Hey y'all!

Because of the success of our other live classes, I'm excited to announce that I'll be teaching a 10-week LSAT course starting June 8th!

We will meet every Wednesday from 7pm-8pm EST. Not only will we be going over key strategies for each section of the test, I'll also be providing each student with homework, drills, and a study plan! If you want some guidance, structure, and accountability for your LSAT journey, this class is perfect for you!

The classes will be held weekly from June 8th to August 10th over zoom. The class is limited to 16 students - first come, first served.

To sign up, visit this link: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat-live-class/

If you have any questions about the course, feel free to post it down below. I'm looking forward to working with each of you to get ready for test day!

When I watch JY Ping's solution videos on LG section, I am able to memorize the game boards and be able to solve the questions in given time (foolproof method). However, when I take a PT timed, I get about only 7 questions correct in the entire LG section. I usually draw a game board/game boards that are missing a few key components or simply just get stuck being unable to draw a game board for that question set. Should I try to solve LG section on my own without watching JY Ping's video and only watch it when I cannot progress further with my current knowledge of solving an LG problem set?

I am only on PT8 right now but I don't want to just keep going through the PTs without being able to solve the LG section on my own. I would like to be able to draw my own game board/game boards without having to watch JY Ping's LG videos every time. Could anyone please share your insight?

So, the last few months have been difficult for me, and made studying for the June LSAT near impossible. My job schedule has gotten worse, and the workloads have become more stressful and strenuous, and by the time I get home I'm physically exhausted and mentally drained. And that's been every single day since February, (on top of having Covid and then dealing with Long covid for almost 3 months).

With that said,

I didn't have enough time to prepare for the LSAT. I read through several chapters of some books that I was using to study, and have taken a few practice exams but I'm sure that I won't do well.

Is there anything that I can do in the next 11 or 10 days that could maybe help me do better? I do plan on leaving my job this month, so after that I'll begin preparation for re-taking the exam at sometime at the end of the year or in January.

This whole experience has been super stressful and I have major regrets.

Also, in the event that I don't like my score, what should I do? IS there a way to revoke the score so that it won't count towards the 7 time test taking limit?

Hello! I am looking to apply this fall for the Fall 2023 cycle, ideally in October as suggested by a lot of discussions. I am planning on taking the LSAT in either September or October, or both. I started studying at the beginning of May and have seen hopeful progress!

I would like some advice—do I take the LSAT in September and sign up for October just in case, or do I wait until October to sign up for the first time and sign up for November just in case?

I’m thinking of signing up for 2 just because I want to have my application in as soon as possible and if I don’t do so well on the first one (though positive thinking—I’m gonna kill it), I can take the second one and still apply during the earlier part of the application cycles.

I'm studying for the second time and I am scheduled to take again in August. I haven't taken a full LSAT since I tested and got a 151 in November (it was v rough). I'm going through the CC again and just finished strengthening. Should I take a full PT or should I just get through the CC and then PT?

Took PT 90 on LawHub today, found there was already an experimental LR section in that. For those you have taken PT 91,92 on LawHub, are the experimental sections different in each of them or is it just 2 LR sections in both?

Don't want to know the exact experimental sections in 91 and 92 - please don't comment - like to stimulate real testing conditions, request anyone to commenting to just tell if there are different sections or just 2 LR in both. If its only LR in both, I will take a different (LG/RC) on 7sage to stimulate the random experimental, so asking for that purpose.

any engineer/math majors who found it terribly difficult to do LG on computer-based test, and were able to get into 17x on computer-based lsat official administration?

how exactly do you work on lg on paper for every answer choice?

it seems much more difficult than LG during paper-based test days, as most if not almost all answer choices need transcribing on paper to be worked on.

earlier the answer choices were already on paper, so one could just draw on their top or check them against own diagram on paper.

i find it almost impossible now.

i have taken LSAT before during its paper-based days and have a 17x score, which is now expiring, and need retake.

LG was almost perfect for me on paper in 35 min.

but i have taken PT several times on computer now and it's much worse.

So I just took the LSAT writing. I think I entered the period of my last sentence right when the time exhausts. And I am not sure whether I put that period on my last sentence.

This starts to haunt me... Should I take the LSAT writing again? Does missing the period of the last sentence affect my application?

Damn.

I started studying for the LSAT in early April of this year, scored a 145 diagnostic. I have gone through the curriculum and now my Practice Test high is a 153. I am planning to sit for the August or September test. Any advice on how to spend the next 3/3 1/2 months? I am studying full time.

