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Hey I'm new to 7sage and the LSAT. I was wondering while going through the syllabus, if you follow the study schedule should you not move forward in the syllabus if you've completed the material for that week and take the time to practice the material covered during that week, or is it better to continue on with the material and do timed sections when you've covered the material in entirety?

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I am having a hard time whether I should follow the schedule. I assume (uh oh) that to be able to strengthen or weaken an answer, you must first be able to see a flaw with the argument. That is why I see it makes more sense to work on the flaw before strengthen/weaken. However, I am sure there is a reason why the syllabus is set up as is but I can't figure out why.

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After being a long time lurker on TLS forums and more of an active member on 7sage, I wanted to try and bring one of the only positive things I could find on TLS to the 7sage forums. Although TLS is typically filled with a bunch egocentric individuals who likely inflate their test scores for "e-peen" status, there is one thing that I really enjoy, their LSAT Xmonth Xyear threads. I feel as if these threads are a major part of the community on their forums and wish we had something similar here. Some of their posts go on for over 300 pages of discussion. This not only allows the students to discuss their progress, but also provides an opportunity (assuming they are honest and willing to release their scores/breakdown) to get some honest feedback on how to improve. So this is my attempt to bring together the 7sage community.

Test date: Saturday December 6, 2014 at 8:30am

Materials:

1) 7sage (Obviously)

2) The LSAT Trainer (http://www.amazon.com/The-LSAT-Trainer-remarkable-self-driven/dp/0989081508/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1412601262&sr=8-1&keywords=lsat+trainer)

3) Cambridge drilling sets (http://www.cambridgelsat.com/problem-sets/)

7sage is by far the best method for self-study. However, there are benefits to be gained from outsider material to supplement & further improve the lessons taught by 7sage.

How to drill:

Logic Games (Credit: taken from Dirigo's TLS post)

Make multiple copies of each game.

Do a game.

Watch the 7 Sage Explanation for that game.

Get a fresh copy of that game and do it again, incorporating what you learned.

Watch the video again if needed.

Move onto the next game and repeat the process.

Do the games you did again the next day and see if you remember how to set them up and solve them. If not, watch the video again.

It's a tedious process, but you're guaranteed to improve by drilling like this. Similar inferences can be made across all games and you are able to make them correctly and quickly the more experience you get.

Logical reasoning

Carve out a problem set (i.e: by type, # of questions, or individual sections)

Set timing according to # of questions/types

Answer all questions under timed conditions

BEFORE checking the answers, BR each question- must be able to provide full explanation for each wrong AC and why correct AC is correct

Check answers

Review any questions that you got wrong or circled as difficult/time consuming

Note: This post is a work in progress, if there is anything I overlooked or you would like me to add feel free to post it in the thread or inbox me.

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Greetings Fellow 7-Sagers...

I know there's recently been a few "should I / shouldn't I" discussion threads on whether or not to cancel a score. Having just taken the LSAT yesterday (in Korea), I now face the same dilemma.

Complicating my choice... today I was just informed by a colleague at work that even though you cancel your score, LSAC still scores your exam and... AND law schools can still see your "cancelled" score.

Is this true ??? WTF ?! Do law schools have access to your cancelled score ? Then what's the point of cancelling ?

Additionally, she tells me that some law schools will ask for a written reason why you cancelled.

Can anyone confirm this ?

Help me Obi-JY, you're our only hope.

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This may sound bizarre, but I have such a hard time choosing the answer choice A. It doesn't matter what section I'm working on--I find myself being much more discriminating against A over the other answer choices. Does anyone else have this issue? Or am I slowly going insane?

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I know the scores won't be released until the 22nd, but I still check the site daily. The other night I dreamed that I got a 170. Then I woke up, drank a glass of water, and dreamed I got a 155. This whole waiting 3 weeks thing is just way too much for a person to handle...

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When looking at the sections that I should focus on I see "Expected LSAT questions 0" for a certain topics. Does this mean I will absolutely not see this style of question in December or is this based off another statistic?

This can range from a certain topic in LR to variations of the IN/OUT games.

Thanks!

