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Hello 7sagers!

I've recently started studying for the LSAT and with a low diagnostic score of 140, I have created a time - line for myself to study for at least 6 months - 1 year, in order to improve to a 170. I do realize that a 30 pt jump is incredibly rare, but I am the type of individual who has never been naturally talented, but rather was able to succeed because of my work - ethic. I ended high school with a 2.1 GPA and now towards the end of my undergraduate career, I've maintained a 4.0 GPA at my university, which I accredit to my work - ethic.

I wanted to reach out and ask the members of 7sage about how to approach preparing for the exam. I have purchased various course material that I want to use, but I do not know the best way in tackling the various LSAT prep material that I have compiled for myself. I am currently studying the LSAT Trainer and using the 8 - week plan listed on his website, which I plan to have finished by the end of this July. I also have purchased the PowerScore Bibles, as well as the 7sage course in order to help improve my score, but I do not know how to incorporate both of them into my study schedule, after completing the LSAT Trainer.

Beginning in August, I will be able to transition fully into the 7sage CC , after completing the LSAT trainer, but I also would like to complete the PowerScore Bibles as well. I wanted to know how to tackle the situation, since I plan on taking the LSAT in December as a flex, and taking it again next June to apply for the next cycle. I would truly appreciate any feedback provided and would be extremely grateful for the help that I receive!

*I also study for 25 - 30 hours a week, as it was recommended by anyone trying to seriously improve their score and take a day off to prevent burn out.

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Hey Everybody,

Taking the August LSAT and PT'ing in the 170s.

Was wondering if anyone had considered starting at the end of LR sections, spending the most amount of time/mental energy on the generally more difficult last 10 questions, and working their way to the front. So rather than racing through the hardest section of the test while mentally fatigued, you're the "freshest" and have the most time.

Similarly with RC, why not give the most time and energy to the (usually) toughest two passages at the end, rather than the first two?

I can't see an obvious reason this wouldn't work or that there are any significant drawbacks. Although, I'm definitely not the first person to consider this, nor does this seem like the "meta"/something commonly recommended by 7Sage. So there's gotta be some reason to not do it like this right?

Thanks for reading!

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I had a well known law professor I worked with offer to write me a letter to my dream school... I have already submitted my app and used the max number of references. Is him writing a letter a good or a bad idea? I haven't had a response from the school yet. He's also taught at the school before. I know I should have asked him to be one of my LOR's, but I honestly didn't think he would.

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Hey guys,

Has anyone experienced a score reduction when taking the digital LSAT compared to their physical LSAT scores? I am quite nervous about taking the digital LSAT because I am a person who loves to mark up the paper when doing RC and LR. I find that it keeps me more focused.

I have taken a couple individual RC and LR sections digitally and have found that my scores in those sections have dropped a couple points due to (I think) the inability to physically circle/draw arrows/etc. on the passage or stimulus. Any tips on transferring physical LSAT habits to the digital LSAT?

Thanks!

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Here's my review for Western Washington University. I actually live in BC but this test centre is the closest to my house and it's really good (based on my limited experience) and I'm not really sure I want the word to get out before the next time I have to write haha.

Proctors: There were two women, super friendly and the one at the front was really encouraging, kept telling us how well prepared she thought we looked during the break and after the test was over. They also let us keep water on the desk and reminded people that knuckle cracking was distracting in between sections. Proctors were quiet and I never heard them chatting or saw them moving. One stayed up at the back and the other sat at the front.

Facilities: Restrooms were down the hall, 1 minute walk for slowpokes, 25 seconds for everyone else. I don't know what they looked like because I don't use public washrooms....assuming they were standard, had toilets and sinks...

What kind of room: Small lecture hall (aka higher at the back, lower at the front) with long tables for desks and chairs that were attached by a swivel. Chairs kind of sucked but what can you really expect at a school?

How many in the room: 13 (15 were scheduled but 2 were no-shows). They mentioned to us before the test that they decided to split us into 3 separate groups based on last names so I'm assuming every room had about the same. Plenty of room to stretch out and line up all 15 of your backup pencils. The room was far from being full and I there there was a 3 seat gap in between each person.

Desks: Long tables attached to the floor so no movement. No wiggling.

Left-handed accommodation: No one was left handed in my room but since there were so few of us I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem to move if you needed to.

Noise levels: Super quiet. Literally heard nothing the entire time I was writing. They also had signs posted on the room doors as well as the building entrance/exit doors asking for quiet as testing was in progress.

