Missed the webinar.

Did anyone join? Could someone please share what was discussed?

Hi everyone,

So I have a dilemma -- I graduated with my bachelor in July 2021. I am a non-traditional student (Finance major, started freshman year of college in 2011 and was on and off in school for about decade).

I recently decided I want to apply to law school (something I have been considering for a year or two now). Problem is, I have a low uGPA (according to LSAC). They recalculated my GPA to 2.79 (ouch). It is not what I graduated with, but due to some irresponsible early years in college, the grades screwed me. This was when I decided I wanted to be a mathematical sciences major at one point in 2012-2014, the classes did not go well.

I have NOT taken the LSAT yet, and I am scheduled for the June 2022 test.

I have always been a good standardized test taker (SAT: 1860/2400 at the time, ACT: 25 (ish), ASVAB: 97 -- (Note: did not go to military but took the test because I wanted to go at one point). I do realize, however, that the LSAT is a different beast. Not sure how I am going to do, since I opted NOT to take a diagnostic, I do not see the point personally other than potentially stressing myself out.

My target school is Florida International University (T100 school). It is somewhat local for me and they are one of the only law schools in the area with a part time program other than Nova Southeastern University (which is ranked considerably lower). I am trying to go for their part time program. I am a mom (had my son in February 2020) and it just works better for me and my life.

Any advice? I am so nervous. What type of score do you think I would need to be considered competitive?

ANY words of encouragement are greatly appreciated. This whole thing is causing me anxiety lol.

Thanks.

Hey everyone!

7Sage tutor/manager Raphael here - in this week's LSAT Digest, I discuss how to study while working full-time. Find it here: https://7sage.substack.com/p/studying-while-working-full-time?r=11qzug&s=w&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

If you could use some help on the way to your goal score and want to work with one of our LSAT tutors, use this link to learn more: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat-tutoring/

If you'd like to talk to one of our tutors before committing to a plan, schedule a free consultation at this link: https://calendly.com/7sage-consult/7sage-tutoring-free-consult

update: it was just for the LSAT writing portion, i misread :)

Hello everyone, I'm writing in June and just got an email that had a section discussing how physical scratch paper is not allowed and that the LSAC has a digital scratch paper section to type notes. I'm honestly really worried because I've been doing LG all by hand and not sure how well this will translate to the online interface...

I have dumb question that I unfortunately don't know the answer to. I am taking the lsat in either September or October. So I was wondering should I complete the whole course before I take the lsat for the first time, or should I only complete part of the course? I'm nervous that I'm going to run out of pt.

Hello,

I need some advice. I am an international student who is going through a hard time getting my transcript processed. LSAC CAS keeps rejecting my academic records without a proper explanation. Even though, I email them back, I don’t get a response. Next, I end up calling representatives and they keep giving me wrong information. As a result, I wasted a lot of money, effort and time. This is not acceptable. I am extremely stressed because of the negligence of LSAC. I don’t want to keep dealing with inefficient LSAC workers. I am missing deadlines of the universities that I wanted to apply.

If there’s some who had the same issue. Can you please tell me how did you resolve an issue? How can I make LSAC take responsibility for their actions?

I forgot my password, so I had to reset it. Now every time I try to use the new password it says login failed and it's locked me out for 20 minutes two times now. #help

I was trying to make a problem set on here using questions I got wrong on various preptests in Lawhub, but when I went to add PT 62, S2, Q18 (which in Lawhub is a SA question re: planets/solar system) it pulled up a completely different question (MBF question re: computer programming). is there a reason and/or a solution? thank youuu

Hey there,

First off all, how's your day going? I find that we all are so rushed to be hyper-productive we have a tendency to forget to check in with each other. So please do comment below or reach out if you want to have a casual conversation.

I'm writing this with an aimed target audience: Those that are carrying 100 responsibilities on their shoulders without the world really knowing. I'm sure a lot of you are lurking in the background, and that is perfectly fine. I might be wrong (hopefully) but I would guess that a big chunk of LSAT test takers are people with big dreams that come with big responsibilities and draining commitments. We commit to a lot of long hours of prep, heavy study schedules, and coffee. Don't get me wrong, I thrive on coffee and stress. Achieving what I set out for myself is what fuels me everyday and makes me happy but it isn't the easiest.

