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I've been studying on my own with books but I really need to improve on LR to do well in December after bombing Sept. So I new to such terms as drilling and blind review.

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Hello fellow 7Sagers,

I would like your opinion. I will be starting the PT stage for December and of course will be extensively reviewing those. I won't have time, clearly, for PTs 35-70+. I plan on doing something like ~45 or ~55 - 70+. Luckily, I am pretty naturally inclined to perform decent on RC. Of course my timing could use help, but I'm fairly accurate. During the PT stage, I'll mix in some practice of logic games, doing games several times over in my spare time in order to stay fresh. My only concern, though, is not getting my eyes on enough LR questions that will allow me to master the section. I will be able to see where I'm at after a few PTs on the LR sections, but I'd like to be able to get my eyes on as many of them as I can. I don't have the money to buy all of the packets for LR. Would it suit me best to see where I'm at after a few PTs and then maybe target my problem questions with packets? OR, do you believe that just doing PTs and reviewing extensively will be enough for me to get down LR? Thanks in advance for the help and helping to create such a great community to turn to!

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Last comment wednesday, oct 22 2014

Which Appplication Cycle to apply?

3.85, 161 Sept LSAT.

On my PT, in the weeks leading up to the Sept exam, I was consistently scoring a 167-169. I am confident I can do better. (Bombed the first two and aced the last two sections. I believe it might have been nerves)

Although I plan to take the December 2014 exam, I am wondering if it is in my favor to wait until the next application cycle (class of fall 2016) or apply this cycle (class of fall 2015)?

I am looking for scholarship money, which would be feasible if I score a ~168. However, I heard the earlier you apply, the more likely you will get in (rolling admissions) and the more likely you will receive scholarship money (non need-based).

I am really dependent on scholarship money, so I want to have the best chances of earning as much as possible. Which application cycle will be the most beneficial for my situation?

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Last comment tuesday, oct 21 2014

Letters of Recommendation

I know most law schools require only two letters, one academic and one non-academic. But should I include my letter of recommendation from my employer as supplementary material? It provides some good input on my time management skills and organizational skills and I was with the employer for 3 and a half years.

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I'd really like some professional advice on retaking, but not sure how to e-mail J.Y. or staff.

Has anyone ever heard them mention it or strategies related to it?

(or know how to contact them/do they respond to direct contact?)

Retaking, most likely in February as I bombed September, and really need to reassess but not sure where to start.

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So I got a 161 on the September LSAT. Does anyone have advice for improving for the next test? I only took two prep tests before I wrote the actual test. Should I just write a bunch of prep tests and blind review? And should I go for the December test or the February test? Thank you so much!

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Hi all!

I'm in the process of studying for the September 27 exam, and I'm wondering whether there are any 7Sagers who would like to get together to take PTs and discuss problems/study methods/etc. Ideally, I'd like to meet up on either a Saturday, Sunday, or Monday morning somewhere in Vancouver (location suggestions welcome - maybe a VPL branch?).

If anyone is interested, let me know!

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Last comment tuesday, oct 21 2014

Should I Retake?

Hey all. Started prep in late July for the September LSAT. Self studied by reading the powerscore books and doing PT's (found sage a week before the test). Ended up getting a 151 with -14 on games got caught with like 7 blank, clearly shows I didn't do enough full timed run throughs filling in the bubbles. Also had to guess on the second half of a RC passage which never never happened to me in training. I got almost no sleep the night before which I think could have contributed. Basically should I go at it again in December?

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Last comment tuesday, oct 21 2014

LSAC event

2014 LAW SCHOOL RECRUITMENT FORUMS

Has anyone been to a law school forum/workshop with LSAC? They have one in Houston but I live in austin.

Several universities will attend and setup booths. An admission representative will be there to answer any questions you may have and you also receive a $50 application waiver. I really want to get accepted into UT and they will be there. But i remember doing this years ago and it was pointless. And I don't know anyone else that's going :(

i dk, Is it worth the commute/time?

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Last comment tuesday, oct 21 2014

Score Increase.

I took the June 2014 Lsat for the first time I did horrible. I am applying to law school this semester for the Fall of 2015. I made a 140 on the June 14 LSAT, but I am taking it again in February 2015.

But my two questions are:

1) Is there any way i could see a significant jump in my score (at least 160 or higher)?

2) Is it still okay to apply and send my February Lsat scores in or am I pushing it for admissions to accept me?

Thanks for all the comments in advance!

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Last comment tuesday, oct 21 2014

Third retake?

I fucked up my score on the last two games. Everything else went more or less according to plan. I really feel that I know what I'm doing and deserve to get closer to PT score (165ish). The score I got today, high 150's, is probably good enough to get me into the state school in our area that I really want to go to. I doubt I would get any scholarships with my current score, however, and that is definitely not good. What do you think? The school policy is that they take the highest lsat score into consideration. How do you guys think a third one would look? Worth it?

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Having done mostly self-study from a few online resources and a book, I studied for about two and a half months and took the LSAT in June. I had barely slept at all the night before and got a 157 in the 71st percentile.