Parking: Pay parking from a meter. Not difficult to figure out. Walked probably 10 feet from my car to the building. When I did a trial drive earlier in the summer they had a visitor centre that was opened where they told me they would issue visitor parking passes for free but unfortunately the centre was closed last Saturday.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: They were really efficient in getting us all lined up and in the correct rooms. We started the first section at 9:05 but only because one test taker was either super nervous and didn't understand how to complete any of his bubble sheet or didn't pay attention to the instructions and just sat there silently not asking questions. A few people also didn't pay attention when they told us to insert the writing sample form into the last page of the test booklet.

Irregularities or mishaps: One test taker was clearly bubbling in answers after the 5th section ended. The proctor at the rear immediately came down and told him he wasn't permitted to be doing that. The front proctor confirmed but still let him continue after he told them he only bubbled in one hole. I (and probably everybody else except the proctor at the front who was almost right in front of him) saw him the entire time as he as the only person noticeably moving after time had been called. He must have bubbled in at least 10 by the time she told him to stop. He claimed he didn't know he wasn't permitted but we got constant reminders about it so I doubt it.

Other comments: I think that this test centre is underused since it's in such a random middle of nowhere location and I didn't see any other reviews on it prior to writing. The proctor also asked us if we wanted a 10 or 15 minute break before the break started. I wanted 10 but no one else did or maybe a bunch of us did but didn't put our hands up...lemmings.

Would you take the test here again? 100% (sadly that will soon be a reality come grey day...)

Date[s] of Exam[s]: Sep 24, 2016

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Just got my June 2024 score back, and although not terrible, I will be rewriting so wanted to ask the following question to redirect my studying. When studying for the June test, I noticed that my BR scores were consistently above 172 (peaking at 177), whereas my PT scores averaged around a 165-166 (peaking at 170). My blind review process usually took the time and a half of an actual PT, so its pretty clear to me that my disproportionate scoring is due to speed issues. There are other factors as well (being able to fool proof LG in BR easily, being able to take mental breaks, etc.), but I think timing is the major issue as opposed to fundamental issues.

I wanted to ask those of you who may have experienced the same thing, how you improved your scores, or in other words, made your BR scores a reality? Since my best, or at least most reliable, section will no longer be on the test, I'm trying to offset the potential for a scoring decrease. I know practice is likely gonna be many people's answers, but I felt that I hit a plateau in terms of timing and improvement, where if I had more time and continued to just practice the way I was, my improvement would have been minimal. This is why I figured I'd ask for any specific advice to help with my issue.

Additionally, I'm willing to spend a bit more money to invest in other prep materials to maybe break out of this plateau (cause I'm rather desperate lol). So any recommendations for prep materials that helped people with this issue would also be greatly appreciated. I'm considering purchasing the Loophole and the RCHero course, so insights into these prep materials and perhaps whether they helped people with speed issues is also greatly appreciated! :)

Sorry for the post, just figured I'd restart my studying by hearing some people's opinions on this. And for those of you who were also not satisfied with your June mark, keep your chin up and keep fighting, soon enough we'll all come out of this having conquered this dastardly test!

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HELP WITH LSAT!!!!

Hi everyone! I’m trying to find someone who has taken the LSAT near Vista CA who can meet up with my boyfriend Graham. (IN PERSON NOT ONLINE) His test is this Saturday January 26th. He needs help improving speed and accuracy at the same time. He gets all the answers with unlimited time but when timed he misses some and doesn’t finish all the questions. Please let me know if someone can help. PM me anytime! Thank you.

[Admin note: edited title for clarity.]

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Hi all,

I started studying for the lsat two months ago, although I’m ramping it up now (originally studied about 10-15 hours a week, trying to aim for 20 now) and I’ve mostly been sticking to the Khan Academy material. I’d like to branch out to more paper resources now though, I’m finding that I likely don’t perform as well digitally since I work better on paper, what resources do you recommend? I plan on buying the lsat trainer today since reddit seems to rave about it, and supplement with 7sage content as per suggestions, what else can I do to improve?

I got a 149 diagnostic and I’m aiming for a score between 160-165 at my lsat in late Sepetember, planning on taking the lsat again next summer as well. What are your thoughts on this plan? What should I keep in mind? I know a lot of past comments have been made about keeping your expectations realistic being imperative. Keep in mind I’m in Canada and the 160-165 range is around lsat averages here, i’m not aiming for scholarships.

As well, also interested more in Logical Reasoning content than logic games since I seem to do well in logic games.

Thanks in advance!