It is even harder when you have 'life things' lurking in the background. With a full-time job, I struggle with major anxiety everyday. I question if I am putting enough time into my law school dream, if I am studying enough for the LSAT. Study sessions slowly get harder and harder. It's not the easiest getting home after 9+ hours of work and spending another 3 studying. But, I promise myself it will be worth it.

I write this with one goal: To remind you (those who got this far into reading my overly lengthy post) that you are not alone. Somedays, you will see tremendous improvement in your prep and will get very happy. Other days, you will have a bad PT day, you might not be as happy but you must remind yourself that you are achieving and progressing nevertheless. Even with a bad PT score, you have the chance to see how the test tricked you and learn from it. At the end of the day, remember that the LSAT is just a game: You are just trying to find ways to trick it, as much as it is trying to trick you. You want to study the LSAT to a point where you stop falling in all the potholes the test takers hide within the test.

Regardless of all that, you just prepping for the test is an achievement of its own. It's not easy to commit to studying, and you are finding ways to do it. Prepping for the LSAT is no easy task, and can make you feel lonely and overly stressed, so please reach out to anyone whenever needed. Myself included. We are all here to see each other achieve, and screw over the LSAT as hard as it is screwing us over some days.

You have a great day, and congrats for making it this far.

F:)

When I watch JY Ping's solution videos on LG section, I am able to memorize the game boards and be able to solve the questions in given time (foolproof method). However, when I take a PT timed, I get about only 7 questions correct in the entire LG section. I usually draw a game board/game boards that are missing a few key components or simply just get stuck being unable to draw a game board for that question set. Should I try to solve LG section on my own without watching JY Ping's video and only watch it when I cannot progress further with my current knowledge of solving an LG problem set?

I am only on PT8 right now but I don't want to just keep going through the PTs without being able to solve the LG section on my own. I would like to be able to draw my own game board/game boards without having to watch JY Ping's LG videos every time. Could anyone please share your insight?

So, the last few months have been difficult for me, and made studying for the June LSAT near impossible. My job schedule has gotten worse, and the workloads have become more stressful and strenuous, and by the time I get home I'm physically exhausted and mentally drained. And that's been every single day since February, (on top of having Covid and then dealing with Long covid for almost 3 months).

With that said,

I didn't have enough time to prepare for the LSAT. I read through several chapters of some books that I was using to study, and have taken a few practice exams but I'm sure that I won't do well.

Is there anything that I can do in the next 11 or 10 days that could maybe help me do better? I do plan on leaving my job this month, so after that I'll begin preparation for re-taking the exam at sometime at the end of the year or in January.

This whole experience has been super stressful and I have major regrets.

Also, in the event that I don't like my score, what should I do? IS there a way to revoke the score so that it won't count towards the 7 time test taking limit?

It was a huge surprise to me the amount of kindness, supportiveness, and congrats I got from my last post (https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/32155/thank-you-7sage-and-free-tutor-sessions) on 7Sage. Thank you all so much for being such a fantastic community. Many people asked me what they should do to prepare for the June LSAT. It is close to the test day, so I put together five last-minute tips for all the June LSAT takers. I tried these things, and they worked to increase my score. I hope they can help others on 7Sage.

1. Rest and sleep well – I can't emphasize this enough, especially when approaching the test date. I personally learned it the hard way. Based on my observations, a fresh mind can instantly increase your score by 5 points. People read faster and retain more information with a fresh mind than with exhausted or drained brains. The tips for this are 1. don't drink caffeine after noon; 2. a solid sleep routine, including a quiet and dark environment, comfortable temperature, no screen at least 30 minutes before going to bed, and sleep early.

2. Practice logic games – in recent tests, the LG section has been fairly constant in the combination of game types, one sequencing game, two grouping games, and one hybrid game. Practice more with the LG section can help us get familiar with the game board setups and nodes to split/push out inferences. Besides, the logic game section is more independent and doesn't require much supportive knowledge like LR and RC.

3. Review your wrong LR questions – now is the time to use your wrong questions journal or log. Doing this would help avoid making the same mistakes in the actual test and decrease the stress by knowing how much improvement you have made along with the study.

