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Hello, I'm wondering if I should still take the Feb test even though my PT scores are not near my goal yet. I fluctuate between 170 and 160 and I would like to be consistently 172/173. I'm planning to apply in a year or two. Should I take the Feb test?

For reference, I took august flex and got 162. Then have been just studying since. Not sure if it's worth it to take Feb when I can just move it to April and be more ready by then?

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Specifically, I am looking at PT 68.S2.Q23, the second sentence: "We must therefore reject Tolstoy's rash claim that if we knew a lot about the events leading up to any action, we would cease to regard that action as freely performed").

So that would be diagrammed out as:

Not (know about events ---> ~freely performed)

Which I was told turns into:

(Know about events ---> freely performed)

My question is a theoretical one, and that is: WHY do you negate a conditional by introducing the sufficient and denying the necessary?

2 follow up questions:

  • (Theory) Why is it incorrect to say when you negate a conditional, the sufficient could OR could not lead to the necessary?
  • Is there is this lesson in the CC (negating a conditional?) I could not find it.
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    I first took the LSAT January 2020 and made a 161. I retook last month and only made a 163. I've devastated that I only increased 2 points after studying so hard while working full time which is extremely challenging. My average PT score leading up to the exam was a 168 so I'm especially disappointed and surprised by how little I improved. Not sure where to go from here.

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    What a freaking journey!!!! I just wanted to say thank you so much to 7Sage. I received my January score, I got a 164!!!! I could not be happier. Literally a 27 point increase from my first diagnostic exam! Wow! This test prep seriously changed the game for me and I am so grateful! Please keep doing what you're doing. A few pieces of unsolicited advice to anyone currently studying:

    Logic Games:

    This was my worst section turned favorite. Folks are not lying, it is literally the most learnable section. Put in the work and you will see how repetitive they are. I would do a game of varying difficulty every morning for months like morning sudoku. It worked. I was consistently receiving (-2/-1) after not understanding a thing about logic games before.

    Logical Reasoning:

    This was second best for me. This section had the most variance in difficulty, but was most interesting to study. All weakening questions are not made equal lmao. But after each PT, I would count the top 3 question types I got wrong and drill those types from the 90s and early 00s prep tests. I would say study the concepts, but mostly practice pays off here. I think you just gain a hunch of what the right answer is after a while and then if you don't see your hunch, choose the next best thing, then pray lol. Oooo also, JY has an AWESOME video about LR, where he makes an analogy about a fruit tree. Questions 1-10 are low hanging fruit, 11-20 are a bit of work and 21-25 are the high reaching fruit. That helped me strategize this section more efficiently.

    Reading Comp:

    Also known as, I hate everything about this section lol. I tried everything, I read the Economist, psychology and scientific articles, daily meditation lol. But this section to me comes down to prep with a bit of luck. Some passages are just more interesting than others to you on that particular day. The best advice I could give is to FOCUS, do reading comp when you are most alert during the day and convince yourself that you care about what you are reading! When it hit home to me that each passage was literally 4 paragraphs, I was like "OH! This really isn't that much information," I stopped taking notes and highlighting and retained all the info in my head. If there was a definitive structure to the passage, I would make note of that or if I saw an obvious view point, I would highlight. But most things in RC I found were underlying and unstated. This worked for me. I noticed the most jump when I stopped reading to answer questions and started reading just to understand.

    Most important thing I did was to try to enjoy the process. This sh*t is hard. Celebrate every win. I kept a folder on my computer of every hard question I got right or a 10/10 on a hard drill or even when I was impressed by how clever a question was. It helped me to build my confidence. Literally you have to nerd out guys and give in to this process. Again, you got this! Your hard work will pat off! See you on the other side. (3(/p)

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    Last comment wednesday, feb 03 2021

    Thank you 7SAGE!!!

    I have a similar story to a post I just saw. Studied on and off for two years. Stress, anxiety, and lack of confidence really delayed my progress. Best advice is to keep on going. Admittedly, I didn't do things the right way but it worked out in the end. For example, I've only taken 4 full length timed exams. I scored a 156 on my first exam back in November, and opened up a 164 today. My advice is keep on working. I did each logic game published at least two times. Completed about 60% of all RC passages, and completed 4,013 of 4,831 LR questions. Let me know if you'd like any suggestions for each section, I'm more than happy to help!

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    Last comment wednesday, feb 03 2021

    15 point increase on the LSAT

    I want to preface by saying that I don't advise this method, but I was short for time.

    I completed the 7sage core curriculum in about 2.5 months. Took 9 prep test before sitting the January 2021 LSAT. Saw my score go up by 15 points. I didn't quite hit the average I was hitting in my BR which was usually around 162, but still got a pretty damn good score. I guess my message is if you totally sellout and commit to doing better you will. I had a Mamba like mentality, I was literally obsessed with the test and it paid off. Keep grinding remember you're the catch and this test does not define you.