I have improved my LG from -17 (April 1)->-11 (today); RC -16 (April 1) ->-10 (today); LR -15 (April 1)->-8 (today)

I am doing the Logic Game repetition and fool-proofing method and am currently taking 2 PTs a week and doing 1-2 individual timed sections in between.

Hello!

I won’t be offering any tips or tricks on the mechanics of the LSAT as that’s been covered ten times over and I don’t think I can add anything of value that hasn’t been said before. I’d love to lend a few words to everyone on here though because you all have helped me immensely in what has been a very long journey. I’ll try to keep it relatively short. First off, THANK YOU to this community, you have been a beacon in some really frustrating and quite frankly hard times. You’ve provided worthwhile advice and some levity to a really intense and drawn out process.

One thing I’ve learned in retrospect (and from my always poignant and thankfully non law school gf), that I think we all should hear…

It’s so easy to get wrapped up in this process of studying and admissions. In fact, I would venture to say that everyone in this community is an over-achiever in some way. You all care immensely about your future and that’s wonderful and what will ultimately make you all successful in your own ways. With that though comes a huge amount of pressure, whether external or self-imposed. So, if I could offer one final piece of advice, it would be this:

Breathe. Find time, as best you can, to live life outside of the LSAT/admissions bubble. It’s a fantastic place with truly amazing people trying to help one another, but you have to find the time to take your dog for a walk, to go on that date, to call your mom, to watch your favorite movie, to smile at the sunset. The moment that I really started living my life again in conjunction with thoughtful, intentional studying, was the moment that I started performing my best on this test (not that that should be the main motivation for doing it).

So hustle, study hard, put in the time, but it’s equally important to exhale, to think about something else, something silly and inconsequential, to put away that prep book, to allow yourself to ignore the newest medians for a day, to close that reddit tab and remember that there’s more to this world than the LSAT and law school.

Don’t let life happen without you while going through this journey because I promise you, nothing is worth losing yourself, even for a moment. This test and process are truly a give and take, and sometimes the harder you force it, the more it will push back against you too.

I hope this helps even a little bit and thank you all again for providing a great space for the past few years!

Oh, and big shout out to Chris Ngyuen and jmarmaduke for being great tutors and guides, as well as EmmaJean Holley for being a fantastic and lovely writing coach.

-Best,

David

Wondering if there are any other paralegals/legal assistants here? I work full time at a law firm so I’m taking my studying slowly. I definitely think it’s an advantage to start out your journey as a paralegal but also it’s hard to find time to study.

Hello, hello, hello 7Sagers!

I'm very excited to announce that I will be teaching another ten-week LSAT course. If you're looking to master key LSAT concepts and strategies with the help of real, live 7Sage tutor, this is the course for you!

We will be meeting once per week for an hour at a time, and along the way I will be providing you with homework, drills, and a study plan so that you don't have to do any guesswork in preparing for this test. This course is perfect for anyone who is looking for a little more structure in their LSAT journey, with help along the way from study buddies and a teacher who knows what it takes to climb all the way to a 180.

The class will be limited to a total of SIXTEEN students, and sign-up is on a first-come, first-served basis. We will be beginning on Saturday, June 18th from 11am to noon EST and continue weekly until August 20th!

To sign up, visit this link: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat-live-class/

For any questions, feel free to comment below and I'll be sure to answer!

[I am posting on behalf of a 7Sage user. Please feel free to leave your comments below. Thank you so much for your help!]

I have a question, do you think it would be beneficial to do all four sections on a prep test since the LSAT brought back the experimental section, or do you think I should stick with simulating the modern LSAT?

https://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/administrative/legal_education_and_admissions_to_the_bar/council_reports_and_resolutions/may22/22-may-memo-revisions-501-503.pdf

Well that’s crazy. What does everyone think?

Hey 7Sagers,

This will hopefully be my last month with this service as I am taking my LSAT in June and hopefully will be a one-and-done taker. I started my LSAT prep last year in May and got a 147 on my Diagnostic, after religiously taking the CC for over 5 months, along with crucial advice that I got from @"Scott Milam" in the past few months, my average PT recently has been above a 170, even though I was only targeting a 163 when I first started. I cannot thank this service enough for the help it has given a student who just a year ago thought I would NEVER be able to go to law school, and now looking to go to even higher ranked schools outside of Canada if I can get a solid score in June.

Thank you to all the people that messaged me with advice, had study groups with me, and most importantly I cannot ever thank Scott and JY enough for the help they have given me over the past year.

Once a 7Sager Always a 7Sager.