4. Revisit your RC strategy – at this point, it is tough to make a significant improvement on RC because reading is such a fundamental skill that we've been practicing for years and years. It is hard to change that in a short amount of time. The good news is that the RC topics in recent tests are consistent too, including one science passage, one law passage, and two humanities passages (history, art, anthropology, paleontology, etc.)

5. Get distracted – it sounds counter-intuitive to get distracted close to the big test. And I understand all the anxiety makes the LSAT the only focus in most June test takers' lives. But the intense focus comes with more stress, making people have trouble sleeping well and even weakening their immune system. The last thing you want is to be sick on your test day. I broke the bad cycle by doing something I enjoyed and unrelated to the LSAT. Funny enough is that I even went to a Buddhist temple to calm my nerve. When I returned to the LSAT, I felt so much positivity toward the test, and my mind was refreshed. It is like the LSAT had been torturing my brain, and I rescued it by taking a break.

Of course, all the tips above are based on my and my students' experience. They don't cover all the situations. Please share your advice and wisdom below so that other LSAT takers can benefit from them. Also, if you have more questions for me, please don't hesitate to reach out by DM or leave a comment here. Best luck to all June LSAT takers. You will nail it!

Hello!

I won’t be offering any tips or tricks on the mechanics of the LSAT as that’s been covered ten times over and I don’t think I can add anything of value that hasn’t been said before. I’d love to lend a few words to everyone on here though because you all have helped me immensely in what has been a very long journey. I’ll try to keep it relatively short. First off, THANK YOU to this community, you have been a beacon in some really frustrating and quite frankly hard times. You’ve provided worthwhile advice and some levity to a really intense and drawn out process.

One thing I’ve learned in retrospect (and from my always poignant and thankfully non law school gf), that I think we all should hear…

It’s so easy to get wrapped up in this process of studying and admissions. In fact, I would venture to say that everyone in this community is an over-achiever in some way. You all care immensely about your future and that’s wonderful and what will ultimately make you all successful in your own ways. With that though comes a huge amount of pressure, whether external or self-imposed. So, if I could offer one final piece of advice, it would be this:

Breathe. Find time, as best you can, to live life outside of the LSAT/admissions bubble. It’s a fantastic place with truly amazing people trying to help one another, but you have to find the time to take your dog for a walk, to go on that date, to call your mom, to watch your favorite movie, to smile at the sunset. The moment that I really started living my life again in conjunction with thoughtful, intentional studying, was the moment that I started performing my best on this test (not that that should be the main motivation for doing it).

So hustle, study hard, put in the time, but it’s equally important to exhale, to think about something else, something silly and inconsequential, to put away that prep book, to allow yourself to ignore the newest medians for a day, to close that reddit tab and remember that there’s more to this world than the LSAT and law school.

Don’t let life happen without you while going through this journey because I promise you, nothing is worth losing yourself, even for a moment. This test and process are truly a give and take, and sometimes the harder you force it, the more it will push back against you too.

I hope this helps even a little bit and thank you all again for providing a great space for the past few years!

Oh, and big shout out to Chris Ngyuen and jmarmaduke for being great tutors and guides, as well as EmmaJean Holley for being a fantastic and lovely writing coach.

-Best,

David

So I just took the LSAT writing. I think I entered the period of my last sentence right when the time exhausts. And I am not sure whether I put that period on my last sentence.

This starts to haunt me... Should I take the LSAT writing again? Does missing the period of the last sentence affect my application?

Damn.

I'm studying for the second time and I am scheduled to take again in August. I haven't taken a full LSAT since I tested and got a 151 in November (it was v rough). I'm going through the CC again and just finished strengthening. Should I take a full PT or should I just get through the CC and then PT?

Took PT 90 on LawHub today, found there was already an experimental LR section in that. For those you have taken PT 91,92 on LawHub, are the experimental sections different in each of them or is it just 2 LR sections in both?

Don't want to know the exact experimental sections in 91 and 92 - please don't comment - like to stimulate real testing conditions, request anyone to commenting to just tell if there are different sections or just 2 LR in both. If its only LR in both, I will take a different (LG/RC) on 7sage to stimulate the random experimental, so asking for that purpose.

