Hi everyone! Hope you are all doing well!

I am debating whether to apply this cycle or wait until the next. I am currently PT-ing around 155 and am foolproofing LG now (diagnostic was 148 in October, but didn't seriously start studying until mid April). My goal is absolutely 170+ as I need the scholarship money. My initial plan is to take the October exam. I know I can achieve this score on the exam, but I'm aware that a 15 point jump from now until then is not a guarantee so I'm not sure if I can do it in this timeframe, and on top of that I have to work on my applications and do my part time job and apply for a full time job- If I apply this cycle I would try to apply by the end of October to be early.

My question is: is balancing studying and applying doable in this time frame? I have to find a full time job anyway even if I apply this cycle, and I do not mind waiting one more cycle (which would give me a lot more time to get the score I want on the LSAT and apply).

My other concern is with LORs. I graduated from college in 19' and just completed a Fulbright grant, so I'm just one year out of college. I have a good relationship with most of my recommenders but I'm nervous if I wait to ask my profs next summer the LORs wont be as strong as it'll be 2 years since I was in their classroom. Is it possible to ask them to write it this summer even if I might be applying next year?

Thank you in advance! I'm sorry this post is a little all over the place .Just trying to get insight into the process and timing to decide what's realistic for me.

Just opened my score from the May Flex and I wanted to come straight here and extend a huge THANK YOU to the community. I could not have done this without all of you. I have grown so much through this process. Respect the grind!

Can you read out loud during the LSAT Flex exam? I image you can't in a testing center but how about for LSAT FLEX. Thank you for your help.

Not sure what I should do.

Goal is T14 with money. Gpa is 4.0. To play it safe lets just say average - slightly below average softs.

PT scores were all over the place, with a 166 a week before test day with many 170s weeks and months leading up to it. Average of last 5 before test day was 169.6.

I have a month left until July. Should I just take it and run? Or should I try again.

I want to use the analytics feature but I don't have the Prep Plus package since I have all the tests in physical books. Is it possible to just input answers without needing access to the licensed material?

Same as title - got my score for may flex but not the score breakdowns yet

Hello, I'm aware that hats and earplugs are not allowed under normal testing conditions but I am not aware if one or both of these rules still apply for the LSAT flex. Hope everyone is having a good day! :)

Hi all! I'm registered for the July FLEX test and have been studying for about two months now. I've been through the PowerScore LG Bible Manhattan Prep LR and RC. I've also worked through a bunch of the core curriculum lessons, particularly for areas where I need the most help.

My diagnostic score way back in March was a 154, with my weakest section being LG. I've only taken 7 full tests since then, but I'm panicking a bit because my scores vary pretty significantly. My highest scores have been a 169 + 170, and my lowest scores have been 161 + 162.

For reference, my goal score is a 168. My undergrad GPA is a 3.95, so I'm really hoping to go to a T25 with a pretty significant scholarship.

I'm just stressed because I feel like I understand the LR pretty well, but in the practice test I just took today, I got 10 LR wrong in a single section! Does anyone have any advice? Has this happened with any of you? How can I make sense of this variation in PT scores?

Any insight would be greatly appreciated because I'm started to freak out, especially as the test keeps getting closer.

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I wanted to extend my course, but for some reason, the option of extending the course is no longer available for me. Please help. I don't understand what happened.

Does anyone have screenshots or can they describe how RC section on Lawhub (or ideally LSAT flex) looks on a larger monitor? This is a minor concern but I am studying on a 14 inch laptop and find the scrolling on RC passages makes it slightlly harder to retain the structure. I am wondering if on a larger monitor you can see the entire passage without having to scroll.

Thanks for any info!

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Professor agreed to write me a letter of rec, but she told me to explain the process. Would telling her to follow the link from LSAC's LOR service be enough? What other information should I tell her? Thank you so much.

I was doing an RC section yesterday - from PT 18, and I got 28/28 questions correct. Admittedly, this is a small victory in the general sense, but for me, it felt so good. I had never before scored perfect on any section - always at -1 or -2 being the closest I got. It felt absolutely outstanding to see all green everywhere. I have been improving greatly in my RC ability, and this felt satisfying. Motivation to keep going forward!

Additionally,

#BLM #NoJusticeNoPeace

With a 170 score on PT82. Started with a 154 and feeling great about continued improvement! If I can make it this far, every one of you can!

Hello everyone. With recent tests being LSAT-Flex, I wanted to find a thread that answers some questions I have in case August will also be flex. If you know of any info regarding August's test outlook, please let us known in this thread.

Any one else have questions or comments please add below :)

Venting here a little bit but does anyone else feel like quarantine is accelerating the pace of burnout?? Not that anyone can change anything but I feel like I might be able to study more and more effectively without all this.. Apologies for the negativity.

On the positive side, I scored my highest PT (41) ever last week (172 - 176 BR) which was pretty awesome but its just doing all of the drills, full-proofing and review in preparation for the next PT that just seems so much slower while at home with minimal routine.

With the recent announcement of the July LSAT now being Flex, is there a more accurate way to score PT's?

