Looking for advice on whether I should send GRE or LSAT. If I send GRE, I would cancel my LSAT score.

Me: I attended an Ivy League school and graduated magna cum laude. I work in a gov. job with name recognition. I have been out of school for five years. I think I have a compelling story and am a POC. Standardized testing has never been my strong suit, but I think my GPA/awards show I can succeed in a demanding academic environment. I also took a law course at the T-14 law school during my undergrad. Hoping to pursue a public interest law career.

LSAT: 158

GRE: Verbal (164, 94th), Quant (154, 47th), Writing: 5 (91st)

I'm open to retesting in January, but because I'm working full-time I want to be realistic about how much I can improve.

My read of recent news is that schools are starting to move away from weighing standardized test scores as highly as they have in the past. Seems like there is interest in recruiting more diverse candidates interested in public service. Wondering if these factors might also sway my calculus.

What would you do?

My November Lsat score was 157 (did not expect to get this). This would put me at 65 percentile.

What do you guys think my chances for Ontario schools are? Given the smaller applicant pool this year.

Ive applied to Windsor dual, Queens, Western, Osgoode, Ryerson(TMU), Ottawa.

Personally I think id be good for Windsor and Western maybe.

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I just got my oct lsat back and sadly it was quite lower than my goal score. I was able to get 170+ for my PTs in the weeks leading up to my LSAT but somehow on the real thing I just really underperformed. I also had many issues with ProctorU and it really made me lose my focus during the exam, which I think largely contributed to my performance.

Since I’m international there’s no Nov LSAT so the next one I have is Jan. It’s my last chance for this cycle and I really want to do well. Can I please have advice on how I should move forward? I took a break since the oct lsat until the score release and I'm ready to get back at it!! I’m thinking of doing a full PT per day but I’m not sure if this is the right path? I’ve done all of the exam questions on 7sage since 2000 in drill form and PT70+ in full PT form) so I’m also hoping I don’t remember any answers.

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Hi, is there a way I can select specific PT from the drill section? Im trying to do PT53 but I don't see specific section for PT53. Is the only way to take the prep test in the lesson section?

For the Northwestern application they have a section that asks, "What are your career interest(s) immediately after law school?" and "What are your long-term career goals?"

I have my interests, but I have no concrete ideas about what exactly I'll be doing after graduation. There is an option to leave this section blank. Will not having an answer put me at a disadvantage? Or at least be looked down upon?

Hi former 7sage subscriber to LSAT resources, which helped me get into Pepperdine Law ! I was wondering if anyone who has taken immigration law would mind sending me their outline and/or notes? This is the first time my school is offering this course, so I'm struggling to find an immigration law outline to help guide my studying and my own outline. Would appreciate it so much thanks.

I have thought a lot , over the past year, about the finitude of official lsat questions published by lsac, and the finitude of practice tests. i think theres only 92 or 93 prep tests. What happens if i run out of all of these before I arrive at my goal scores? I have tried to "pretend to forget" how to play certain games , but it doesnt work. i immediately remember how to play the game, the major inferences etc. same thing with logical reasoning questions. even if i havent seen the question in 8 months, i immediately remember the right answer. this is a bad feeling because i didnt earn the right answer. and its a terrible way to get a ballpark diagnostic in my opinion. and its also bad preparation for my REAL test, where i will be faced with all new games and questions.

how do you approach the reality of finite lsat prep test resources? manhattan prep creates bunches of logic games from scratch which is cool, but does anything like that exist for logical reasoning? do any companies create logical reasoning questions that i can try to solve with fresh eyes?

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Hey all,

I took a diagnostic a few months ago and have taken maybe 4 PTs total. I am in no rush to take PTs but take a PT when I am too bored of CC.

One of my problems is I can't finish more than ~12 Qs per timed section (minus LG lol I finish way less here). A month ago my PT score was 135 --> 151 BR, and yesterday it was 132 --> 152 BR. I'm not happy with either, as my goal is 170 and hope to take the LSAT July 2023. I also work part-time and have obligations, so I study/review CC every other day for ~ 3 hours.

My questions are: is it normal to see very slow change? Should I focus on and complete CC before taking PTs? It's also hard to find motivation when I'm sucking so hard. Any and all advice welcome (3(/p)

Hi everyone,

I'm a 173 scorer (4 months of study) and now tutoring students part-time. I offered a bunch of pro-bono tutoring this month and had a great response with almost to two dozen sessions.

