Hey, everyone.

I never thought I'd be back at square 1 again to redo this exam. I took it in 2021 and got a 154 which was a huge jump from my 137 in 2017. I started my first year at law school from 2022-2023. Unfortunately, since I was not eligible for any loans, I worked full time and overtime throughout my 1L to pay for tuition, and attended school part time. My grades suffered and ultimately my health, too. I was dismissed just at the start of the Fall 2023 semester with no permission for an appeal, though the school was aware of my financial circumstances, and the dismissal letter stated that I was 'facing significant non-academic issues that placed tremendous demands on [your] time'. I tried to apply to a few schools just a few weeks ago after I finally got over the initial shock of being dismissed and having a tarnished record, but none of them allow me to even put in an application for another 2 years after this dismissal. I signed up for the June 2024 exam to see if I can get a higher score, with the intention to try and apply again in Fall 2024 with the hope of returning to law school in 2025 [not my previous law school and ideally a higher ranked one]. Have any of you been in this kind of situation?

For the record, I am not a poor student, but I am financially poor. As an immigrant, I am not allowed to ask for loans. I have paid out of pocket for all my education and even relied on TAP for my undergrad and grad degrees. I graduated from Harvard University with a 3.25 for my Bachelors [took 6 years] and later on with 3.69 for my Masters [took 3 years], and I have 9 years experience as a certified family law paralegal. I'm currently self-employed as an educational consultant and I prepare legal documents for low-income clients with family law cases. My hope was that I would finish law school by my late 30s so I could still commission for JAG and help military personnel going through family law cases, since military and veterans are under-represented in family law courts due to stereo-types associated with their experience, careers, and health.

I'm not saying I'm a great candidate compared to others who already hold multiple degrees and other doctorates, or those with higher LSAT scores, but this dismissal is making me doubt if future law schools would even care to consider these circumstances in conjunction with my experience and note that I am not a bad student.

At this point, is it even worth re-taking this exam and starting from scratch?

Hi, it's hard to find a straight answer as I'm seeing a lot of different info swirling around...

I'm taking the LSAT in Feb. I should get the results back by the very end of Feb. I have two applications due on March 1st. When it says the application is due on March 1st does that mean EVERYTHING is due on that date? As in, LORs, resume, writing assignments, transcripts, AND the LSAT score? In theory, if I got the LSAT score back on March 3rd is that okay or does it HAVE to be included in the application with everything else?

Hello all, any advice is appreciated! :)

My Nov. 2023 score is a 5 point drop from my Nov. 2022 score. As a result, I am contemplating writing an addendum explaining the drop in scores.

I prepared for the Nov. 2023 exam for close to a year but experienced technical glitches during the LG and fourth portion of the exam that made it difficult to focus. For reference, there was a white notification on the upper right corner of my screen that kept popping up, causing me to refocus my attention and attempt to exit out of it every time it came across my screen. After making it through LG, I attempted to just ignore it but it was still very distracting - I even asked the proctor for help and he said there was nothing he could do.

Given the drop, would you recommend an addendum explaining the situation? I take full accountability for not preparing myself better for an incident like this (tech glitches) but I thought it might be worth a shot.

I am looking to discuss with anyone who is completing or completed a program with a Hybrid Law school (ABA). This is what I am planning on doing and I have a few questions on what schools had the best online programs.

Hiii comrades! Wondering if anyone wants to collaborate on editing/proofing personal statements. I am currently in the process of drafting mine, and am thinking how helpful it would be to be able to share it with a few people and get feedback as I go. In my mind I am picturing a sort of book club, where maybe each week we rotate "partners". With your partner of the week, you would share a google doc version of your draft so far, and according to preference, either just make comments/edits on the doc, or even do like a FaceTime/zoom session where you could discuss as you read each others/brainstormed etc. If you're interested, lob a comment, and ill start figuring out a way to organize us with a google drive or something similar (:

Hello!