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Last comment friday, oct 03 2014

Accessing Content

Hello! I signed up for the maximum content course and I'm wondering how I can gain access to the explanations for all logical reasoning questions... if that exists. I can only find explanations for logic games at this time. Can anyone help navigate the site to locate this information? Thank you!!

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Hi-

Wondering whether the following is worth contacting LSAC about - even if it's just for due diligence.

There was a Rap music performance in the parking lot of my test center. The college usually hosts a relatively quiet trade fair. But that day it was a different event that had live rap performances. The supervisors apologized and said they didn't know this fair would have live music.

I could hear the music even after they shut the windows.

Does this warrant contacting LSAT - even if it's just to make them aware?

What do they do when they get complaints?

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I took the LSAT on September 27th. I do not feel like I did well. My guess score would be somewhere between 140-145. I plan on studying and practicing more PT's, spending more time with blind reviews and taking the test again on December.Is it better for me to keep the score (even though I know i did not do well) or cancel the test score and just focus on doing better in December. I have been told before that Law schools usually look at the higher score when making decision on an application. Is that true?

With only one day left to decide if I want to keep my score, I feel torn inside!

Any advice and comments will be much appreciated!

Thank you

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Ok, so...here is the thing. There were four classrooms of testakers at my school. Three of the four had full size tables to work on. One had tiny arm desks. Guess which one I was in. In addition to that a left handed student got to leave my testing room to move to a room with a desk because no left handed desks were available. I don't think it seriously affected my grade, but by the end of each section I was tense, much tenser than I have been at tables while conducting my PTs.

I really hate to complain, but what do y'all think? Should I report this to the LSAC?

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Hey everyone,

So, I decided that I would write a little (turned out to be long) guide on my LSAT experience. I am doing this for two reasons. First, I am not some genius nor do I even think I did that well, so I think the average person will be able to take at least something away from my experience. Second, 7sage and it's community has been there for me throughout my studies and I believe that giving back and never forgetting where you came from is an important rule to live by. So, that being said, here is what I learned from my LSAT and things that may help you for when you take it.

1) There were two things I certainly didn't want, RC upfront and experimental RC. That is because RC is my worst section, I hate it. Well guess what, that is EXACTLY what I got. I always added LG/LR as a section 5 part PT's and I will always do my added section first. Thus, I don't think I EVER did RC as my first section.

Lesson #1: If you are thinking that there is something you DON'T want, it's best to prepare for it.

2) My experience for LG can be found in this post:

http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/1427/i-just-had-my-worst-pt-which-is-the-actual-lsat-t_t

Lesson #2: Mastery for LG goes beyond getting a perfect score. Once you begin to improve in LG to a point where you can get perfect, it's time to move on and begin working on getting perfect WHILE moving faster. Easier games MUST be done faster in order to have adequate time for the harder/time sucking games.

3) This lesson goes mostly to LR but is applicable to RC as well. I was pretty decent at LR going in, I would average anywhere between -4/-6, with a few cases of -7/-8 on harder LR sections. I definitely wish I would have done more TIMED sections of LR. Being able to finish in 35 minutes was always a stretch for me, as well as I always had difficulty skipping questions. It wasn't until the end of studies where I started making a conscious effort to skip questions. So for LR I gained 3 lessons.

Lesson #3: If you really want to feel good about yourself and get a decent score. You need to get comfortable finishing LR in ~33 minutes (more on this later).

I found that while I was writing the test for LR, I didn't have a clue what was going on. My mind was racing so I was focusing on controlling that, I was keeping track of time, making a conscious effort not to get bogged down, focusing on just keep moving, convincing myself not to worry about that last question I just did. Point is, you have a lot on your mind. So, the lesson from this is to get to a point in LR where your like Nike and "just do it". I say this because if the process in LR is not to the point where it's automatic you are likely going to want to blow your brains out from anxiety. I am not saying this to scare you, nor am I saying this to sound like some guru. Words can't describe the feeling, I am just telling you from my takeaway I actually have NO IDEA how well it went (could've bombed it for all I know). It was a weird feeling and all I know is that if my process was similar to what it was while I was practicing then I should be okay.

Lesson #4: Get the point in LR where you "just do it", like the whole section is something your capable of doing in your sleep. You have a lot more on your mind to manage so it becomes fogged up, so you need to place yourself in autopilot.

