Proctors: Very unprofessional. My proctor kept making jokes leading up to the exam and asking us personal questions. If I am about to take the most important test of my life, please take it seriously. She just made a lot of unnecessary side comments while going through the directions in the beginning, which was extremely annoying and distracting.

Facilities: I took it in the basement classrooms in Frelinghuysen. It's a basement for a reason. It was absolutely freezing during the exam. I kept my jacket on the whole time, which was really uncomfortable, but I had no choice because it was either I kept my jacket on or I froze to death.

What kind of room: Classroom.

How many in the room: Around 40.

Desks: Tiny. They are the desks connected to the chair. Barely any room to keep your booklet open and your answer sheet next to it.

Left-handed accommodation: I am not sure if there were left-handed desks in the room.

Noise levels: Not too bad. The room was small, especially for the amount of people in it, so it felt really crowded and stuff in there and you could hear everyone's little movements.

Parking: I got dropped off. The parking lot next to the Student Activities Center was full when I got there. Most people came from their dorms though.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: A lot of time. It was an extremely inefficient use of our time. The line was so long because no one knew that there was a second line if you went down the stairs. There were two different check-in points but they didn't make that clear whatsoever.

Irregularities or mishaps: When I got there, the line was out the door, so we were standing in the rain for 30 minutes before getting inside. I waited in the second line that was down the stairs because I thought it was another check-in. That line took another 30-40 minutes, and when I got to the front, she told me that that desk/line was the same thing as the one upstairs. So I wasted that time waiting in line instead of getting in the right mindset for the exam. By the time I got in the classroom, we waited another 30 minutes for the last people in those lines to get checked in. Overall, it was a complete mess and the worst way to begin test day.

Other comments: My proctor let someone go to the bathroom after they entered the test room (which you're not supposed to do), and then 6 more people said, "Can I go to?" so we waited another 20 minutes for all of those students to go to the bathroom when you're not even supposed to leave the classroom as soon as you get in unless you go to the bathroom during the exam. Just shows how unprofessional the proctors were and serious they were taking the exam.

Would you take the test here again? Not at all. Please, sign up to take it at another school. It's not worth your time and money to take it at a place that will waste your time and money.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: October 2015

Hi,

I just took my LSAT writing and kinda bombed. I was feeling awful going into it but decided to do it anyway. I've always been an okay writer and I wasn't too stressed about it. However, I noticed after submitting it that I had failed to delete my brief description of the decision to be made and the criteria -- they were just sitting above the rest of the essay with a line in between -- and I made a couple of noticeable typos.

Is there anyway to redo it without redoing the entire test? Or to cancel only the writing section?

If it's at all relevant, I started a new medication today (my first dose was about 4 hours before the test) and I think it's definitely possible that it's what was making me feel wonky. I feel a little pathetic using that as an excuse but I honestly believe that it may be relevant, I don't know.

For those who have been scoring in the 170s on this years LSATs, would you mind sharing how many questions you missed (not sure if this info is available) and what you're score was? 7sage has only a few preptests that use the modern test scoring with 3 scored sections and 1 experimental, and I'm not sure how reliable the "simulate modern" feature is.

For reference, I just got -6 on the entire test for PT83, and some alleged raw score converters online from LSAC place this as a 176. Just curious as to the real numbers from you test takers, I'm taking my test here in two weeks!

I want to put all the HARD questions into a question bank I made on a word document to make them easier to study. However I cannot copy and paste any of the questions, what should I do?

I suppose this would take a little bit of insider information, but I have received several fee waivers recently from good schools and their site states they won't send fee waivers until they have your lsat? Probably coincidence but would be interested if anybody had any insight.

If you have the admissions program for 7sage then you are going to recognize the name Anna Ivey, or at least the book Ivey's guide to Law School Admissions. I was curious as to how a real admissions officer took every part of our applications into consideration and if they could, what honest advice they would have. Anna Ivey is a former admissions officer for University of Chicago Law School (i believe), and when she left to create her own admissions company, she wrote a books giving advice students want when talking to councilors. She talked about everything from what to say about low gpas, and some nuances as far as supplemental statements go, what types of personal statements tend to catch admission officers eyes and talked about the nuances (like making sure you spell resume properly aka résumé). Those things she said really mattered when they make decisions between certain candidates and would matter to schools who don't do interviews like U of Chicago do to get to know the applicants. I HIGHLY suggest reading it because I found it to be incredibly helpful and made me look back over my own résumé (one my career advisor said was good) because it had mistakes in terms of set up and what I didn't use it to do which was have a 'personal section'. I didn't by the higher costing admissions programs that 7sage has because me and my family don't have a great deal of money.

