On 7S you can find explanations pretty fast for BR. Is it the same for taking PT's on LSAC?

I will be taking the online version so it would be great to practice with the actual test interface I will see on test day.

Hey All,

I'm in the PT and drill phase of my LSAT journey and find myself needing guidance on personal specifics. Would any seasoned LSAT warriors themselves (or those who know of such fabled warriors) PM me and help out?

Any and all help is appreciated and I will do what I can in return.

I will be taking the August 2020 LSAT Flex. I think I read somewhere that we will only be allowed 5 pieces of paper and a pencil. I took the LSAT digital in person before but we got a pen. So will we not be able to use a pen anymore and have to use a pencil? Any other differences between the LSAT Flex and the LSAT digital in person?

We've got this!

Hi, please offer your advice! I have now finished LR and RC core lessons - I have no more lessons next. I have decided to take no LG August version, so still have -AMPLE- time to study. I am currently scoring in the low to mid 160's (last PT I scored a 164) and my dream score is 170+. I am extremely determined to get into a T6-T14 and have allocated the time to get my score where it needs to be.

My question is - now that I have finished all the core curriculum... what's next? Should I focus on drilling LR and then RC, work on my problem areas, then begin regularly PTing? Should I switch to books, then go back to 7sage in a few months? I have the Loophole book ready to read. Should I wait to consistently PT until the beginning of Spring to save my tests for when I'm more ready and closer to test date? Should I be focusing on drilling everday? Redo the lessons?

Really just asking what your next steps would be / what your study plan would look like. Any advice is helpful, thanks and good luck to you all!

After 1 year+ of studying for the LSAT, I feel devastated. I just recieved my October LSAT score - 162. In January I got 162 (cancelled) -> 160 in September (cancelled) -> and now 162 again. I thought I could get at least a 165 and feel at a loss because clearly I haven't been studying right for the past year.

I am almost done with my law school applications and intend to apply in the next two weeks. Is it even worth registering for the January LSAT? I'm not sure how much I could improve by then and it would more be for the purpose of having a better score if I was waitlisted or for scholarships... Also, I'm abroad currently so can only take the January international exam.

I am SO done with this awful exam. BTW I am a split scorer - 3.92 GPA and 162 LSAT. I want to get into a T14/20.

What do I do now? Should I just give up and apply with my 162 and hope for the best? I genuinely don't know how I can improve and I just feel like I can't get this test right.

I plan on taking the LSAT in April. I'm a very visual person. Does anyone have a good study guide/outline to follow?

This is more of a journal entry for myself as I get closer to test day. Hopefully someone can use some of these!

LG - My worst modality. I wish that I had listened to people from the beginning and just drilled it over and over again. I am really coming to appreciate that mastery simply takes time. If you're new, watch the LG core videos, and then just use the dill auto builder to focus on your worst game types. That's what I am doing now, but I am concerned I started a little too late. I know that my worst games are group-types and Misc. (obviously). So I have been doing 5-10 games a day, with at least one timed section. It's definitely helping.

I listen to the Thinking LSAT Podcast when I'm waiting for new episodes of the 7Sage podcast to come out (prioritize 7Sage's podcast- it's much more practical). One of those dudes said that when he does a LG section, he simply takes it one game at a time- he doesn't watch the clock, he doesn't worry about the next game, he doesn't think about a game that he skipped (if he skipped), he simply gets one perfect game, followed by a second perfect game, followed by a third perfect game, and if time allows, he does a fourth perfect game. It sounds a little silly, but I noticed that my biggest LG score shaker is my perception of time. Not time itself, mind you, but how I feel more and more anxious as the clock is ticking down, knowing that I likely have a harder game up next. I stop focusing, which kills my ability to do the basics- understand each rule, choose an appropriate board, split prudently, don't lose track of rules throughout the game. When I take timed drills outside of PTs, I am relaxed and smooth. I get somewhere between -2 to -4, which is acceptable to me based on my goals. But during PTs, I'll see -5+ consistently. That's the equivalent of almost an entire game. If I had taken 33 minutes to do 3 games, and then guessed on the last, I would probably do better. But I leave points on the table throughout the entire section.

The takeaway is this: do one game at a time. When you do a game, that is it. Think about nothing else. Don't think about how this simple sequencing game should take you less time. Just think about the sequencing game. And then spend more time drilling those games that are slowing you down or causing you to miss points.

LR - In one of the 7Sage podcast videos, Henry says that if you want to get better at RC, do LR. In my experience, I would agree. You're strengthening your reading comprehension and critical thinking ability, one bite-sized chunk at a time. The core videos are again very helpful, but what I noticed is that after doing a few of the full courses for the various question types, you start to feel way more comfortable with all of the types. Spend the time to watch those videos and do the accompanying drills, and you'll see increasing returns with every question type you study.