Wondering if there are any other paralegals/legal assistants here? I work full time at a law firm so I’m taking my studying slowly. I definitely think it’s an advantage to start out your journey as a paralegal but also it’s hard to find time to study.

Hello! I am looking to apply this fall for the Fall 2023 cycle, ideally in October as suggested by a lot of discussions. I am planning on taking the LSAT in either September or October, or both. I started studying at the beginning of May and have seen hopeful progress!

I would like some advice—do I take the LSAT in September and sign up for October just in case, or do I wait until October to sign up for the first time and sign up for November just in case?

I’m thinking of signing up for 2 just because I want to have my application in as soon as possible and if I don’t do so well on the first one (though positive thinking—I’m gonna kill it), I can take the second one and still apply during the earlier part of the application cycles.

I started studying for the LSAT in early April of this year, scored a 145 diagnostic. I have gone through the curriculum and now my Practice Test high is a 153. I am planning to sit for the August or September test. Any advice on how to spend the next 3/3 1/2 months? I am studying full time.

I have improved my LG from -17 (April 1)->-11 (today); RC -16 (April 1) ->-10 (today); LR -15 (April 1)->-8 (today)

I am doing the Logic Game repetition and fool-proofing method and am currently taking 2 PTs a week and doing 1-2 individual timed sections in between.

What do the percentages mean when you hover over the answer choice column while Reviewing Results of practice problems you did. Are these the percentages of people that got them right the first time around (timed)? Or are these blind review percentages? They are very high for the correct answer choices (90% and up) then the incorrect answer choices have very low number like 2%, 6%, 12%, etc. I was wondering if that many people are getting these questions right when they do these problems the first time, timed, around because I get a lot wrong.

Hey y'all!

Because of the success of our other live classes, I'm excited to announce that I'll be teaching a 10-week LSAT course starting June 8th!

We will meet every Wednesday from 7pm-8pm EST. Not only will we be going over key strategies for each section of the test, I'll also be providing each student with homework, drills, and a study plan! If you want some guidance, structure, and accountability for your LSAT journey, this class is perfect for you!

The classes will be held weekly from June 8th to August 10th over zoom. The class is limited to 16 students - first come, first served.

To sign up, visit this link: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat-live-class/

If you have any questions about the course, feel free to post it down below. I'm looking forward to working with each of you to get ready for test day!

I'm currently in a bit of a rut or rather a major one. I'd been at the point where -3 on every sections was fairly normal but now my LR and RC have dropped to -6 on average. I'm wondering why,I took one week off but now even after 2 weeks back I am still no where near where I was before. Honestly don't know whats going on here anyone got any tips of what to do to get myself out of this rut?

Hey 7Sagers,

This will hopefully be my last month with this service as I am taking my LSAT in June and hopefully will be a one-and-done taker. I started my LSAT prep last year in May and got a 147 on my Diagnostic, after religiously taking the CC for over 5 months, along with crucial advice that I got from @"Scott Milam" in the past few months, my average PT recently has been above a 170, even though I was only targeting a 163 when I first started. I cannot thank this service enough for the help it has given a student who just a year ago thought I would NEVER be able to go to law school, and now looking to go to even higher ranked schools outside of Canada if I can get a solid score in June.

Thank you to all the people that messaged me with advice, had study groups with me, and most importantly I cannot ever thank Scott and JY enough for the help they have given me over the past year.

Once a 7Sager Always a 7Sager.

Hi everybody,

I'm considering retaking in June or August (or later, if necessary) after scoring a 168 on the April test. The 168 was lower than my practice test score average, a 172, leading up to the exam.

I had a mental meltdown during the logic games section of the April test and wouldn't be surprised if almost all of my incorrect answers were in that section. Given this, I believe I can increase my score by at least a few more points, as I'm working on shoring up my logic games skills and focusing on developing better mental resilience through meditation, but am concerned about scoring lower on a retake.

I've heard that law schools only care about your highest LSAT score. Is that true? Would scoring a few points lower on a retake look bad to an admissions committee or do they, for the purpose of admissions, truly only care about one's highest score? I've searched online (both on these forums and elsewhere) but have seen conflicting answers to these questions. Any insight is appreciated. Thanks.

Does anyone have any advice that helped them understand how to solve the logic games? Every time I think I've made progress on certain problems, I get stuck.