I wanted to ask about topics for my diversity statement to see if I could get some insight. I graduated with a BS in forensic biology and I thought it would be really interesting to write an essay about my education and how it adds a diverse perspective. Do you guys think this is appropriate? One of my mentors has suggested that I also talk about my diverse personal background as an Indian in the essay but I'm not sure if these two topics go together. Thanks!

Hi,

Would it be a good idea to list an incoming internship on a law school resume?

Hello,

I am looking for a service to review my Personal Statement primarily for grammar. I've looked online and have seen so many differing opinions as well as warnings of scams, can someone please provide me a legitimate recommendation?

Thanks!

Would anybody be able to put me in touch with someone who went to UCI Law? I am applying there and would like to ask them some questions about their experience.

Please, no discouraging comments. Honesty and insight though, much appreciated.

Great LOR's, first generation college and law student, 159 LSAT 71% score according to this cycle thus far, 3.66 GPA double major from University of Washington, trilingual, much involvement in leadership / intern opportunities during undergrad, just got placed on hold.

I understand what on hold means - that it is a status not a decision - and that there is ambiguity and patience involved no matter what.

But this really crushed my soul. Standardized tests aren't my greatest strength (not excuse, just context), but I really worked so hard and feel crushed. trying not to lose hope. I'm not one to give up but this was really the worst feeling.

Will take a tour and send a letter of continued interest, but when?

Is it worth taking the LSAT my last time in January to see if I can get above 159? I only have ten days to decide.

I respect and understand the competitive process but wow.

Any insight on UM law, placed on hold but then admitted stats, mental advice / application advise / LSAT guidance,, etc. I moved from the PNW to here for this school a few months ago, it's my dream. I don't want to relinquish that.

Hi! I'm conflicted right now because I took my LSAT in November and did not get the score I wanted. I am thinking about taking the January and/or Feb LSAT (depending on my practice test scores) but I feel like that is too late in the cycle to apply for Fall 24. Any advice, should I still apply? I already took a gap year and I feel so behind. :(

Hello!

I left my job in March 2023 due to a toxic work environment, and because I realized the specific legal field I was working in was not a good fit for me. It is now November, and I am still unemployed. I'm not sure if writing an addendum to explain this would be in my favour or not. I worry that it may be frowned upon that 1) I left a position without having secured another one, and 2) that my reason for leaving is not convincing enough.

I have done a few other things in the meantime, and have been looking for jobs in the field that I am passionate about, but I'm not sure if having any job, even one that I am not particularly passionate about is better than having no full-time job.

Any help/advice would be very appreciated :)

Thank you!

Do you think it's best to meet with admission before or after submitting your application?

As a splitter, I am curious to see if it makes sense to bring that up before or send my app and schedule my meeting for the day after.

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Hey guys! Hope everyone is doing well with studying.

I am working on my law applications right now, and wanted to see if anyone knows someone who can review my applications? I've been calling a few places but yet to receive a response.

Thank you in advance!!

Hi folks,

So, I have two letters of recommendation on file and assigned to schools. I have asked three people to write me letters, and I am still waiting on the third. I should get it this week (I would hope), but then again I also thought I would have gotten it by now.

My question is: If I submit applications now, without the third letter received (and therefore without it assigned), can I assign it to schools once I do receive it even if I have already submitted the applications for those schools? Or is it impossible for me to assign a letter to a school, so that ideally the admissions committee then looks it over at some point, if I have already submitted the application for that school?

With the utmost respect to all my fellow 7Sage users, I am not interested in advice about whether I should or shouldn't wait to submit applications until I get the third letter. I am interested in the answer to the specific question I asked. Thanks!!

Hi everyone! I am from Ontario and am applying to Canadian law schools. I got my score back from the October LSAT and it was a 154 (my first attempt). This is lower than my practice exams as I consistently score in the 160's. My question is, do you think I should cancel my score and try again in January? Also if I do the January exam will Canadian universities still consider me for admission? Thank you so much for you help, I really appreciate any advice:)

Is taking the LSAT in January and submitting my application materials too late for the Fall 2024 class?