So if you're looking for advice that is low costing I definitely suggest getting her ebook for kindle (you can get the app, it's free for some and my cost a bit for others) but it's totally worth it. I read through the entire thing in about a day and half, if that. I highlighted and made notes too because it was that helpful.

Any general advice on going from 165-168 to 170?

Seems like this is a common plateau for students.

Hi all,

I started studying for the lsat two months ago, although I’m ramping it up now (originally studied about 10-15 hours a week, trying to aim for 20 now) and I’ve mostly been sticking to the Khan Academy material. I’d like to branch out to more paper resources now though, I’m finding that I likely don’t perform as well digitally since I work better on paper, what resources do you recommend? I plan on buying the lsat trainer today since reddit seems to rave about it, and supplement with 7sage content as per suggestions, what else can I do to improve?

I got a 149 diagnostic and I’m aiming for a score between 160-165 at my lsat in late Sepetember, planning on taking the lsat again next summer as well. What are your thoughts on this plan? What should I keep in mind? I know a lot of past comments have been made about keeping your expectations realistic being imperative. Keep in mind I’m in Canada and the 160-165 range is around lsat averages here, i’m not aiming for scholarships.

As well, also interested more in Logical Reasoning content than logic games since I seem to do well in logic games.

Thanks in advance!

Hello! For those of you who have scheduled your specific LSAT date and time before, could you describe how that works? I haven't received further information and unsure about the process. Where do you exactly go to schedule? Thank you in advance!

Hi all,

Any advice on how to incorporate the live classes into the CC? I just purchased the Monthy+Live plan and am planning to take the lsat in about 9 months. I am wondering at what point I should start seriously utilizing the live classes. I noticed the live classes include questions from prep tests beyond the 30 old ones saved for drilling in the CC. That made me weary of joining any of them before I have taken a fair share of the newer practice tests.

Thanks in advance for any help!

When looking at the sections that I should focus on I see "Expected LSAT questions 0" for a certain topics. Does this mean I will absolutely not see this style of question in December or is this based off another statistic?

This can range from a certain topic in LR to variations of the IN/OUT games.

Thanks!

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Hi guys,

I am planning on taking the Lsat for the third time. My first two times I got a 146 and 148. The problem with my studying was that I did not take the time to prepare for the exam properly and did not have a good studying schedule. This time around, I plan on studying for the test 4-5 months in advance to ensure that I will get the desired grade which is 160+. Currently I am thinking of studying each section separately for approximately a month, and then have a month or two of only doing PTs and focusing on my weak section which probably will be reading comprehension. Each day therefore, would be separated into 2 study sessions. One in the morning and another at night. If I am working on games for example, I would do 2 timed sections, go over all the questions (with emphasis on the ones I got wrong), take a break and then do another 2 timed games sections.

If you guys could share what worked for you while studying or what you think I might be able to do better with my scheduling please let me know.

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So....just went online to submit the final copy of my personal statement and it looks like the site has crashed. I've tried it from multiple different computers, asked my friends to try from home but they're also getting the same internal error message. Called admissions, no answer. Anyone else experiencing this?

I have an accomodation for reading/thinking aloud on the LSAT. Are there any rules that anyone knows of for that? For example, I typically have a constant song running through my head when I'm focusing. I'm usually trying to talk over it honestly. However, sometime on LG, for example, while I'm redrawing set ups, I hum and sing those songs to try to get it out of my head. I can do everything without humming, but I'd like to know if I'd get in trouble for doing that. I really just don't want the proctor to interrupt my train of thought to tell me to stop humming or singing to myself. I'd rather focus on not doing it than having something throw me off day of. I know it's kinda a strange question!

Thanks!

Hi,

can someone explain why certain lessons are marked on 7sage as optional? I just started the core curriculum. I saw that the first 'optional' one was a cute story/ anecdote and skipping would be fine as it had no bearing on understanding content, but now I'm at the second optional lesson entitled ' For, since, because' and IM confused why it says optional. Does it cover it alter? is it not necessary for LSAT? I'm going to listen to it, but its throwing me off and if someone can please explain why its marked that way it would help.

Thanks!

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Here's my review for Western Washington University. I actually live in BC but this test centre is the closest to my house and it's really good (based on my limited experience) and I'm not really sure I want the word to get out before the next time I have to write haha.