One thing I noticed on practice test is I didn't want to take risks. I cared so much about my scores and how well I was doing, that I overlooked the amazing experience that can be gained from taking risks. Practice failure it's only a PT. What do I mean by this? I mean see which questions you should skip and develop a strategy on where the best area is to fail. By this I mean which question types are best for you to skip and around what question #. For me, I remember during a couple PT's I straight up skipped some questions and when I went back for BR I was like "damn, I wish I wouldn't have skipped that one, I could've easily gotten it". But there were some cases where I skipped and when I BR'd I was like THANK GOD I didn't waste my time on that one.

Lesson #5: Just keep moving, don't hesitate, don't contemplate. Do the questions, eliminate the wrong answers, choose the right. Be strategic and PRACTICE figuring out which questions are best to skip.

So that's it for me. The rest of my learning experience is no different from everything you've already heard. Do PT's, add a section, do a couple at the time of the test. USE THE PROCTOR app. Anyways, good luck to everyone, I hope that at least one person can take at least something away from this.

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Last comment thursday, oct 02 2014

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Okay.

I have finished 100% of the material (yay).

I was wondering what other people have done at this point? I've decided to wait until Monday morning to write my first practice LSAT test, and take tonight, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday to review all of the Practice Tests in all of the sections, and work through some of the harder Logic Games that I didn't completely understand.

Did anyone do anything similar? I want a refresher before I dive right into the practice. :)

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7Sage Books

I have a question. I am new to 7Sage. I am used to books. I am used to crossing off wrong answers. I am used to taking notes as I read. There are no traditional books for 7Sage. Does anyone on here find it easier or harder or anything? I am thinking of just printing off as much of the material as possible. Any feedback on the lack of books would be appreciated. Thank you.

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Last comment thursday, oct 02 2014

Saturday observer test?

I'm not a Saturday observer but I do play college basketball and we have a game the day of the dec lsat. What are the rules to not take a Saturday test? Could I possibly switch it to the Monday? I don't practice that religion but the only way I can take the lsat this winter is if it isn't on a Saturday. Wondering if you guys have any advice or experience with a situation like this.

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So.. What now?

So I took the June LSAT, by going through 7sage pretty quickly and the LSAT Bibles I got a 153.I took the test last weekend and am going to cancel my score due to proctor problems but was scoring around high 150's during PTs right before. I skimmed through 7 sage and mostly did practice tests and reviewed wrong answers.

So now I am registered for the December LSAT and kinda stuck on how to study for it. Should I go through 7sage again or the Bibles again or just really focus on my weak area of RC? I was planning on started 7sage from scratch and going through the whole thing but not sure if that is truly the best use of my time. Im usually missing -7 or -8 in each LG,and each of the LR and missing about -11 to -13 on RC.

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Can someone explain "blocking" the alternative hypothesis? I am doing the strengthen causation questions, I got them right and went back to make sure I understood why, even though I got them right, I wasnt 100% sure why. I am also not totally understanding what you mean by "blocking. " Please elaborate, clarify so I can understand. Thank you

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Last comment wednesday, oct 01 2014

February 2014 LSAT

I took the Feb 2014 exam. I am studying again for the LSAT. I am wondering if you have a teaching of a logic game that was similar to the one that threw us for a loop on the Feb 2014 exam....I know you dont have access to that, but it was something about a round table, maybe how people were positioned.....I definitely do not remember the details, I just recall it was something like that. Hoping there is now a lesson for questions that like.

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Ok, starting my prep

I am going to get 7sage basic and study as much as possible before the December Lsat. I took a diagnostic and got 164 but my goal is 170+. I also have a Kaplan LSAT 2014 book. Questions are:

Is this enough time to improve to my target score?

Should I even bother to read my Kaplan book in addition to using 7sage?

Should I add anything to my plan at all (other books or study programs) or just hit the 7sage course hard when ever I have free time?

I work full time and am taking 12 credit hours of college. I know it will be hard to fit it all in, but law school won't be much better. I figure it's good training. I can study for the LSAT about 6 or 7 hours a week if I give up almost all social life for the next three months.

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