I'm currently in a bit of a rut or rather a major one. I'd been at the point where -3 on every sections was fairly normal but now my LR and RC have dropped to -6 on average. I'm wondering why,I took one week off but now even after 2 weeks back I am still no where near where I was before. Honestly don't know whats going on here anyone got any tips of what to do to get myself out of this rut?

Does anyone have any advice that helped them understand how to solve the logic games? Every time I think I've made progress on certain problems, I get stuck.

Hi everyone! I’m finally done with the LSAT and have to thank this community, but especially my tutor. I started out with a low diagnostic score and slowly worked my way up, till I was PTing an average of +170s, scoring a 169 on the April 2022. Still deciding on whether or not I should retake, but I wanted to say that I could not have done any of this without my tutor, @"Chris Nguyen"

I have struggled immensely with this test and experience extremely intense anxiety, too. Chris could not have been more understanding. He not only recognized my anxiety, but in doing so, it pushed me overcome my fear of the LSAT. He helped me master the substantive content of the test and refine my test taking techniques. What I truly appreciated was that he was never discouraging, extremely patient, clearly cared about my success, and worked really hard to try and answer all of my very incisive questions. He understood exactly where I was coming from, and he worked with me to move forward. Seriously, Chris, THANK YOU!!

If y’all need a tutor, I CANNOT recommend him enough.

Hi everybody,

I'm considering retaking in June or August (or later, if necessary) after scoring a 168 on the April test. The 168 was lower than my practice test score average, a 172, leading up to the exam.

I had a mental meltdown during the logic games section of the April test and wouldn't be surprised if almost all of my incorrect answers were in that section. Given this, I believe I can increase my score by at least a few more points, as I'm working on shoring up my logic games skills and focusing on developing better mental resilience through meditation, but am concerned about scoring lower on a retake.

I've heard that law schools only care about your highest LSAT score. Is that true? Would scoring a few points lower on a retake look bad to an admissions committee or do they, for the purpose of admissions, truly only care about one's highest score? I've searched online (both on these forums and elsewhere) but have seen conflicting answers to these questions. Any insight is appreciated. Thanks.

I started LSAT with 144, then I was stuck at 154-155. I remember drilling LG for 6 months still getting -6/-7, started with -16. Thoughts were coming into my mind. Was this the end of it? Was I mentally limited? Then I came across this book "Genius in all of us"- free downloadable. This book I found out from 7sage users scoring 170s. I read it and learned brain can reshape. So, I said to myself, well maybe I do not have a head start, but if a restructuring in a brain is required then let it be. I started pushing myself more and more in a hope to catch a break. Eventually, I did. I started hitting -0 LG and then eventually -0 in 30 minutes. Next up was LR, Again I stumbled. Stuck at -10, why could not I do it asking myself. One word change in a stimulus is the flaw, darn is that even possible? After 3-4 months of straight drilling along with JY reviews and Manhattan prep review, I went down to -3 consistent, started with -17. In my real LSAT, Term shift showed up and I laughed after catching it. Next was RC. I could not even understand the passages. I said to myself can anyone? Obviously, I learned the hard way, I was the dumb one. Being a science background, I had it easy with those, but Law and Art/humanity remained a challenge. I did 7sage law preview 3 months along with RC and defined most recurrent words. Law passage and science passage became easy. Art did not and I screwed that passage in the real test also, but ultimately, went from 144 to high 160s on practice. I did get in 160s on real also. Ultimately, self learning is probably not the most efficient, however, doable. Tutor may cut the time significantly. Either way, if you are in a position I was, read the book, empower your mind, fall get up, fall get up, do it 500 times if it needs, probably will need if going into 170 (given 99 tests), but change the dam brain if needed and get what you want.

I studied LSAT for about 11 months in span of 13 months.

After studying 15-20 hours a week for the last three and a half months I feel like I am just going through the motions with tests/review and not getting much out of them. What is a good strategy to get back to it!

Hey y'all!

This week's LSAT Tips is out-- this week I talked about three misconceptions about the LSAT. You can read it here: https://7sage.substack.com/p/three-lies-about-the-lsat?s=w

I hope this week's newsletter is helpful!

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Considering the following LSATs will be given online, do you all have any tips on how to annotate while you read? A common strategy is to write short summaries in each paragraph but how can we do that online? Thanks for the help!

I would like to ask this before I begin taking PTs consistently. I know that there is an option to take 3 sections of the PT as opposed to all 4 due to the changing of the scoring of the tests. Yet, when I am studying is it better to take all 4 sections? Thank you in advance

I decided not to work this summer to study full time for the test with hopes to take the exam in August. How many hours can I realistically study in a day without burn out? Right now I am doing about six hours a day. Is anyone else in a similar position? Advice? Thank you!