Proctors: There were two women, super friendly and the one at the front was really encouraging, kept telling us how well prepared she thought we looked during the break and after the test was over. They also let us keep water on the desk and reminded people that knuckle cracking was distracting in between sections. Proctors were quiet and I never heard them chatting or saw them moving. One stayed up at the back and the other sat at the front.

Facilities: Restrooms were down the hall, 1 minute walk for slowpokes, 25 seconds for everyone else. I don't know what they looked like because I don't use public washrooms....assuming they were standard, had toilets and sinks...

What kind of room: Small lecture hall (aka higher at the back, lower at the front) with long tables for desks and chairs that were attached by a swivel. Chairs kind of sucked but what can you really expect at a school?

How many in the room: 13 (15 were scheduled but 2 were no-shows). They mentioned to us before the test that they decided to split us into 3 separate groups based on last names so I'm assuming every room had about the same. Plenty of room to stretch out and line up all 15 of your backup pencils. The room was far from being full and I there there was a 3 seat gap in between each person.

Desks: Long tables attached to the floor so no movement. No wiggling.

Left-handed accommodation: No one was left handed in my room but since there were so few of us I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem to move if you needed to.

Noise levels: Super quiet. Literally heard nothing the entire time I was writing. They also had signs posted on the room doors as well as the building entrance/exit doors asking for quiet as testing was in progress.

Parking: Pay parking from a meter. Not difficult to figure out. Walked probably 10 feet from my car to the building. When I did a trial drive earlier in the summer they had a visitor centre that was opened where they told me they would issue visitor parking passes for free but unfortunately the centre was closed last Saturday.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: They were really efficient in getting us all lined up and in the correct rooms. We started the first section at 9:05 but only because one test taker was either super nervous and didn't understand how to complete any of his bubble sheet or didn't pay attention to the instructions and just sat there silently not asking questions. A few people also didn't pay attention when they told us to insert the writing sample form into the last page of the test booklet.

Irregularities or mishaps: One test taker was clearly bubbling in answers after the 5th section ended. The proctor at the rear immediately came down and told him he wasn't permitted to be doing that. The front proctor confirmed but still let him continue after he told them he only bubbled in one hole. I (and probably everybody else except the proctor at the front who was almost right in front of him) saw him the entire time as he as the only person noticeably moving after time had been called. He must have bubbled in at least 10 by the time she told him to stop. He claimed he didn't know he wasn't permitted but we got constant reminders about it so I doubt it.

Other comments: I think that this test centre is underused since it's in such a random middle of nowhere location and I didn't see any other reviews on it prior to writing. The proctor also asked us if we wanted a 10 or 15 minute break before the break started. I wanted 10 but no one else did or maybe a bunch of us did but didn't put our hands up...lemmings.

Would you take the test here again? 100% (sadly that will soon be a reality come grey day...)

Date[s] of Exam[s]: Sep 24, 2016

Hey guys,

Has anyone experienced a score reduction when taking the digital LSAT compared to their physical LSAT scores? I am quite nervous about taking the digital LSAT because I am a person who loves to mark up the paper when doing RC and LR. I find that it keeps me more focused.

I have taken a couple individual RC and LR sections digitally and have found that my scores in those sections have dropped a couple points due to (I think) the inability to physically circle/draw arrows/etc. on the passage or stimulus. Any tips on transferring physical LSAT habits to the digital LSAT?

Thanks!

Hey all -

Currently prepping for the Oct 22 LSAT. I took the April 22 LSAT, had some significant life events in may/june, and resumed study in July

I had taken 5 timed PTs and an untimed diagnostic, and had worked my way up from 152 to a 168, 170, and 168 in my last tests. In April I was back down at a 162. I didn't feel like I was panicking more than I did in the PTs where I did better. Is a 6 or 8 point relative drop normal from practice to test day? Are there any things I can work on before October to even up the performance?

PTs are showing marginal but real progress from there, but I'm wondering how much I should discount that. I will say that I'm feeling more confident (particularly on LGs), but that's hard to measure.

Hey everyone-

I've been using start class rankings for sometime but I'm getting an error today and info the site no longer has the law school info.

Was anyone else using this and any ideas what happened?

http://law-schools.startclass.com

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I had a well known law professor I worked with offer to write me a letter to my dream school... I have already submitted my app and used the max number of references. Is him writing a letter a good or a bad idea? I haven't had a response from the school yet. He's also taught at the school before. I know I should have asked him to be one of my LOR's, but I honestly didn't think he would.