I recently was able to take part in a discussion with a very well respected and recognizable civ-pro professor. The question I asked the professor was: “is there anything you recommend that an incoming student learn or be aware of before they come into your classroom?” The professor answered with a very relaxed response that essentially stated: you could skim a commercial outline over the summer but you don’t have to, mostly relax and maybe read a novel [Paraphrase].

I found the answer shocking but it is also indicative of a response one gets quite often when asking this question. Some of the forms this answer takes are: “don’t bother learning anything.” “Don’t bother learning any substantive law, you don’t know what your professor is going to focus on.” Before I continue I should with full disclosure state that:

-I have yet to attend law school (This August I will be: God willing!)

-I did not study law in school formally and have never worked a legal job, my interest in law mainly comes from life experiences and my own independent watching of the news in my home country of the USA.

So ultimately because I come to this issue from a particularly inexperienced perspective, I might be completely wrong about my analysis so wanted to start this discussion as an open and transparent way of evaluating the arguments for and against doing 0L prep and to what extent.

My position:

Is a student in a better position if they go into an American law school not knowing anything at all about the law? Is that student going to be better prepared for a Con law class for instance if they have never heard of the 5th Amendment or the 14th amendment beyond a law and order rerun? Is that student going to be better prepared for a property class if they have never heard of the legal concept of trespass? Is a student better off as a “blank slate” to both learn the law, understand how that law might be applied to cases and then contextualize that information to such a degree that they can both effectively issue spot and know what is important for their professor come exam season?

I think the resounding answer to each of these questions is no, if we define “better off” as engaging with the material in a more meaningful way and doing better on exams, a student that knows something: what the basic elements of a contract are for instance, will be better prepared for the rigors of 1L than a student that knows nothing. As I have stated previously, I don’t know of any other domain of knowledge acquisition where an individual would be better off coming into something as a complete blank slate, think of how these pieces of advice (that are routinely uttered online in response to the 1L prep question) would sound:

1.The summer before med school, it doesn't help to know what the major functions of the liver are

2.The weeks before auto mechanic school, it is a waste of time to know what the major components of a car's fuel injection system are.

These pieces of advice hinge on a key assumption: that everything you could possibly need to know for the grades that largely (but not exclusive) determine your future employment will be dispensed in the classroom time. Could this be true? Airing on the side of caution, I would say no, but of course, my experience here is limited. Even if this is true, even if the exams are exclusively determined by what is stated in class, doesn't it help to come into the class with some background knowledge of the topic to be able to distill that information effectively? So for me personally, I just don’t believe the professor, respectfully. Civ-Pro is one of the most convoluted subjects I have ever looked into, with all due respect, I would rather struggle now when I have 2 hours per day to spare with the basics, then to struggle later, when 1L grades are on the line and my anxiety is running high and the cases we are reading are based on the foundations I’’m struggling at the very same time to learn. For me personally the question is not should one spend any time studying, but rather: how much time should be spent?

With that position outlined I should take the time to ask other 7Sagers:

-Did you 1L prep?

-If you did, did you feel better able to engage with the material?

-If you didn’t, do you wish you did?

-If you didn’t, did you feel “behind”?

-What do you wish you did differently?

*Fallacy alter: we might not be able to tell what the causal mechanism for being “prepared” here is. 1L prep or not.

So for me personally the question becomes: how much should I study? I have never heard the blank slate idea defended properly. I’m open to hear this case.

So for me, my plan is to read some outlines, continue taking the 7Sage courses, explore LarryLawLaw’s practice exam, read “getting to maybe” as well as some other 1L resources for bout 2 hours per day, schedule permitting. My plan is to be ready with the basics of each subject so I can build upon that knowledge and take practice exams. I don’t plan on writing a masters thesis on the origins of the 5th Amendment in British Common Law, lol, but giving myself some tools to be ready for the material. Gunner much? maybe… But as of this writing I simply cannot buy the blank slate approach.

*Full disclosure, no one paid me for this as an endorsement for anything, I receive no monetary kickback from anything I mentioned, this post is rooted in genuine curiosity and an attempt to stimulate engaging conversation with the users on this forum.

Questions for my fellow 0Ls:

-Are you prepping for 1L and if so, why and how?

-If not, why?

-Want to form an online study group, maybe reach out to some professors as guest speakers and review material together?

I should note here that I will commit myself to following up come 1L the best I can on these boards, particularly trying to answer the question: how much did 1L prep help me?

Hi all -- I compressed my studying for the June LSAT Flex (i.e. I started too late, which is no one's fault but my own) and don't have time to take every practice test the curriculum suggests.

Does anyone have any practice specific practice tests they suggest I take before the LSAT Flex, or am I better off doing the practice tests in order?

thanks!

Hi everyone,

So I initially set aside 4 months (May-August) to study full-time for the LSAT and plan on writing the end of August. I've been studying about 4-6 hours per day for the past month here on 7Sage and I'm about 34% of the way through the CC. Overall it's going well enough, however I am afraid that I've perhaps not allocated myself enough time to prepare. I should be able to finish the CC by mid July, leaving me approximately a month and a half to consistently take PTs and review. My diagnostic was a 144 but I really feel I could have done a bit better (family was making plenty of noise during the later portion).