I'm offering up some more sessions to help people get their studying on the right track. If you have questions about how to use your time effectively, building strategies for specific sections, or anything else big-picture LSAT study - feel free to reach out.

You got this (3(/p)

Hey everyone, i'm currently scoring in the low to mid 160's and i'm aiming to increase it to the upper 160's. I always BR there and definitely think it's possible. However, I have a limited amount of prep tests and only 10 weeks til my test. For those who overcame this hurdle, can you give some advice on what you did differently or started doing that got you there. Whether it is new drills, how you started approaching certain sections, study tips, etc.. I'm open to any suggestion and would highly appreciate it!

Hi everyone!

I just started the curriculum about 2 weeks ago. Right now, I am finishing up the Main Point and Conclusion section, and I was wondering when would be a good time to begin taking full length Practice Tests. Should I wait a while longer until I get past some of the other logic sections, or jump right in?

I've been plateauing in the low 160s - mid 160s for almost 6months. I went through all the popular prep books and have started re-reading them recently to check if I missed any fundamentals. To be honest, I think I am weak in all three sections. Usually, when I drill (timed mode), I don't get as many questions wrong as I do in PTs. For example, when I recycle my old PTs, including those I don't even remember the questions, I usually get 0-2 wrong in games, 3-5 wrong in LR, and 4-6 wrong in the RC. For the PTs I do remember, I tend to score better.

Whenever I try new PTs, the problem is that my score always returns to the low 160s. I missed so many questions that I think I could have gotten right. Recently, I get around 160-164 as scaled score while my blind review score is around low 170s. I feel extremely pressured when solving new PTs, but I don't know why this is constantly happening. Is it just because I didn't practice enough? I get disappointed in myself every day and feel totally lost. What should I do to break out of this endless plateau?

I heard that the Logic Games would be removed in 2023, does anyone know which month or if this is even true? I plan to take my LSAT in February and have been studying for a whole year. I always get -0 on LG and it is my best section that allows me to get a good score after months and months of foolproofing. I read some sources saying June 2023 and some saying January 2023, but also all the sources I read were from 2019 so i'm not even sure if they're accurate. Please lmk if you have any info on this.

So in the last 3 weeks (after 3 months of diligently studying the 7sage CC) I have scored the following:

89: 166 | 80: 164 | 62: 178 | 69: 172 | 82: 167

..aand I'm officially freaked out that the LR wording changes/increased difficulty beginning in the 80s are throwing me, as my RC and LG are both a lot more consistent ( RC -2-4ish and LG -0-2). Has anyone else noticed this in their scores and, if so, what did you do to try to counteract? Since PT80 I've been prioritizing wrong answer journaling, which feels like it's helping a lot, but perhaps to the detriment of more consistent drilling? I'm taking January and would obviously love to crack the elusive 17x barrier in ten weeks. I've been saving the 80s and 90s for the home stretch - but any advice is welcome before I trudge onwards.. #help

Every time I complete a drill it never shows me the answers. 7 sage can you please provide instructions on what I'm supposed to click after I completed the last question?

Has anyone ever gotten an exception to the three test per year rule and took it a fourth time?

I took diagnostic test 2 months ago, 151

I took 1st prep test 2 weeks ago, 149

I took 2nd prep test 2 weeks ago, 152,

I took 3rd prep test today, 153

My goal is 165. I was always super excited to take prep tests, because I felt i learned a lot and would expect significant improvement. but the results were always disappointing.

Anyone has similar experiences? In 3 months, there is very little progress if any. Is this typical?

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Hi all,

I would love some advice from the community on when to take my first actual LSAT. I work full time, so I’ve been working through the CC for the past 3 months. I just took my first PT since the diagnostic, and I actually got my goal score, which I’m sure I can improve on. Of course I need to keep PTing to be sure I can maintain the score, but assuming I can do that over the course of 3-4 weeks….

I’m trying to decide whether to sign up for 1/2022 or 2/2022; I don’t plan to apply until the next cycle. I’m torn between wanting to keep up momentum for January, or continuing to PT until February and doing the best I possibly could, though I’d risk losing some momentum…

What do others think is the right timeline?

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