RC - I have always been pretty good at RC. I think I got a -4 on my first diagnostic, and I will regularly see -1. I don't have as much advice to give, because I feel like I haven't really improved much beyond understanding what the LSAT is looking for. I would suggest being able to paraphrase every paragraph to yourself before moving on. If you can't do that, I wouldn't move on.

General wisdom - There was a period of about 3 weeks that I was trying to get in 4+ hours of studying a day in, plus work, plus the gym. Although I was allotting myself time to review PTs, I simply wasn't allowing my brain the time to heal and absorb new concepts. I was taking a PT every 2 days- test, review the next, test again, etc. That pattern was not conducive to my learning. I have backed it off to 1-2 PTs a week, and spending the rest of that time on focused drills.

Thank you for reading my stream-of-consciousness post.

Does anyone know of legal jobs that involve or allow for part-time work? I'm just curious, and would appreciate any and all leads you all have for niches in the field of law (or even outside of law, but suitable for people with a JD) that are amenable to part-time or flexible work.

Hello. I was wondering how many drills you all are doing when you reach the Drill at the end of a LR question type section. I just completed the PAI section and did two drills because I felt like I needed more practice.

Thanks!

I will be taking the FLEX using a desktop computer that has a camera, and was wondering if anyone has experience with how to make this work with the flex requirement to show around your testing area (really would not be easy to pick up the entire monitor and show under my desk lol). Does anyone know if I could get another detachable camera to use? Or if I would be able to get a mirror and angle it to show my surroundings?

Hi, I've been studying for the LSAT from July this year. My target is 170+ in the Jan 2024 LSAT (ambitious, i know). But my study schedule has not been consistent. It has seen breaks because of a couple of days because of me being sick or vacation or just my mental health. I have been cognizant of the fact that I would have to take a second attempt and the first one is just a trial run to be more familiar with the exam, but what can I do to maximise my score in the Jan (first attempt) exam itself? My RC and LR sections are strong but I'm PTing in the late 40s because of LG.

Hello everyone! I just scheduled my November 2023 test date through Prometric and had a few little struggles, so I thought I'd share them and hopefully it will help you when signing up for test date.

I signed into my LSAC account about 10 minutes early and immediately clicked on scheduling. Do not wait right until the "allotted" scheduling time opens!!! I was early and still 260 in the queue. When I got through and imputed my desired date to see the available time, I selected one and hit "reserve time slot," but no confirmation text was sent. I found out that there were about 1.5k people in the queue, so it made sense that things were slow, but I started to panic. I decided to just call the Prometric help desk phone number and after a long wait of 20 minutes I was able to talk to someone. They confirmed that it does not look like my selected time was reserved and they helped me schedule my test. They were pretty helpful and quick.

So, basically enter the queue early and when in doubt, call Prometric!

Hi everyone,

I'll be taking the LSAT on Sunday 5th October at Macquarie University in Sydney. I've had a flick through some other forums, but thought I'd ask here: do any of you have any experience taking the LSAT abroad in general/at Macquarie Uni specifically?

I've read a couple of things about invigilators outside of the US having made mistakes because they're not so familiar with the test, so that concerns me a little.

Any insights would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks guys :)

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Dear 7sagers,

So here's my thoughts on my first online format take for the LSAT:

I loved it for LR! It just felt like the process went way smoother and more efficiently. I don't know if it was because I've been drilling and reviewing LR like mad over the past couple of weeks, but nonetheless, the online LR has some evident advantage in my view. First of all, it helps so much that the clock is on your screen. Checking for the time on my analog watch was just a plain damn nuisance for me. Also, not having to transfer your answers on the scan-tron gives me an extra 2-3 minutes to do more questions. Lastly, the online format in terms of pencil vs. mouse/tablet pen, doesn't allow much time to be fixated on labeling. This indirectly forces you to focus on the structure of the argument instead of circling/underling each and every major detail, which was a bad habit for me.

Now for on the contrary, the online format is a freakin' NIGHTMARE for Games! Having to look up and down at the screen between my setup on scratch paper and the test itself on the monitor was unforgiving for me! Right now I usually get through about 3 games; but this time I could barley do ONE! Uggh, I wish LSAC would allow for having a clean paper version of the games to write on, and then transfer your answers on the computer/tablet. How do you all handle Games online? I folded my scratch paper horizontally, with one bigger side for the diagram, and the smaller side for questions. However this didn't help me at all, so I would dearly welcome any and all suggestion on this for me.

