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I've recently taken PTs 61, 62, and 65. I took them as four-section tests because I'm taking the test in April and July. For all three, the sections were ordered as RC, LR, LG, LR.

Was this a coincidence? Or are all of the four-section tests set this way by 7sage? If so, can this please be changed? I would like to replicate test day conditions as closely as possible.

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Should I go through the foundation then grammar section then start practice testing (btw Im going to be sitting for the August version of the exam (no logic games). Can anyone help out with the order of how I should be studying.

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Throughout my LSAT journey, I have referred constantly to this post, which noted the most difficult individual PT sections in all three pre-August 2024 LSAT components. I wanted to follow up on it with updates and remarks that I believe may benefit those taking the April and/or June 2024 LSATs.

Most difficult LSAT sections according to 7Sage Analytics, as of March 2024:

LOGIC GAMES:

5-star: 27, B, C, 34, 88

4-star: 5, 18, A, 30, 31, 35, 62

LOGICAL REASONING:

5-star: 5-S1, 7-S4,17-S2, 17-S3, F97-S1, 23-S3, 28-S1

4-star: 1-S3, 3-S4, 4-S1, 5-S3, 8-S1, 8-S4, 9-S2, 10-S4, 11-S4, 12-S4, 14-S2, 14-S4, 18-S2, 21-S3, F97-S3, 22-S4, 24-S2, 26-S2, 27-S1, 28-S3, 33-S1, 39-S2, 45-S1, 62-S2, 69-S4, 70-S4, 71-S3, 72-S2, 76-S2, 78-S1, 81-S2, 84-S3

READING COMPREHENSION:

5-star: 30, 65, 74, C2, 79, 84

4-star: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 9, 13, 15, 18, 19, 21, F97, 26, 27, 28, 31, 32, 33, 35, 38, 43, 45, 47, 48, 50, 51, 53, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 73, 75, 76, 78, 81, 82, 83, 85, 86, 87, 89, 90, 91

A couple of remarks:

  • Where are PTs 92-94? Those PTs have all their sections ranked 3 stars or lower (in some cases, even as low as 1 star!)
  • Will RC be just as difficult in April and June? I would say yes. Given how many 4- and 5-star difficulty sections have come up since the 60s range, I would recommend against neglecting RC and perhaps even going through one 4- or 5-star passage on each of your study days (you can do that by generating drills with passage difficulty set to "Hardest")
  • Should I be going out of my way to challenge myself with older 4- or 5-star difficulty sections? It depends. A lot of the LR sections listed above have outdated question forms and may be better for pure question type drilling. On the other hand, I did not reach a consistent -0 on LG until challenging myself with doing the PT A, B, and C LG sections timed and becoming exposed to all sorts of complex game formulations. It's really up to you and what your goals are
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    Hey everyone, I wanted to get some good advice from fellow LSATers. How often should I PT? I am currently finishing the core curriculum, in the LR section and was wondering when and how often should I start PTing? Should I complete my CC, or do I start PTing once in a while? Thank you in advance.

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    Hi!

    My friend who went to Yonsei UIC and I are starting an online LSAT study group. He has an official score of 176 and my score fluctuates from 166-172. I am not sure if this means anything but I have a degree from Johns Hopkins. We also have another member who scores around low-170s in the PTs.

    We meet at 7 pm-9 pm Korean Standard Time on Wednesday.

    I have a Zoom Pro, so we can meet without interruption.

    We also plan to meet offline at Gangnam station for a group study or maybe even a dinner or drinks if we gather enough people.

    If you are interested, please send me a DM and I will invite you to the KakaoTalk group chat!

    Thanks! (:

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    How do you guys study for LSATS after the core curriculum? Like how many practice tests do you guys take a week? I work full time so I can mostly just do practice tests over the weekend. Do I just do drills the other days and which drills should I do?