I have been out of college for some time and really do not want to put off law school any longer so any advice is greatly appreciated. I understand it would put me at a disadvantage compared to those applying before thanksgiving but do I still have a decent shot if I score in the high 160's? I have backups that are decent in the T50s and below but ideally I would like T30 and above.

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I'm working on my apps right now. One school is asking "Have you ever been cited, charged, detained, taken into custody, or arrested for a violation of any law, statute, or ordinance, regardless of the outcome of the case? Please note this includes traffic offenses for which the penalty was a fine actually paid of $200 or more"

I have received traffic offenses, but I cannot remember if they were fines that were $200 or more. Anyone know how I can check this? Or if I should just state yes/no.

Hello! I am having a lot of difficulty writing my addendum to explain my two LSAT score cancellations. The truth is, I took the LSAT in January well before I felt prepared and cancelled that score, and then I retook it in September but panicked on the exam and performed really poorly... but I have no idea how to spin that in a compelling way and not come across like I crack under pressure... I retook the exam in October, which will be the score I'm using for my applications. Any advice on what to say in my addendum would be greatly appreciated.

**For context, I'd attended an NYU Law info session and an admissions officer said they "prefer a short addendum about multiple score cancellations." So I've been told they want it, I just have no idea what to write or how to word it...

Hi everyone. Just wanted to get your takes on the diversity statement/additional essays.

How much would it hurt me to forgo these and simply submit just my personal statement?

I have read that forcing a diversity statement is not a good idea and even though I am an international, I just can't seem to write an effective essay on the topic!

On the other hand, I am considering writing additional essays (especially the "why do you want to go to our law school" prompt) and short answer essays for my top choice schools but again is this essential?

As a final note, what's the best place to get someone to check over my personal statement? I am considering using 7sage services but alternatives are welcome.

Hi everyone! I'm wondering what folks' perspectives/ advice would be on talking about highschool extracurricular involvement within a personal statement (Part B of a two-part personal essay).

For context, I live in Canada and all schools in the province that I live in use one standardized application form. The form specifically instructs applicants to only list post-'high-school' involvement, work experience, etc. This question relates to one school in particular that I'm applying to, which has two parts to their personal essays section; Part A is open-ended and I spoke only about broader lived experience and University involvement, my vision for law school, all the basics (no specifics about highschool), and Part B, which has various question prompts, the one that I'm leaning most towards answering is, "Discuss a challenging ethical issue or a serious interpersonal conflict that you have encountered and explain how you resolved it".

The specific experience I want to talk about (being as vague as possible here) is what I learned being a student representative at the board-level during my senior year and the ethical dilemma I encountered when the board was considering a motion regarding school policies that did not align with my own views of equity/ justice and I faced public backlash from other (adult) board members for voicing the opinion of the many student constituents that I represented on the issue. I don't think this is a controversial topic but I would still frame the topic as neutrally as possible to avoid bias from the application selections committee.

Thanks for reading and any input/ advice anyone may have and best of luck to fellow November LSAT takers :)

Hello!

I took the LSAT around four years ago and failed miserably. I didn't prepare at all and didn't comprehend the exam's format, therefore I got a 139.

I had two interviews with top-20 institutions but was not accepted.

After that, I concentrated on working as a teacher while also producing music.

I was able to become a professional in the music industry that produced for celebrities, a big TV show, and a song that garnered over a million views in just a few weeks while trending on YouTube, among other things.

I am likely to have a different resume/experience than many other law school applicants, which I hope will help me.

With my LSAT and new experiences, do I have a chance of getting admitted anywhere?

I am a URM with a GPA of 3.5. I also have a 3.7 GPA in an unfinished computer science degree (few semesters left).

Aside from perhaps retaking the LSAT, I would appreciate any criticism or suggestions on what I should do.

Thank you very much.

I have taken the LSAT once in June 2023 with a very bad score and very minimal preparation, but I am planning on taking the LSAT again in Jan of 2024 after excessive studying. With this, will I be able to get into law school starting in Fall 2024?