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    Last comment wednesday, feb 03 2021

    Score Goal

    Hey everyone, this may be an odd post but I needed to get it out there since reading through different peoples goals/expectations can be taxing and pretty daunting. "If I don't apply at this time I have no shot, if I don't get this score with my GPA I have no shot" etc., you get the point. So I currently work at a law firm and pretty much have a solid job opportunity post Law School. So I don't need a 170 + to even have a chance and care to apply to schools, nor do I absolutely have to get a scholarship in any way. I'm actually aiming for the more realistic score of around 153-155 which would allow me to attend a school close to me, Philadelphia area and still work if I'm able. It's not a must. So I would appreciate any tips on what I should really go heavy on with drilling etc. to get in that score range. I'm currently scoring around 146 but just need that extra bump. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks everyone!

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    Hi- I'm new to 7sage so sorry if this question is obvious or already been answered. For about a month I have been working off of physical PTs and scoring them myself/ blind reviewing. Now that I have recently subscribed to 7sage I'm hoping to take advantage of the analytics by entering which questions I got right and wrong on these tests. Is there a way I can do this? Thanks.

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    Last comment tuesday, feb 02 2021

    Last minute freakout

    Hi everyone. I just need to express this to people who might understand. I keep having minor but frequent freak outs about doing worse on this LSAT than in November. I also can't find much information on what happens if you get a lower score your second time except what I have already read on a previous post about schools just choosing the highest of the two scores to evaluate but it still gives me so much anxiety.

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    Last comment tuesday, feb 02 2021

    Cancelling

    How much does cancelling really hurt your application? I cancelled my first score and got a 171 on my second, but I am hoping to take it again to improve my chances at getting into a top tier school (Harvard, Columbia, UChicago). If I were to take it and cancel again, how much could that hurt my application? What about if I got a lower score on my third one?

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    Last comment tuesday, feb 02 2021

    PrepTest 81

    Did anyone else have a seriously deflating experience with PrepTest 81? I maintained the same overall score as usual, but I did MUCH worse on my LR and RC (typically my better sections) than normal and did better on LG than normal (where my score is usually bad). I take the real thing in 3 weeks and could really use some encouragement in the meantime

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    So I recently retook my LSAT and so have an opportunity to retake the LSAT writing. I was pretty happy with my argument and answers to the first LSAT writing prompt, but finished my conclusion with only a few seconds remaining and wasn't able to correct several mispellings and one word confusion at the very top of the first paragraph ("sight" instead of "site"). I know that one or even two mispellings are not a big deal, reviewers know the prompt is strictly timed, but several and a word confusion concerned me a little, especially since we are provided with automatic spell check. In your opinion is this something that is worth retaking the LSAT writing for? Why/why not?

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    So a lot of people seem to get through their questions quickly and then go back to check/confirm/unflag numerous answers later.

    my question is: why not make sure you got them right the first time before moving on? (without getting too fixated on any particulsr question)

    I imagine if you have time to go back and check more than 3 flagged or skipped answers in total, you're moving too fast, skimming answer choices etc.

    for arguments sake, I finish sections on time and go -2 (good day/section) to -4 (bad day/ section)

    Admin note: edited title for clarity

    Great discussion here! We edited the title for clarity to get this thread more exposure.

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    Could someone point me to a page listing how we can best simulate LSAT flex testing environment? (specifically -- breaks, what kind of scratch paper/whiteboards, etc.) I googled & found only proctoring software + sections changes, so anything a little more comprehensive would be super helpful. Thanks so much!

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    Last comment monday, feb 01 2021

    MacBook/ Ipad

    Although my password is same, my IPad is not syncing with all the work completed on my MacBook. Even IPad’s avatar is a default while my MacBook avatar is my selected avatar. Even needed to redo all work so my IPad to match MacBook yet when I go back to MacBook, don’t wish to redo work from IPad. Is there a way to sync both devices?

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    Hi folks,

    I've started to blind review with the practice tests, and I'm a bit confused on what PTs to blind review with. I've done the first 4 PTs, and they're going well, but I've heard that the later, more recent PTs are more representative of the question types and difficulty I could expect on test day. Does anyone have any thoughts as to whether to start at the very beginning of the tests, or to jump ahead and start PT'ing with the more recent tests? Thank you so much!

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    Hey everyone, I just wanted to echo what others have said about 7Sage. It has been an immense help during my struggle with this test! There were times I thought I could not get over this hurdle. I was crushed, I had anxiety, I thought my dreams of attending law school would never be realized. It too every ounce of resolve to defeat this test once and for all.

    You know it's tough, for others on the outside to comprehend what we all put ourselves through. The stress is real and you all understand that! I cannot thank you guys in the community enough for helping me through this. I am usually a lurker, and do not post often like so many of you, but it has nevertheless been amazing to be surrounded by so many dedicated individuals.

    To JY, I owe you many thanks. Your countless video explanations along with your dry and witty sense of humor made the journey a little more enjoyable. I am sitting at the airport waiting to return home, drinking a blood orange IPA, and it feels good to sit bac kind reflect on my journey.

    Thank you to all and god bless 7Sage! I hope you all have a great night, crush the LSAT, and get into the school of your dreams. It's not about the score, it's about your journey. Wow that's a cliché. But the thing about clichés is... they are usually true!

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