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    Hi, I have two different scores that I have seen for a preptest and just want to make sure I understand fully what is going on so I know how to proceed. On the first diagnostic I took, I got a 142 - what I see currently is a 135 as the score. I took a preptest two days ago and the score I received was a 148, after finishing blind review it was a 152. Now it shows up as a 140. I still had the tab open from when it was a 148. Just want to make sure what exactly is going on here and which one is my score. Thank you!

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    Hi,

    Planning on taking the new lsat as soon as it comes out since I’m a junior and want to apply to law school as soon as possible. On my first practice exam I got a 142 and same on the second. I know it seems fast but my goal is 170. I believe anything is possible. But I have issue with just how to study and too indecisive to stick with one. The other issue is on 7Sage there’s 2 versions. I’m currently doing a mix of both since version 2 is newer I assume it’s better. But I have dis Lexi a (WHY DO THEY MAKE THAT WORD HARD TO SPELL) anyways… so ver2 lack of videos make it hard to understand but on version 1 it mostly explanions and not tips or learning going on. Lol any help will be greatful. I only want to go to law school and it's literally all I have left. (long sad story)

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    Hi all, it seems that posting on the discussion forum can be ineffective in terms of getting feedback, so i’ll try one more time: I’m working on the Valid and invalid argument forms part of the curriculum, and i’ve been struggling with the concepts but taking my time. Since I will be taking the test without LG, is it necessary for me to still put a big emphasis on it?

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    I am just getting started and created my study schedule. I am not seeing drilling/practice tests on there. Should we finish the study schedule curriculum before we get started on creating drills and taking practice tests?

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    Update on 2024-03-21: we've ended this experiment and turned off the study session calendar. Thanks to everyone who came to a collaborative study session!**

    Hey 7Sage,

    I'm excited to announce free, on-demand, small-group study sessions! Every weekday, we're offering four sessions with ten slots each. The sessions are designed to be student-led—no 7Sage staff will be in the meeting—but we'll provide your group with a suggested activity.

    Please note that the meetings will be recorded for the safety of all participants.

    Sign up for a small-group study session now!

    This is an experiment, and we’d love to hear your feedback.

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    I'm currently a 3L at one of the Canadian law schools (which I will keep anonymous) and was feeling anxious about the uncertainty of articling that lies ahead. I came back to 7sage to scroll to take gain some perspective and remind myself of where I started and to remind myself that things do work out and they will be okay. This rings true even for those in law school. However, I saw some forums that reminded me of how I felt when studying to get into law school and I hope my experience can help bring some encouragement to someone!

    To provide some context, I was admitted into my current law school in 2021 but before that I studied for the LSAT for 4 years. I was working full-time (a typical eight hour job) and was studying full-time. I had almost given up since I had taken the LSAT almost 4 times (this was before the cap was reinstated). By the last attempt, I was so burnt out, bitter, annoyed, frustrated and just overall upset. I didn't want to study anymore and almost called it quits. Hearing about law school or even seeing TV shows about the law made me feel ill and just reminded me of how disappointed I was with my studying at that point. I will not sugarcoat it, studying for this exam was absolutely brutal and it's definitely not for the faint of heart. Given how fed up I was with this exam, I called it quits and essentially just did the last attempt for the sake of doing it (I had stopped studying for it weeks before and just started reviewing). Trust, even reviewing for this exam was like pulling teeth, my motivation was that dried out and tired. Funnily enough, that last attempt ended up being my best score (159) and I was so surprised. For myself, I realized part of the obstacle was me. I had borderline idolized this exam and it was only until I learned to ease my anxiety that I did better. The next three years were a whirlwind and I honestly am still in shock by the fact that they passed by so quickly. There's still so much that I need to learn and I still struggle at times to adopt a novice mindset.

    I'm now graduating in a month. If someone had told me that I would be at this point in my life then I wouldn't have believed them. It's wild how life works. This is my long winded way of saying trust the process and put your best foot forward. If you tried, at least you can say that you did and it may or not bear fruit. Either way, you will be okay and you never know where life will take you. Don't give up b/c you've got this.

