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Do law schools accept less students if their ranking goes up because they want to show exclusivity?
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Do law schools accept less students if their ranking goes up because they want to show exclusivity?
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@nielsinha488 I was using Harvard as an example not anticipated fact.
&& I hope so haha
@igbodoe249 Harvard is again ranked at #2 this year (tied with Stanford now). I do not see Harvard tightening their admission standards so they can try to beat Yale (or at least tie). Harvard has very large class sizes (500+) so they can't be as selective as Yale/Stanford.
But in the grande scheme of things, I wouldn't worry about your initial worries...the number of applicants are down across the board so schools are scrambling to keep their medians.
@igbodoe249 its not the sole cause... its one of the many factors that helps determine rank...
I get what your saying @wraith985-4026 I see how I may have done the incorrect reversal of your statement. But sounds like a circular reasoning to me a bit.
So they rise in rank because they are selective. Wouldn't that mean that their selectivity is correlated with higher rank?
For example, if Harvard is ranked number 2 this year and they start selecting less students then by next year their ranking can go higher. That's essentially same as their selectivity correlated with higher ranking. And ranking correlated wiyh higher selectivity.
I don't want to say it's a causation because their ranking does also factor in other interesting elements.
That's okay, you said it *could* be true. Makes all the difference! That's why we lawyers are all noncommittal hedging bastards :D
@wraith985-4026 correlation does not imply causation :D How could I make this mistake :P .
Yes, that's why some schools may offer waivers for application fees to students outside their numbers range. Even though they will likely not accept them, it raises their selectivity rating.
Also, I second Nilesh's recommendation to attend as many 1L "bar review" sessions as possible.
Selectivity is a ranking criterion iirc, so it's more likely that a school would rise in rank BECAUSE they're selective, not become more selective as they rise in rank.
@licknee10505 Well I'd love to... I was a national champion at mooting back home... and my fave moot to go for (and if you want to work in international commercial law you should DEFINITELY try for this one) is the Wilhelm C. Vis Arbitration moot... you do well there and that practically guarantees you a top legal job... and Vienna is an awesome city to visit... but as I'm already an attorney back home, I don't think I'm eligible for it :/ ...yes for the School internal moot court though.
lol ...speaking from experience... both at UChicago and at UPenn law where I did my LL.Ms... those were the days of the week that I used to look forward too :D
Are you going to participate in Moot court?
OMG. Look at you now lol
haha look forward to it!!! Of course there will be life... don't tell anyone I said this... but Bar Review is one of the BEST nights of the week :D
I know. So when I get to one of those schools I'll make sure to post it on FB & tag you LMAO. I def won't have a life by then
haha @licknee10505 UNC is a GREAT school to have as an option... you should check out some of the Columbia and NYU Law revue videos... they are just like that one if not more lolworthy
I wish! lol
Then you might say no to them for one of HYSCCN... ;) who knows with the amount of work you guys are putting in... that is a VERY likely scenario!!!
@nielsinha488 well UNC was an option but after that 1L video IDK if it's the right school for me LOL
Yeah Duke's LSAT medians are 166-169-170 and 3.66-3.77-3.85.
And you still will... and you'll get through... with money... of that I have NO doubt @licknee10505
@nielsinha488 And I was going to apply to Duke lol
@nielsinha488 totally... a mid to high 160s score makes you competitive today at some of the T14... but would not have done so 3 - 5 years ago. You MAY have secured admission... but certainly not and schol money.
To be fair, it's easier to get into top schools now than 4-5 years ago. Have you seen the median drops at some of the T14's?
@igbodoe249 I don't think law schools really have a quota so I don't think they admit less students (haven't really looked into the data but would be interested). Rather, they maintain relatively the same number of students but try to lower their percentage of admitted students (and show exclusivity) by expanding the pie and getting more applicants to apply. I know it's a practice for schools to send few waivers to students to apply, even though many of those applicants are well outside their median rage of GPA and LSAT scores.