average the same quality, although PV is more variable (some not so good, others very nice) than Verano.
Zot zot!
Do you know if it’s true that there are pretty much no one bedrooms available in Palo Verde and Verano?? I’m bringing my cat so I’m super pumped those two allow you to bring them!! ?
@spitzy11 said:
YES YES YES
FWIW, I visited UCI yesterday and LOVED it. Such an awesome atmosphere.
I live on campus at UCI (in a PhD program though). Lemme know if you have any questions about the student or the area!
Whats the best housing for the quality and price? Palo verde?
Palo Verde and Verano are the best options, including off campus options too. They're pretty equal, depends more on the apartment type in the community. When you apply for housing you can apply with specific room types in both communities at the same time, so you can put you preferences down by price if you'd like.
They're on average the same quality, although PV is more variable (some not so good, others very nice) than Verano.
Zot zot!
Do you know if it’s true that there are pretty much no one bedrooms available in Palo Verde and Verano?? I’m bringing my cat so I’m super pumped those two allow you to bring them!! ?
Woah who said that??
Financial aid (unless I misinterpreted?). She said there’s a shortage in housing overall.
@spitzy11@westcoastbestcoast
One bedrooms are hard to come by, unless you have extenuating circumstances. But cats are super common, and on the housing application you specify if you are planning on bringing cats and if you'd like to.live with cats. So even when it's a two or three person, your with cat people.
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Omg, UCI got +7!?!?!
Me too....!! They don't have a Status Checker!!
I guess UT's stint in the T-14 was a one year wonder lol
wowwww!! UCIII yayy. I just need to negotiate for more aid!!
Is this official? Last year's rankings are still on the USNWR website. It's interesting how much Berkley moved up and Georgetown reclaimed its spot in the T14.
Yep! Spivy has the hookup haha
@LSATcantwin Good to know lol
@LSATcantwin Thanks for the update! My dream school Duke fell by 1!?! Not to me duke...not to me
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Still early - and the official release isn't until like the 20th - but from what I've read from Spivy, it sounds like they may have changed up the way they calculate it a bit. (Student/Teacher ratio for example)
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BERKELEY!!!!! +3 is huge.
GT back in the T14. NW, Duke, and UVA down 1 due to Big Bad Berk.
Man, that Dean Chemerinsky effect in full swing haha! Nicely done, UCI!! And Berkeley, wow!
Berkeley got Cheriminsky as a dean. He wrote a Constitutional Law textbook that many law schools use. Hes well regarded in legal academia so his move berkeley probably increased their peer assesment score. Im surprised that uci was able to jump 7 points after losing Cherimnsky
Thanks for sharing. GW is looking good with that +6 jump.
Dang I feel weird turning down UCI's acceptance now...that's a big bump
YES YES YES
FWIW, I visited UCI yesterday and LOVED it. Such an awesome atmosphere.
The campus is really good and peaceful. Are you out of state or instate?
I just want them to acknowledge my existence!!
Make a visit if you haven't done so already!! Also, when did you apply?
In state! I live basically right near where the Ventura fires were this fall.
It's definitely tough without the status checker!! If I had to guess, I think you're in
@westcoastbestcoast First weekend of Jan.
@spitzy11 I hope so. As a Californian I’ve been rejected and WL’ed by the other two schools I applied to (USC, UCLA) so I want some good Cali news haha
Oh wow.. I hope your house was ok.. I'm out in the IE!
IE! I went to school in east LA county, lived in West Covina. IE was kind of my home turf in college.
Yeah, I was ok! It stopped heading in our direction. A bunch of my professors and family friends had to evacuate though.
Ayyy I went to high school in the IE!
Small worldd. I'm out in Corona a bit more east.
Where did you go to school and college!!
Just noticed the rest of the rankings were released. A moment of silence for the University of Tulsa (-19)...
damn... rutgers -12 : /
I remember how unhappy and concerned Berkeley's faculty and staff were last year, with the drop in ranking, budget cuts, that one unfortunate incident, and whatnot. They must be quite relieved by now.
Gotta hand it to UCI. The school is faring far beyond my initial expectations.
Since UCI is proving itself to be a competent institution, I think the Golden State can afford to lose two or three law schools now. Way too many of them in California...
Cornell has been ranked 13th for quite a while now. The school must be under a lot of pressure nowadays. Georgetown changed T14 into T13; Cornell must be doing everything it can to ensure T13 doesn't change to T12.
California is huge, though. A lot of the Cali schools are up-and-coming.
How, if at all, will a decrease in ranking affect a school's admissions process? Do you think they'll become more scrupulous in choosing the best applicants to make up for the decrease in rank? I guess this leads to my other question about these rankings and what criteria is used to determine them.
Glad to see Georgetown isn't tied with UT Austin anymore, and that UChicago still > Columbia hehe
I live on campus at UCI (in a PhD program though). Lemme know if you have any questions about the student or the area!
Whats the best housing for the quality and price? Palo verde?
Amen to that. Theres already enough competition in California as is.
No matter what they are going to try to get the best USNews ranking outcome they can. The rankings are determined by several things including highest LSAT and LSAC GPA of admitted candidates as well as more nebulous difficult to change things like reputation. That's true whether they drop or increase.
The decrease in ranking would probably cause studrnts to be less eager to attend for the same scholarship money. This would probably mean that either the school would have to offer bigger scholarships to attract students or risk having their GPA and LSAT medians drop further potentially lowering them further in the rankings in future years.
There are about 20 accredited law schools - let alone partially accredited, unaccredited, and online law schools - in California out of about 200 accredited law schools in the nation. Graduates from other states can work in California too. Granted, saturation can be a subjective standard. I do think there's a threshold though.
I see what you mean. I suppose that in this sense there are too many law schools nationally, too.
Looks like it has been updated to include all the rest of the ranked schools! Wahooo!!!
Palo Verde and Verano are the best options, including off campus options too. They're pretty equal, depends more on the apartment type in the community. When you apply for housing you can apply with specific room types in both communities at the same time, so you can put you preferences down by price if you'd like.
They're on average the same quality, although PV is more variable (some not so good, others very nice) than Verano.
Zot zot!
Do you know if it’s true that there are pretty much no one bedrooms available in Palo Verde and Verano?? I’m bringing my cat so I’m super pumped those two allow you to bring them!! ?
Woah who said that??
Financial aid (unless I misinterpreted?). She said there’s a shortage in housing overall.
Proud to be an Irvine resident!
Now if they'll just get back to me on my application...
@spitzy11 @westcoastbestcoast
One bedrooms are hard to come by, unless you have extenuating circumstances. But cats are super common, and on the housing application you specify if you are planning on bringing cats and if you'd like to.live with cats. So even when it's a two or three person, your with cat people.
Looks like all of 7Sage is going to UCI. :B
They're very high on my list! It'll depend on if UT accepts my scholarship appeal letter. We can all be friiiieeeends.