I am dead set on being admitted for 2021 (to a Canadian School), so the other option is to take the October test. However, I feel that restricting myself to one attempt would apply extra pressure.

I have already registered for the August date and I am considering registering for the October date as well. This really is a sticky situation since I may only get my test results back from the August test just before the October test, and thus not be within the range to cancel. Conversely, I don't want to bank on doing well in August and be too late to register for the October test in the event that my results are not up to par.

I would sincerely appreciate any advice!

I have been averaging -7 per section on LR for over a month so I decided to read the Loophole. I have practiced her methods but I am still missing the same number of questions. I understand all of the question types and what I should be looking for but I always fall for the trap answer choice. I also have a hard time finishing an entire LR section in time (1-2 left at the end). I am taking the June test and would like to know the best way to proceed in order to get at least a couple more LR questions right!

You're taking a timed test. The clock is ticking. You glance at the clock. "crap, I don't have enough time". You begin to rush reading the stimulus. You don't know exactly what's going on, but you have an idea. "It probably has to do with causation/correlation", you say to yourself. You go through the answer choices. None of them seem right. Now your anxiety levels are up and you don't know what to do. "I spent so much time on this question, lets just look in the stimulus again I'm sure I'll find it". You waste your time rereading the stimulus, but you know you're wasting time, so you skim through it frantically. You see a word or two that look the same in the stimulus as it does in answer choice B. You choose answer choice B. You finish the test and you realize the answer choice was C.

"Crap! Why did I get this question wrong?!!"

I don't know about you, but I've had way too many of these scenarios come up time and time again in my studies.

I eventually realized that most of it stemmed from the mistake I made at the very beginning: Reading the stimulus too fast.

The LSAT is hard. The writers write in a way that no writers should ever write to make things difficult to understand, using grammatical sentences that no sane person would ever use. That's exactly why rushing through the stimulus is a surefire way for you to get questions wrong. When you rush through reading, you're playing right into the writer's hands. They are banking on you missing something, and when you don't read carefully, you are much more likely to miss it.

Special forces operators have a slogan when it comes to urban combat - "Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast." If you move too fast and too quickly, you can get surrounded by the enemy and outflanked.

This slogan applies just as much to the LSAT. Moving too fast through the stimulus leads to falling into the psychological traps that the LSAT writers set up for you. Reading slower allows your brain time connect the complex ideas and reasoning that are critical to getting the question correct.

I know what you might be thinking. "You're telling me all I have to do to improve on the LSAT is read slower...?"

Well, no. It comes with some other things. When you read slower, what should you be doing with that time? You should be thinking and internalizing what is actually happening in the text that you're reading. Some things you can be thinking about are "What things do I need to make this conclusion valid?" or "What can I actually conclude from these premises that are given to me? How does that compare the the conclusion I'm actually given?". Reading slower allows you time to process this critical information.

"But I don't have the luxury to read slow! This test is timed and I just don't have enough time to get through everything!"

Let me tell you something buddy. You don't have the luxury to read fast. When you read too fast, you miss things which lead to the wrong answer choice or you get confused and go back to reread. You either get the question wrong, or you reread and spend even more time than you would've if you just took it slow the first time. In practice, fast reading actually makes you slower.

From my experience self studying and studying in groups, I've seen many people (including myself) get caught up in reading too fast on the LSAT. Take a chill pill. Slow down. Have a conversation with yourself and what you're reading. Stop skimming through hard concepts.

Truly understanding what you're reading is a key factor in improving on this test. Hope this helps someone. Happy Studying.

Ever since LSAT Flex was announced for the July test, I have been saving the second logical reasoning section for last. My logic here is to try and simulate the experience of a varied, three-section test before completing an "extra" section at the end. That being said, I've struggled to maintain my discipline in the fourth section mostly because I know it won't be there on game day. While I could stand to motivate myself more here, what would be the point, exactly? It's not clear to me how extra time on logical reasoning is necessary in the blind review process if I want to start emphasizing other parts of the test which will now be weighed more heavily than before.

Under its 7Sage Flex Score Calculator, our friends at 7Sage make this recommendation: "... you've already been given the best converter in existence from the LSAC itself: the regular 4 section PrepTest. Take 4 section PTs. That will be the best predictor of how you will do on a 3 section Flex test. On test day, frame the loss of 1 LR section to yourself as a treat: 1 fewer stress inducing nerve-racking task to do."

Hi all I have a question for those who have had to push their test date back. I started the curriculum at the end of February after trying to study on my own for two months and not getting anywhere. I recently finished the curriculum and am in the process of foolproofing before I begin the pt phase. I was hoping to be ready for August and last resort October. However, I watched a 7 sage video last night about the post curriculum strategy by a sage named Josh who describes the three phases after the curriculum. After watching this I realized even though I finished the curriculum I still have a very very long way to go with this test and it does not seem like I will be ready by August and possibly even October. This is kind of disappointing because that is the date I had my eye set on for a while. I am wondering how anyone has dealt with the disappointment of having to delay your test date and sort of the mindset that helped you get over that disappointment. Thanks in advance for your responses!