I regrouped in August and studied for another two months and took the test in October (I'm in South Korea). Again, I hardly slept at all the night before the test. Thanks to 7sage (and my own mental elbow grease), my score went up 10 points (94th percentile).

I'M SO HAPPY RIGHT NOW.

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Last comment tuesday, oct 21 2014

Retake? 168, -8 in LG

As mentioned above, I just got my LSAT score. I scored a 168, which I believe is a perfectly good score. The thing is that I scored -8 in logic games, and I think I could do better. I'm also almost certain that I could repeat my performance in the other sections.

Is it unreasonable to retake given that I want to apply for fall 2015? Would a potential (and not guaranteed) 2-4 point improvement be worth submitting an application 3 months later than I would otherwise?

My GPA is just below a 3.5, and I'm trying to get into a lower-ranked T14/15 school.

Any wisdom would be appreciated.

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How should study for december? I have exhausted all prep tests...and used mostly all of the prep questions to my disposal. My weakness is still primarily reading comprehension. How should I go about studying for december? Its my last chance....dont want to do worse than i just found I did...(162)

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Last comment tuesday, oct 21 2014

Thank you 7-Sage

Just wanted to thank 7-Sage, the format, the community, everything about the site. I have been gone for a while but the principles I learned here became the foundations to my LSAT prep. I was able to score better then I ever planed on or hoped for, I didn't use any expensive courses or any special methods. I followed 7 Sage, internalized the material and practiced. I owe you a thank you as I move forward in my legal pursuits.

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My question concerns the lsac fee waiver. I should be approved without any trouble but I am having the hardest time getting my non filing form from the IRS. I have faxed them the request form and also called a couple times and still no luck. I would normally just wait and not be so anxious but my account is on hold due to it and with scores coming out thos week I really don't want to be stuck SOL waiting for the IRS to mail me the info LSAC requested. Do you guys know if it's possible to cancel the fee waiver to not have my account on hold and see my scores and then re submit it afterward to still receive the fee waivers? Any help is appreciated! Thank yo

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Last comment monday, oct 20 2014

7 Week Mark

That post made me start thinking.....

The highest I have gotten is 158. I'm hoping to sit somewhere in the mid 160s before the exam. I work full time, so I can't dedicate entire days to studying, but I'm going to propose a breakdown for how to go about getting such a score. Can someone look at it and tell me if they think it'll be effective?

Yesterday I wrote a practice test, and only got a 151. Which was disheartening. However, I realized that all the LG questions were from my weakest set - In/Out. And I really struggled with the Reading Comprehension, so those are two areas I need to focus on improving.

Saturday

- Prep Test

- Review Logical Reasoning both sections (BR)

- Review Logic Games Section (BR)

- Identify Problem Areas/Areas needing work

- Review

Sunday

- Review Reading Comprehension (BR)

- LG practice

- 1-2 Reading Comprehension practice

- Work on LR problem areas

During the week I ride the LRT to work, which is about 30 minutes of time a day. During this ride, I like to pull out Art History/ Scientific America Articles and read/make notes on them/ decipher the main point in the paragraphs and such, while working on retaining the passage. I do this daily.

Monday

- Review LR from the Prep Test

- LG Practice

- 2 RC Practice

- Review problem areas with LR

- Read Information (I have a print out of all the lessons that I review)

Tuesday/ Thursday

- Repeat of Saturday

Wednesday/Friday

- Repeat of Sunday

This will allow me to do.... 3 prep tests a week. An additional 6-8 Reading Comprehension practices, with memory method, get some additional "hard" reading in, and work on LG.

Does this seem effective? I am trying not to let the 151 bother me too much, but it's hard not to! I really want to target my problem areas.

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Last comment sunday, oct 19 2014

LG help!

So after about 5 months of studying w 7sage my LG is by far my worst section. I range anywhere from 50-75%. Sequencing Games/Dual Layered Seq Games are my weakness. I work on Logic Games extensively printing the games out 10x each and perfecting them. Once i have "perfected them" i leave them alone for a few days/weeks and go back to them periodically and can still finish them pretty quickly. Yet when I am testing, its as if Ive never seen a LG in my life and i freeze or go way too slow. I don't know what to do about Games, any pointers? tips? suggestions?

Is anyone else having similar problems?

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It has recently come to my attention that a visit to a psychiatrist may be necessary for me - I've been hearing J.Y. Ping's voices when doing LG sections.

"Apply the con-tra-PA-si-tive".

"What IN-fe-rences can we make?"

"Negate sufficient, fulfill necessary, the rule just goes away!"

"You have to take stock which rules are left..you can't freeze.."

When I was working on some logic games with my friends, I voiced out my thought process along the way, and they told me I sounded like J.Y. Ping (the little mannerisms). Oh I wish I was as good as him, but upon watching countless hours of his videos, Mr. Ping's voice took over me. And the more I try to get rid of it, it just keeps on coming back.

Anyone has similar experience? I'm sure I'm not alone.

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