#feedback people have said this before but it bears repeating; this is one of the most confusing Theory and Approach articles in the curriculum. There's a missing example as evidenced in the fourth paragraph, the wording doesn't really make sense (we have no idea what you're talking about, and I think an example would help here too), the abbreviations are overboard, and the fact that this section talks just as much as argument part as method of reasoning (I get that they're similar, but I'm still struggling to understand what argument part is all about).
#feedback why do i have to learn so many abbreviations can yall please write it out at the beginning instead of having to search the site for a clue of what youre talking about?
@ruth.olvera1027 These abbreviations are used throughout the entire curriculum. If you've gone through each of the lessons up to this point, I don't understand how you wouldn't know them by now. I understand not knowing AP but it's literally the title of the lesson.
#feedback also! can we PLEASE get the same video settings on every video. the first video says we can slow down/speed up videos based on our understanding but we actually can't :( tbh i just wanna full screen it!!
#feedback it would be nice if we could hover/click on abbreviations throughout the text heavy pages to remind us what the abbreviations mean. We're learning so much its hard to keep track of the abbreviations.
#feedback People have been confused about what AP stands for. It's not cool to start reading new acronyms without being explained what it means first. We also should not have to go back to the syllabus page to find out what AP means. Some of us just hit the "Next Page" button when learning.
This confusion has been documented for a minimum of 10 months by multiple students, as evidenced by the comments section. What gives?
#feedback I thought MP was referring to some question type we hadn't covered yet and got very confused until I realized MP must have meant MC (Main Conclusion). It would be easier in the future to define MP as Main Point/Main Conclusion in this lesson. It would also be nice if you could rename the sections for MC as MC/MP
#feedback #feedback i'm not seeing the example question about "learning the lessons of history", like it's not anywhere on this page but the lesson is referencing it
#feedback same as everyone else's but just boosting since it hasn't been addressed yet!
1. The type of question is not present in the title or anywhere on the page. It just says "theory and approach." So, unless we went back to the syllabus, we would not know that "AP" stood for Argument Part"
2. What is MP? several of us are confused. Main Conclusion, perhaps?
3. There is a random question stem in the fourth paragraph that is not present in the actual passage anywhere. This question stem is actually for the next lesson.
I think AP = argument parts. I clicked on syllabus and this whole section is called argument parts but I agree they need to put it somewhere here as well.
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I'm just happy to be out of the Necessary Assumptions world...
@jozwiakhm facts
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@bokim MAIN POINT QUESTIONS
@bokim Mian Point/Main Conclusion.
the text here refers back to an example question stem that isn't provided...
"We're leaving behind the world of assumptions" best news I've ever heard
@NathanielWright this made me laugh
AP = Role, what role did x,y,z play as it is stated in the stimulus??
What's MP?? Method of Reasoning Purpose??? Too many abb. #help
@giraffe0619 I had to look it up also. MP is Main Point. I agree that the abbreviations sometimes get in the way of comprehension.
#FEEDBACK Please consider not using abbreviations.
#feedback people have said this before but it bears repeating; this is one of the most confusing Theory and Approach articles in the curriculum. There's a missing example as evidenced in the fourth paragraph, the wording doesn't really make sense (we have no idea what you're talking about, and I think an example would help here too), the abbreviations are overboard, and the fact that this section talks just as much as argument part as method of reasoning (I get that they're similar, but I'm still struggling to understand what argument part is all about).
Please edit this.
@matchalatte1 I absolutely hate when they use the abbreviations to describe question types. Just write them out!!
#feedback In the fourth paragraph, this lesson refers to a question stem that has not yet been presented. This may cause confusion.
#feedback why do i have to learn so many abbreviations can yall please write it out at the beginning instead of having to search the site for a clue of what youre talking about?
@ruth.olvera1027 These abbreviations are used throughout the entire curriculum. If you've gone through each of the lessons up to this point, I don't understand how you wouldn't know them by now. I understand not knowing AP but it's literally the title of the lesson.
#feedback also! can we PLEASE get the same video settings on every video. the first video says we can slow down/speed up videos based on our understanding but we actually can't :( tbh i just wanna full screen it!!
#feedback it would be nice if we could hover/click on abbreviations throughout the text heavy pages to remind us what the abbreviations mean. We're learning so much its hard to keep track of the abbreviations.
@daLSATgod bro just memorize them, how are you going to memorize everything in law school if you can't memorize these.
#feedback Not a 3-minute read
The referential phrasing lesson should also be hyperlinked
#feedback People have been confused about what AP stands for. It's not cool to start reading new acronyms without being explained what it means first. We also should not have to go back to the syllabus page to find out what AP means. Some of us just hit the "Next Page" button when learning.
This confusion has been documented for a minimum of 10 months by multiple students, as evidenced by the comments section. What gives?
@ColinErickson AP stands for Argument Part, which is mentioned in the summary at the beginning of the text...
Who tf read this in 3 minutes?!?! 😭
"As we leave behind WSE, PSA, SA, and NA questions, we're leaving behind the world of assumptions." I hear some tears of joy for many us.
anyone know the difference between Excerpt and Stimulus then?
oh , nevermind
MP: Main point questions
AP: Argument parts
thank you
Thank you
#feedback I thought MP was referring to some question type we hadn't covered yet and got very confused until I realized MP must have meant MC (Main Conclusion). It would be easier in the future to define MP as Main Point/Main Conclusion in this lesson. It would also be nice if you could rename the sections for MC as MC/MP
#feedback Define what "AP" refers to earlier in the article.
It's in the title of the lesson in the syllabus :)
100% agree, the overall structure and understanding of categorizing the different types of questions and strategies could be better. #feedback
Hard agree, this was a mess to read.
#feedback #feedback i'm not seeing the example question about "learning the lessons of history", like it's not anywhere on this page but the lesson is referencing it
Its in the following lesson
#feedback same as everyone else's but just boosting since it hasn't been addressed yet!
1. The type of question is not present in the title or anywhere on the page. It just says "theory and approach." So, unless we went back to the syllabus, we would not know that "AP" stood for Argument Part"
2. What is MP? several of us are confused. Main Conclusion, perhaps?
3. There is a random question stem in the fourth paragraph that is not present in the actual passage anywhere. This question stem is actually for the next lesson.
I was wondering about the random question stem! I thought I missed something...
2: MP is main point which is pretty much the same as main conclusion (I think)
I think AP = argument parts. I clicked on syllabus and this whole section is called argument parts but I agree they need to put it somewhere here as well.
I might be missing something obvious here but what are "MP" questions?
Yes, that's right - Main Conclusion questions.
No literally what are MP questions? Is it main point meaning main conclusion (MC) questions? #help
Also the fourth paragraph talks about a question stem that is not present #feedback
Can you make sure to write out what the acronyms stand for? I kept seeing "AP" but had no idea what that meant. Its not even in the title.
#feedback There is a random question stem after the third paragraph, that I believe was an accidental paste.