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    I have been studying for about 8 months, with a very heavy emphasis for the last 3 months. I am beyond frustrated with my lack of improvement and inconsistency. Am I actually just dumb? I have placed a huge emphasis on BR recently, and will continue to do so. But it hasn't seemed to help. I hired a tutor, I have my fingers crossed that it helps but nothing else I have tried seems to. My first diagnostic was a 148 I believe, then I studied my ass off, my last PT before Feb LSAT was a 159 and I was feeling ok about it. Took the test and got a 153. Took another PT a few days ago and got a 155. My goal is to eventually get a 168-172 by next cycle and I am starting to feel like that is not viable for me anymore.

    One of the hardest things for me is diagnosing what exactly my issue is. There have been times I will take a PT and get -4 LR, and then my very next test I will get my -11/12 LR. I know my games and RC need work which is the main reason I hired a tutor, but man LR is driving me nuts. I feel like I know what the question is asking, I understand the stimulus, and even in BR I am able to explain away the other answers that I didn't choose, only to find out that I chose incorrectly. Is it even possible for me to get a 160mid or above by the April/June LSAT barring an absolute miracle from God? Has anyone else been in a similar situation? Just wanted to see any advice anyone may have. Thanks!

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    I wanted to see if anyone would know if having migraines would allow me to receive accommodations on the LSAT. If so also what are the exact steps? I have looked on LSAC's website but the directions seem a little confusing.

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    Just got a 151 on the February 2024 LSAT which was my goal and is good enough for the law schools I am applying to. After consuming 67 cans of Redbull original/tropical flavor. Waking up at 6 am and studying till 3 am for 5 months. My LSAT journey has officially come to an end. went from a 136 to a 151 so people out there still studying or taking the april LSAT. I know its going to suck but please dont give up you will get your goal score. From being pestered by parents constantly asking when Im going to apply to dealing with the LSAT, its finally ending. I will pray for all of you and hope you get your goal scores. This is Brandon signing off for the last time.

    Thank you JY for everything.

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    Hi everyone,

    I just resubscribed to 7sage today. It said to purchase the prep plus program from Law Hub to access material. I purchased it. However, it still won't let me access the material such as videos. I think this is because I had 2 LSAC accounts and I might have linked this 7sage account with the other one that I did not purchase the prep program on. Is there a way to change the LSAC/LawHub account that is linked to this 7sage account?

    or would I be able to transfer my membership to another account?

    Admin note: Edited title. Please do not post threads or comments in all caps. This is against the Forum Rules.

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    Hey 7Sagers,

    Currently we feature a free Proctored PT event every week on Saturdays, such as this one from last Saturday.

    Do you find these valuable? If you've attended one or more in the past, what did you like or dislike about it? If you haven't attended one, is there a particular reason (not held at a good time, doesn't sound useful, etc.)?

    Any feedback is appreciated!

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    Hey all! I’m curious to see if others are running into a similar problem as I am. My PT Timed score is consistently about 12-14 points lower than my Blind Review score (~164-165 on the timed and 176-178 on the Blind Review). I understand that there is likely going to be a discrepancy, especially while still training that “muscle” — but is anyone else experiencing such a drastic difference between their Timed and Blind Review scores? Anecdotes, tips, and guidance would definitely be appreciated! Thank you in advance :-)

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    This is not directly related to LSAT but then at the same token, I believe it is because dealing is a big part of being a lawyer.

    I always thought relationship is a deal; however, as I do more deals and deals, I believe this process is unending with the same "BS" people every time.

    I am wondering what the logic is after the "deal."

    What I am asking is if we have a logic behind our philosophy as "Relationship is deal"

    Could we say "Dealing is bulldozing?"

    It seems like there is a certain extent we have to agree to this deal even though it may be unfair. If that is the case, can we just bulldoze whoever and whatever -- institution, organization, people, one-man entity, family?

    In the Art of the Deal by Donald Trump, he said we should be able to kick a family out if the tenant does not pay rent; however, if we read Stephen Covey's 7 Habits of Highly Effective People, Covey pretty much states to not bulldoze a relationship.

    Please offer your thought here. Thank you! (:

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