For Reading Comp., I still slightly prefer paper, but I believe I'll be able to adjust for online reading. I also believe that the online version, like LR, doesn't allow much time for obsession over labeling, so it forces you to comprehend the structure of the passage, which is what RC is pretty much all about.

PS: I'm registered for the July test, which seems like a WTF that I just now did an online test. However I'm most likely going to cancel and take advantage of the later free test unless I score a 155 or better. So I'd really like those online LG suggestions please!

I am so stress with this upcoming test. First, because it will be the last with LG, so I am expecting the worst, to have the most difficult games ever. Second, I am getting loose in LR cause my focus is LG that I am getting incorrect responses, and when I do the blind review i get them correct, and then I think why I cannot think when I am under time pressure. Can someone give me an advise ??? I know my Core curriculum fundamentals are there.

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Early start as I need to nail it!!!

Do you guys suggest taking PT while progressively working through the syllabus or after I have covered all the course concepts and lessons?

[I am posting on behalf of a 7Sage user. Please feel free to leave your comments below. Thank you for your help!]

Hello, Prior to to beginning my LSAT study journey on 7Sage, i completed 7 LSAT exams on the LSAC Test Prep Plus. Specifically they were exams 75-77, 79-80. I completed 3/4 parts using assimilated flex. I also completed 1 LR section of Preptest 74. I aim to take exams 37-89. What advise would you have on these exams. Do i re-do the exams or skip them and complete the exams i have not taken?

Proctors: Very unprofessional. My proctor kept making jokes leading up to the exam and asking us personal questions. If I am about to take the most important test of my life, please take it seriously. She just made a lot of unnecessary side comments while going through the directions in the beginning, which was extremely annoying and distracting.

Facilities: I took it in the basement classrooms in Frelinghuysen. It's a basement for a reason. It was absolutely freezing during the exam. I kept my jacket on the whole time, which was really uncomfortable, but I had no choice because it was either I kept my jacket on or I froze to death.

What kind of room: Classroom.

How many in the room: Around 40.

Desks: Tiny. They are the desks connected to the chair. Barely any room to keep your booklet open and your answer sheet next to it.

Left-handed accommodation: I am not sure if there were left-handed desks in the room.

Noise levels: Not too bad. The room was small, especially for the amount of people in it, so it felt really crowded and stuff in there and you could hear everyone's little movements.

Parking: I got dropped off. The parking lot next to the Student Activities Center was full when I got there. Most people came from their dorms though.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: A lot of time. It was an extremely inefficient use of our time. The line was so long because no one knew that there was a second line if you went down the stairs. There were two different check-in points but they didn't make that clear whatsoever.

Irregularities or mishaps: When I got there, the line was out the door, so we were standing in the rain for 30 minutes before getting inside. I waited in the second line that was down the stairs because I thought it was another check-in. That line took another 30-40 minutes, and when I got to the front, she told me that that desk/line was the same thing as the one upstairs. So I wasted that time waiting in line instead of getting in the right mindset for the exam. By the time I got in the classroom, we waited another 30 minutes for the last people in those lines to get checked in. Overall, it was a complete mess and the worst way to begin test day.

Other comments: My proctor let someone go to the bathroom after they entered the test room (which you're not supposed to do), and then 6 more people said, "Can I go to?" so we waited another 20 minutes for all of those students to go to the bathroom when you're not even supposed to leave the classroom as soon as you get in unless you go to the bathroom during the exam. Just shows how unprofessional the proctors were and serious they were taking the exam.

Would you take the test here again? Not at all. Please, sign up to take it at another school. It's not worth your time and money to take it at a place that will waste your time and money.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: October 2015

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The Question Bank is great!

Progressing through the PT phase, I was wondering if it is possible to have a Filter/Sort for the PT's that I have entered into Analytics to create problem sets to drill? Utilizing the problem sets within the curriculum was immensely helpful and I have created similar problem sets with PTs that I have taken. Curious if it could be easier to delineate which PTs to choose to create mini-drill sets and be able to maintain the integrity of fresh PTs?

Any advice appreciated to make it an easier process:)

(p.s. This post is in no way advocating for extensive drilling on a specific Question type - taking sections and being able to adapt as the questions are presented is paramount:)

I'm writing my lsat on Saturday and i keep scoring 4 points below my goal score.

With my gpa, a score of mid 150 would make me competitive for the law school i want to get into.

Currently i keep scoring between 151 to 152.

When i BR my score gets to 155+.

Any last minute tips to help me boost up my score a couple points?

It's really frustrating because everytime I do LR the first time around i get -8 to -11, but when i go back to look at the questions i got wrong, the answers which were my second choice are always right.

And as for LG, I'm doing well in terms of accuracy, however I'm still spending 8.5 min on each game. Which makes it difficult to finish the last most difficult game.