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Hi there! I have just started 7sage and am a little confused what my study schedule should look like. I have just completed my first prep test - but should I have watched videos before that/I don't see drills or practices listed on my customized study schedule?

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Dear all,

I scored 168 in the June test, and my goal is to get 172+ in the October test. I am a non-native English speaker and not from the US. I have been studying for this test for two years. I feel I might hit my limit by studying myself and may need help from an expert. There are only three months before the October test, so my time for significant improvement is limited. I am thinking to work with a tutor, but I have no idea which tutor might work best for me since there are so many tutors in 7 Sage. Can you guys kindly recommend one or two tutors to me based on your experience? Thank you very much! I wish you all the best on the LSAT.

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I want to put all the HARD questions into a question bank I made on a word document to make them easier to study. However I cannot copy and paste any of the questions, what should I do?

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I have searched and searched to try and find which tests are included in the Official LSAT Prep Plus, but all I can find is a rough number of how many tests are included. (I have bought a bunch of tests already, so it would be very helpful to know which ones are included before deciding to purchase this.) Can anyone who has purchased the Official LSAT Prep Plus clarify which specific tests are included?

Thanks!

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Proctors: We had three: one in the front, one in the back, and one in the middle of the room. the one in the front was the one giving the instructions at the beginning and between sections. I always had enough time between each section to reset my watch close my eyes and take a few deep breaths.

Facilities: The campus is easy to find, medium size, large lecture rooms, clean bathrooms, air conditioned and many vending machines (in case you need to grab a snack or a bottle of water).

What kind of room: Lecture room. 11-12 rows.

How many in the room: 18 test takers.

Desks: Medium size, for large lecture room. long desk shared by each row with sliding seats.

Left-handed accommodation: Yes, there was a deisgnated row for left handed test takers.

Noise levels: Minimum noise.

Parking: Parking was easy and there was plenty of slots. $9 parking fee credit or debit cards only (you'll pay on the way out).

Time elapsed from arrival to test: 20 mins. once it was 8:30 am they divided us into 4 groups of 15/18 test takers. each group had three proctors. we walked straight to the exam room. they verified our ID's and admission tickets, and assigned each test takers a seat. we signed the admission tickets and were giving the answer sheet and exam within 15 mins.

Irregularities or mishaps: Nope everything went smoothly.

Other comments: The room was kind of cold.

Would you take the test here again? I definitely would. Too Bad it's not available for Dec.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: 9/24/16

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Does anyone have any LSAC forum experiences to share? did anyone get any positive or negative experiences out of it?

& the subsequent drinks social hour at the bar with fellow 7sage LSAT members?

I really appreciate the open bar since I am unsure if I can afford drinks in nyc ($21 for a drink? that is a week+half groceries). The drink the bartender gave me was bitter and made me want to throw up a bit but drank it down like medicine. After wards walking to Times Square I saw the lights and people while some people were imitating me as if I was wobbling (even though I was sure I was not).

I plan to add my experience below within a day or two:

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Hi everyone.

I have a quick question - I am incredibly bad at MBT and SA questions. When I come across them, I sort of freak out and try and figure out the logic in the stimulus and end up getting the question wrong and wasting a bunch of time. Does anyone have any tips at getting better at these? I've been trying to drill them for the last couple of days and I still can't figure out how to get the logic mapping done correctly nor quickly.

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On my first prep test about a week into the LR Core Cirriculum, I scored a 153. I felt as though this was an excellent starting point in regard to my goal of at least 160. I have since completed the CC, and took another prep test today. I scored a 156. Though an improvement nonetheless, it feels as though perhaps I wasn't studying correctly/intensely enough. I was wondering if it is normal to see more of a jump once you start consistently drilling AFTER the CC as opposed to completing the CC alone. Just wondering if I need to do anything before jumping into drilling + prep tests alone in addition to the CC to see more progress.

Thanks !! :)

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I'm an undergraduate student juggling full-time work, full time study while living independently. My current gpa is 3.8. In my initial attempt at the LSAT, I began with a diagnostic score of 135. Despite dedicated self-study since September 2023, my November LSAT score was 143, falling short of my goal in the 158-160 range. This was disheartening, especially considering my average practice scores were in the 150s. As a mature student, I'm eager to avoid waiting another year.

Seeking guidance, I've never enlisted the help of a tutor, relying solely on self-study. I'm now seeking advice on recommended books, potential tutoring options, or any resources that could aid in reaching my goal. Any assistance or suggestions are greatly appreciated.

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